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  • Can we close this thread and have everyone just STFU about Carson Wentz. He is not a Cleveland Brown....so fuck him two ways to Sunday.

  • Can we close this thread and have everyone just STFU about Carson Wentz. He is not a Cleveland Brown....so fuck him two ways to Sunday.

    @the-gipper said:

    Can we close this thread and have everyone just STFU about Carson Wentz. He is not a Cleveland Brown....so fuck him two ways to Sunday.

    Nope. Point is- he COULD have been a Cleveland Brown, and considering this thread is already 7 pages long , I'd say there's considerable interest whether he's going to succeed or flop. 🙂 In fact, the longevity of the current Front Office will largely depend on how well Carson does- and the success or failure of the picks we obtained in the trade.

    It will die down in due time. It's nice to remember Tom Brady COULD have been a Brown, not Spergon Wynn.

  • I can imagine with our oline pass protection that Wentz would not have as good

    a start.

    as much as I wanted Wentz, I have to admit- they fixed the wr problem, the lb problem,

    the defensive line rotation....

    next year, it would have been Wentz. too bad. The Browns needed more than one player

    this past draft to start. Several - to change the culture, the depth, the overall age of the team...

    seems like they did.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Can we close this thread and have everyone just STFU about Carson Wentz. He is not a Cleveland Brown....so fuck him two ways to Sunday.

    Nope. Point is- he COULD have been a Cleveland Brown, and considering this thread is already 7 pages long , I'd say there's considerable interest whether he's going to succeed or flop. 🙂 In fact, the longevity of the current Front Office will largely depend on how well Carson does- and the success or failure of the picks we obtained in the trade.

    It will die down in due time. It's nice to remember Tom Brady COULD have been a Brown, not Spergon Wynn.

    @hoorta said:

    Nope. Point is- he COULD have been a Cleveland Brown,

    Yea, but he ain't.....tons and tons and tons of other players coulda been Brown.

    and considering this thread is already 7 pages long , I'd say there's considerable interest whether he's going to succeed or flop. 🙂 In fact, the longevity of the current Front Office will largely depend on how well Carson does- and the success or failure of the picks we obtained in the trade.

    I don't believe that a minute. the success or failure will depend on how well the picks we actually take do(in the Philly trade or otherwise)....or the FAs that we acquire do...not on how well Wentz performs...per se.

    It will die down in due time. It's nice to remember Tom Brady COULD have been a Brown, not Spergon Wynn.

    And we could go down that rabbit hole ad nauseum: Brady, BR, Rodgers, Wilson, Carr, Prescott, The Twat, Dalton, Tannehill, Flacco, etc. etc. etc. etc. And that is just QBs. Don't talk about Khalil Mack, or Sammy Watkins,

    We coulda had Bart Starr at #199....but he went #200 to the Packers.(While the Browns took, like Bobby Garrett...not sure that was same year....Johnny Unitas....9th round pick of the Steelers....who cut him.. Joe Montana, Third round pick.

    Like I said....a rabbit hole.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    You do realize Pryor was cut by Farmer...right?

    yeah he was cut by farmer. which means there was no development then. brought back now. so how did the browns develop t. pryor sr.?

    dude has raw talent and played with it last week. let's not act that hue touched him with some almighty coaching 'staff of the all holy' and overnite he found his game.

    @miktoxic said:

    yeah he was cut by farmer. which means there was no development then. brought back now. so how did the browns develop t. pryor sr.?

    dude has raw talent and played with it last week. let's not act that hue touched him with some almighty coaching 'staff of the all holy' and overnite he found his game.

    This is some of the worst reasoning I've ever seen.

  • @miktoxic said:

    yeah he was cut by farmer. which means there was no development then. brought back now. so how did the browns develop t. pryor sr.?

    dude has raw talent and played with it last week. let's not act that hue touched him with some almighty coaching 'staff of the all holy' and overnite he found his game.

    This is some of the worst reasoning I've ever seen.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    This is some of the worst reasoning I've ever seen.

    Especially when you consider that Hue Jackson was the man that recommended to him to end the QB career and try and make it the NFL as a WR.

    Then when Hue gets here he goes from fringe player who couldn't get past Dwayne Bowe for playing time to starter, to emerging star.

    I'd say Hue has everything to do with it, and you can tell Pryor would run through a wall for him. Or "die on the field" for this organization, as he put it.

    But I guess we can't have feel-good stories, Pryor is just a super athlete and Hue is an idiot.

    Z

  • Can we close this thread and have everyone just STFU about Carson Wentz. He is not a Cleveland Brown....so fuck him two ways to Sunday.

    @the-gipper said:

    Can we close this thread and have everyone just STFU about Carson Wentz. He is not a Cleveland Brown....so fuck him two ways to Sunday.

    Not that easy.

    We turned Jesus away when the 4 horsemen are rooming in Cleveland....

  • Well so far so good on him. But he will be facing a lot more obstacles to come.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Great Post jrb. I quit watching The Carson Wentz TV Network,that the media created every week. The marching band jumpers (from Goff) won't stop regardless the names we draft from Philly & Tenn. trade & still got a talent in C.Coleman. A team that you could count talent on, one hand, needed to do exactly what they have done. We our finally watching a coaching staff that can acknowledge a talent in T.Pryor. Who caught 1 pass last season & the others are accepting getting coached up...Don't believe for a minute that Sashi & Depo are not listening to the football people on the sidelines. Examples Whitner,Hartline, Gilbert, Mingo & Kruger with additions like D. Davis, J.Taylor,Pena,Calhoun & Colquitt..only Wentz guess we may have missed on was overdrafting WR's not knowing if Gordon was a team bonus. Than now knowing Pryor is the real deal now at WR with Coleman..Go Browns!!

    It does cause some gnashing of teeth on my part seeing the media gush all over the Carson Show on a weekly basis. If he turns into another Brady or Rodgers level talent, Cleveland is never going to hear the end of it. The only thing I can hope is we haven't gotten to the final page of the book on that trade. If Coleman turns onto another Steve Smith (or better). Kessler pans out (we'll know by the end of the year) and if not, we draft Kiser or Watson with that high pick and they turn out equal or better than Wentz- we at least broke even, maybe even a little ahead. Bad news is if Wentz continues to play well the first round pick we have from the Eagles isn't going to be nearly as good as we anticipated.

    @hoorta said:

    The only thing I can hope is we haven't gotten to the final page of the book on that trade. Kessler pans out (we'll know by the end of the year) and if not, we

    I would take that Philly pick & give it to Pats (right now) for the rights to Jimmy G. even while his arm is still in a sling 😮. So tired of the draft & develop QB bla,bla crap in Cleveland. Than go to the A&M moonshine stile one last time for M.Garrett,with our #1 pick..

  • Dude i'm sick of all the wentz talk....

    should be a pryor thread thats bigger.

  • Dude i'm sick of all the wentz talk....

    should be a pryor thread thats bigger.

    @stillmotion said:

    Dude i'm sick of all the wentz talk....

    should be a pryor thread thats bigger.

    Get prepared to hear it for the next 12 years, champ

  • yep. i picture myself at our club in 12 years and watching a wentz highlight of his 4th td of the first half against the browns (who will be picking in the top 5 again in 2029) and that big friggin pain travels down the arm. as i drop onto the ground with a dead man's clutch on my drink everyone can hear me say "cody.................fucking.............kessler!!" as the dark shadow demons from the movie 'ghost' come creepin at me.

    cody fuckin kessler.

  • yep. i picture myself at our club in 12 years and watching a wentz highlight of his 4th td of the first half against the browns (who will be picking in the top 5 again in 2029) and that big friggin pain travels down the arm. as i drop onto the ground with a dead man's clutch on my drink everyone can hear me say "cody.................fucking.............kessler!!" as the dark shadow demons from the movie 'ghost' come creepin at me.

    cody fuckin kessler.

    @miktoxic said:

    yep. i picture myself at our club in 12 years and watching a wentz highlight of his 4th td of the first half against the browns (who will be picking in the top 5 again in 2029) and that big friggin pain travels down the arm. as i drop onto the ground with a dead man's clutch on my drink everyone can hear me say "cody.................fucking.............kessler!!" as the dark shadow demons from the movie 'ghost' come creepin at me.

    cody fuckin kessler.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

    Actually mik I have finally figured this all out. I died two years ago and went to hell to cheer on Johnny Football. What no one here seems to know is that they are all dead and living in Browns hell. How else can you explain all the shit that just happens year after year after fucking year. Yep-I died and joined you all in Browns hell. 😆

  • @miktoxic said:

    yep. i picture myself at our club in 12 years and watching a wentz highlight of his 4th td of the first half against the browns (who will be picking in the top 5 again in 2029) and that big friggin pain travels down the arm. as i drop onto the ground with a dead man's clutch on my drink everyone can hear me say "cody.................fucking.............kessler!!" as the dark shadow demons from the movie 'ghost' come creepin at me.

    cody fuckin kessler.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

    Actually mik I have finally figured this all out. I died two years ago and went to hell to cheer on Johnny Football. What no one here seems to know is that they are all dead and living in Browns hell. How else can you explain all the shit that just happens year after year after fucking year. Yep-I died and joined you all in Browns hell. 😆

    @texasag1969 said:

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

    Actually mik I have finally figured this all out. I died two years ago and went to hell to cheer on Johnny Football. What no one here seems to know is that they are all dead and living in Browns hell. How else can you explain all the shit that just happens year after year after fucking year. Yep-I died and joined you all in Browns hell. 😆

    Old Johnny is back in college, and living with his former mentor, Mike Pettine. According to USA Today, Pettine said Johnny was "on the right track" and wasn't going to think about wearing any disguises anytime soon again.

  • I'm still trying to figure out all the national BS about Browns not drafting Wentz.

    Seems like 99% of the people are forgetting that the Browns traded the 2nd pick in the draft away before the draft even started...

    All it was, was a chance to draft Wentz if he was there. How about the price to maybe draft him seemed like a gamble so they took the sure thing with an extra first?

    It's not like the Browns were on the clock and traded the pick away.

    How about the Browns stick, the Rams take Wentz and the Browns draft the kid that can't even crack the 2nd string for the flippin Rams.

    The way I see it, If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

  • Well does it really matter when the pick was trade? The real travesty is this org's futile attempts to draft a franchise qb. And now, because of so many fuckups, new FO personnel are scared to stick their necks out there and make that pick, rather trade down and be safe in their minds. So once again, if wentz continues to look good and progress to a pro-bowler franchise qb that we desperately need, well we should all be happy we got a midget speedster wr (that we already had in t. Benjamin but got rid of) with a broken hand first week into his rookie season.

    YIPPEE!!

  • @hoorta said:

    The only thing I can hope is we haven't gotten to the final page of the book on that trade. Kessler pans out (we'll know by the end of the year) and if not, we

    I would take that Philly pick & give it to Pats (right now) for the rights to Jimmy G. even while his arm is still in a sling 😮. So tired of the draft & develop QB bla,bla crap in Cleveland. Than go to the A&M moonshine stile one last time for M.Garrett,with our #1 pick..

    @gumby73 said:

    I would take that Philly pick & give it to Pats (right now) for the rights to Jimmy G. even while his arm is still in a sling 😮. So tired of the draft & develop QB bla,bla crap in Cleveland. Than go to the A&M moonshine stile one last time for M.Garrett,with our #1 pick..

    Ah the track record of quarterbacks Bill B has traded away isn't particularly good. Like Matt Cassell and Ryan Mallett. The Patriots make that trade in a heartbeat.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Get prepared to hear it for the next 12 years, champ

    If Wentz continues to play at this level, guaranteed.

  • Fuck a bunch of Carson Wentz.

    Shouldn't we still be mad that the Browns drafted Kurt Burris with the #13 pick overall in the 1955 draft....Burris a guy who never played a down in the NFL.....instead of taking Johnny Unitas who was picked in the 9th round?

    See how absurd it all is to discuss Wentz? Browns maybe could have had 3-4 more titles if they had taken JU.

  • Fuck a bunch of Carson Wentz.

    Shouldn't we still be mad that the Browns drafted Kurt Burris with the #13 pick overall in the 1955 draft....Burris a guy who never played a down in the NFL.....instead of taking Johnny Unitas who was picked in the 9th round?

    See how absurd it all is to discuss Wentz? Browns maybe could have had 3-4 more titles if they had taken JU.

    @the-gipper said:

    Fuck a bunch of Carson Wentz.

    Shouldn't we still be mad that the Browns drafted Kurt Burris with the #13 pick overall in the 1955 draft....Burris a guy who never played a down in the NFL.....instead of taking Johnny Unitas who was picked in the 9th round?

    See how absurd it all is to discuss Wentz? Browns maybe could have had 3-4 more titles if they had taken JU.

    What is absurd is your analogy.

    Fans want to experience the thrill of having a winning team in their lifetimes rather than having to read about it in history books... the bitching about not selecting JU stays with the browns fans of 1955.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Fuck a bunch of Carson Wentz.

    Shouldn't we still be mad that the Browns drafted Kurt Burris with the #13 pick overall in the 1955 draft....Burris a guy who never played a down in the NFL.....instead of taking Johnny Unitas who was picked in the 9th round?

    See how absurd it all is to discuss Wentz? Browns maybe could have had 3-4 more titles if they had taken JU.

    What is absurd is your analogy.

    Fans want to experience the thrill of having a winning team in their lifetimes rather than having to read about it in history books... the bitching about not selecting JU stays with the browns fans of 1955.

    @stinkhole said:

    What is absurd is your analogy.

    Fans want to experience the thrill of having a winning team in their lifetimes rather than having to read about it in history books... the bitching about not selecting JU stays with the browns fans of 1955.

    What is absurd is the fact that you are too obtuse to recognize that I was purposely being absurd.

    I could have used any of numerous more recent analogies: Why didn't the Browns take Derek Carr instead of JFF, why didn't they take Russell Wilson instead of Weeden, why didn't they take Rodgers, or Roethlisberger, or why not take Tom Brady instead of Spergon Wynn....and on and on and on.

    I just don't want to hear this fucking teenage lament over not taking Carson Wentz....or any other motherfucker that the Ghosts of Browns Christmases past passed up. The Browns have made bad draft choice after bad draft choice time and time again.

    I mean shit.....why did the Steelers wait until the 6th round (and every other team) to take Antonio Brown if they knew he was this good? You got lucky that some 200+ other choices were made before you got this guy and not one of the other 31 teams took him.

    I mean....do you need a fucking humor transplant to get it when someone is being sarcastic?