Draft Talk
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I don't get the idea of not trading out of fear of not using the picks well. If you think they're not going to pick the right guy, surely you prefer them to have more attempts at it?
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That's been my bitch Chris, this FO seems to value quantity over quality.
This is how you accumulate a roster full of mediocre talent.
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That's been my bitch Chris, this FO seems to value quantity over quality.
This is how you accumulate a roster full of mediocre talent.
That's been my bitch Chris, this FO seems to value quantity over quality.
This is how you accumulate a roster full of mediocre talent.
And that I can get on board with. I don't particularly favour trading down, maybe a few spots if we can pick up an extra first and at least an extra second, if not another first (like rams/rg3). But, people complain that they don't trust the FO to make the right picks, then are vehemently against them having more attempts at it, which is counter intuitive.
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I'm on board trading down on our second pick. Around 15. Secure two top 25 players and an additional 2nd rounder.
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I'm on board trading down on our second pick. Around 15. Secure two top 25 players and an additional 2nd rounder.
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A trade always depends on the offer exceeding the value of the prospects. IMO we got great value trading the #2 to PHI last year... so so value trading the PHI #8 to TN for the #15.
There are almost always a small number of "special" players everyone wants to some degree who turns out to be the shiznit. Once they do then we hear endlessly on how we passed on "their guy"... on how much smarter they are than our FO... all the while never mentioning the 11 other fucksticks they've wanted over the years that bombed.
It gets old...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I kinda want to trade down from #1 overall at this point. Seriously drafting Garrett or Allen and putting him into a ray horton system is such a waste of talent.
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I kinda want to trade down from #1 overall at this point. Seriously drafting Garrett or Allen and putting him into a ray horton system is such a waste of talent.
I kinda want to trade down from #1 overall at this point. Seriously drafting Garrett or Allen and putting him into a ray horton system is such a waste of talent.
so lets just keep trading down and drafting mediocre (at best) talent so when the next DC comes in he's got squat to work with. I mean why break the mold right? Why start drafting talent now? seems so impulsive to me. We've got such a good thing going right now where we can't tell whether it's the players that outright suck or the coaches suck or some combo thereof.
Srsly lets just start drafting talent that gets shit done on the field and when other teams react to that talent we can see if our coaches put said talent in the positions to win games for this team. If we draft Garett and Horton immediately stands him up....and we all see how well Garett does those snaps with his hands down....than we can yell and scream for Horton to be let go if he doesn't fit the defense to the talent on the team. If they keep shoehorning players built for one scheme into another, than we know it's the coaches 100%.
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horton has had two seasons with the browns and they both sucked your asking for a 3rd season. and he did that with ogbah at the beginning of the season and garrett is too small to play de in a 3-4
trade down secure some future picks seems like a good idea for the browns 1 player wont fix our issues..1 coach maybe but we need help at a lot of spots QB being the biggest need simply because we dont have a franchise guy on roster hell we should probably draft two QBs
maybe we can trade down and take Mitch and Fournette in the 1st
Your score is: 10648 (GRADE: A)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 1 Pick 11 (CAR): Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Charles Harris, DE, Missouri (B+)
Round 2 Pick 7 (S.D.): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 11 (CAR): Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A)
Round 2 Pick 17: Desmond King, CB, Iowa (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Curtis Samuel, WR, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (B+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ejuan Price, OLB, Pittsburgh (B-)
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (S.D.)
2019 Round 1 Pick
Had 2 Trades my 1,1 for SD 1st 2018 1,7 2017 and 2,7 2017
my 1,7 for carolinas 1,11 and 2,11 -
Somebody tell this guy we play more 4 man front than his traditional belief on what a 34 is.
I'm tired of explaining at this point.
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you mean nickel tia...thats the word your looking for... Nickel
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Nickel is a 4-2 front... I am very sure tia knows the difference.
Since Collins' arrival we have played more 3-4, but prior to that our base look definitely favored the 4-3.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Nickel is a 4-2 front... I am very sure tia knows the difference.
Since Collins' arrival we have played more 3-4, but prior to that our base look definitely favored the 4-3.
Nickel is a 4-2 front... I am very sure tia knows the difference.
Since Collins' arrival we have played more 3-4, but prior to that our base look definitely favored the 4-3.
When we haven't subbed out the bigs it's been 33 with Collins on the weakside in odd fronts.
Needless to say, aside from Danny, we have no player in which you say 'this is what we're committing to'. Even then, that type of mentality is only dominant on the offensive side of the ball.
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you mean nickel tia...thats the word your looking for... Nickel
you mean nickel tia...thats the word your looking for... Nickel
No, actually it isn't. Nickel is your DB grouping. You can run 4 man fronts from 43 under/ over and 44 looks without being nickel.
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we play nickel in over 40% of our defensive snaps with 4 down lineman. I can count on both hands the times we have played 4-4 or 4-6. When we are in nickel we rarely send more than 4 and when we do its an S. Most of our other snaps have been 3 down lineman with one rushing LB
I figure we are going to lose Pryor,Crowell in FA atleast. With Pryor he can be replaced by Devalve because of the similar measurables and Seth did Play WR in College. Regardless its he can be replaced pretty easily, i mean really how hard is it to find someone that can push off and is tall. Devalve makes up for the 2 in height disadvantage with the 10in jump advantage. -
I feel like there is a fundamental lack of understanding the term "nickel" happening in this very moment.
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Let it be on record that I am in favor of the 25 defense.
The more linebackers the better. Who needs those big fat fatty fats bumping titties.
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Suggesting devalve over Pryor?
At this point you're just fuckin trolling me.
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Devalve will be on our team next year and Pryor wont thats the point i'm making. He's no big loss Jordan payton any big bodied receiver would work
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Somone just read Brian Hartline's take?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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