WEEK 8 NCAA FOOTBALL, top 25, POWER RATINGS, games this week
-
You are making like a frog and jumping to conclusions...or as they now say, you are making WAGs.
You presume that Wash will have a loss. You presume that both Baylor and WVa. will have a loss.
You apparently also presume that Nebraska will lose.
Certainly all of these things could happen, but they are speculations, and shouldn't be presumed.
My list of 12 includes anyone with an outside chance at this point. And 12....only half way through the season, is a pretty small number. And yes, it could be pared down. The loser of A&M/Bama (though...in my opinion, the committee won't ever dismiss East Germany...they are too much in love with them)
Utah could lose to UCLA. TCU could up end WVa.
It would be a serious major upset if anyone else were to lose...the Big Ten and ACC schools and Wash.
Check back with me in two months. There will be, at most, three undefeated teams. And gun to my head right now, there will probably only be 1-2.
See I can actually make a prediction, rather than highlighting really obvious things (like 0 and 1-loss teams from the P5) and making a really obvious statement (like the national champion will be one of them).
Check back with me in two months. There will be, at most, three undefeated teams. And gun to my head right now, there will probably only be 1-2.
See I can actually make a prediction, rather than highlighting really obvious things (like 0 and 1-loss teams from the P5) and making a really obvious statement (like the national champion will be one of them).
Your statements are nothing but obvious. Sure there will only be 3 or fewer undefeated teams. Any moron can predict that. anyone with an opinion or an asshole can predict anything. (I assume you mean major undefeated teams....not Boise St. and W. Mich.).
Aside from those two, there are only 9 undefeated now.
Ohio St./Mich/Nebraska will have to play a round robin of sorts....so only 1 at most of them can come out of the Big Ten unscathed.
Baylor and WVa. will play, eliminating one.
A&M and Alabama play...eliminating one.
Would you take a bolder move and predict that there would be 4..or 5 undefeated? In theory that could happen.
1. Winner of Big Ten round robin
2. Winner of A&M/Alabama
3. Big 12 Champ
4. Clemson out of ACC
5. Washington out of Pac 12
In theory, this could definitely happen. The only thing to prevent it is for there to be a major/minor upset. Like FSU beating Clemson in ACC title game.
I will make the bolder, more daring prediction: there will be 5 undefeateds, one each from the P5 Conferences.
Now...predict which 4 of those 5 the Committee will take into the 4 team playoffs.
-
As I see it ONLY those I have highlighted have any realistic chance of winning the National Championship.
I'm a Gator fan but believe me, the Gators have NO shot..
I'm a Gator fan but believe me, the Gators have NO shot..
I understand. All I am saying is that there is the dumb and dumber "so you say there's a chance" situation. Say Fla. does go undefeated the rest of the way....one loss.....not probable, but plausible...and they beat the SEC West winner...ergo ending up SEC Champ (and all other SEC teams also having a loss). They go to the playoff, don't they? How could they be denied? (unless there are undefeateds from the other 4 P5 conferences) Do you think under any circumstances these days that the Committee would not take a team from the SEC?
-
I'll be rooting for the Aggies
A lot of people across America will be rooting for the Aggies.
-
I'm a Gator fan but believe me, the Gators have NO shot..
I understand. All I am saying is that there is the dumb and dumber "so you say there's a chance" situation. Say Fla. does go undefeated the rest of the way....one loss.....not probable, but plausible...and they beat the SEC West winner...ergo ending up SEC Champ (and all other SEC teams also having a loss). They go to the playoff, don't they? How could they be denied? (unless there are undefeateds from the other 4 P5 conferences) Do you think under any circumstances these days that the Committee would not take a team from the SEC?
I understand. All I am saying is that there is the dumb and dumber "so you say there's a chance" situation. Say Fla. does go undefeated the rest of the way....one loss.....not probable, but plausible...and they beat the SEC West winner...ergo ending up SEC Champ (and all other SEC teams also having a loss). They go to the playoff, don't they? How could they be denied? (unless there are undefeateds from the other 4 P5 conferences) Do you think under any circumstances these days that the Committee would not take a team from the SEC?
OR maybe just maybe the stuck in the 19?? D-1A football powers will actually do what every other college sport does and have a REAL playoff system which could very easily be incorporated into the now largely semi to grossly empty bowl system and their 6-6, 7-6 teams?
Even we knuckleheads here could figure out how to run it, start with the top 16 or at least 8 teams and seed away. (Or just cheat and look how the D-1AA has been doing it for decades.)
Who wouldn't want to go see ALA, OSU, TAM, CLEM, etc. in a first round game instead of UTEP vs NM or other snoozers?
And bravo for going to 4 teams you've got it 25% right.
-
I understand. All I am saying is that there is the dumb and dumber "so you say there's a chance" situation. Say Fla. does go undefeated the rest of the way....one loss.....not probable, but plausible...and they beat the SEC West winner...ergo ending up SEC Champ (and all other SEC teams also having a loss). They go to the playoff, don't they? How could they be denied? (unless there are undefeateds from the other 4 P5 conferences) Do you think under any circumstances these days that the Committee would not take a team from the SEC?
OR maybe just maybe the stuck in the 19?? D-1A football powers will actually do what every other college sport does and have a REAL playoff system which could very easily be incorporated into the now largely semi to grossly empty bowl system and their 6-6, 7-6 teams?
Even we knuckleheads here could figure out how to run it, start with the top 16 or at least 8 teams and seed away. (Or just cheat and look how the D-1AA has been doing it for decades.)
Who wouldn't want to go see ALA, OSU, TAM, CLEM, etc. in a first round game instead of UTEP vs NM or other snoozers?
And bravo for going to 4 teams you've got it 25% right.
OR maybe just maybe the stuck in the 19?? D-1A football powers will actually do what every other college sport does and have a REAL playoff system which could very easily be incorporated into the now largely semi to grossly empty bowl system and their 6-6, 7-6 teams?
Even we knuckleheads here could figure out how to run it, start with the top 16 or at least 8 teams and seed away. (Or just cheat and look how the D-1AA has been doing it for decades.)
Who wouldn't want to go see ALA, OSU, TAM, CLEM, etc. in a first round game instead of UTEP vs NM or other snoozers?
And bravo for going to 4 teams you've got it 25% right.
The other divisions FCS, II and III have 16 team playoffs.
-
OR maybe just maybe the stuck in the 19?? D-1A football powers will actually do what every other college sport does and have a REAL playoff system which could very easily be incorporated into the now largely semi to grossly empty bowl system and their 6-6, 7-6 teams?
Even we knuckleheads here could figure out how to run it, start with the top 16 or at least 8 teams and seed away. (Or just cheat and look how the D-1AA has been doing it for decades.)
Who wouldn't want to go see ALA, OSU, TAM, CLEM, etc. in a first round game instead of UTEP vs NM or other snoozers?
And bravo for going to 4 teams you've got it 25% right.
The other divisions FCS, II and III have 16 team playoffs.
The other divisions FCS, II and III have 16 team playoffs.
And great playoffs in hockey, baseball and other sports including the mother of all playoffs March Madness.
D-1A football has always been a pet peeve of mine with their flimsy excuses. Preserve the bowls? There's too many or too many empty bowls. Too many games? Well half go home after one playoff game.
Truth is there are the old "fiefdoms" of the old guard protecting their old bowls. They just can't see a better way, they better do it before the bowls just start to fold on their own.
Remember the old B1G and their old, old rules? No freshman players play, no redshirts, no JUCOs, the antiquated Rose Bowl setup? Even they begrudgingly changed their ways.....when the B1G was slipping badly.
Change can be good, beats extinction.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Check back with me in two months. There will be, at most, three undefeated teams. And gun to my head right now, there will probably only be 1-2.
See I can actually make a prediction, rather than highlighting really obvious things (like 0 and 1-loss teams from the P5) and making a really obvious statement (like the national champion will be one of them).
Your statements are nothing but obvious. Sure there will only be 3 or fewer undefeated teams. Any moron can predict that. anyone with an opinion or an asshole can predict anything. (I assume you mean major undefeated teams....not Boise St. and W. Mich.).
Aside from those two, there are only 9 undefeated now.
Ohio St./Mich/Nebraska will have to play a round robin of sorts....so only 1 at most of them can come out of the Big Ten unscathed.
Baylor and WVa. will play, eliminating one.
A&M and Alabama play...eliminating one.
Would you take a bolder move and predict that there would be 4..or 5 undefeated? In theory that could happen.
1. Winner of Big Ten round robin
2. Winner of A&M/Alabama
3. Big 12 Champ
4. Clemson out of ACC
5. Washington out of Pac 12
In theory, this could definitely happen. The only thing to prevent it is for there to be a major/minor upset. Like FSU beating Clemson in ACC title game.
I will make the bolder, more daring prediction: there will be 5 undefeateds, one each from the P5 Conferences.
Now...predict which 4 of those 5 the Committee will take into the 4 team playoffs.
Your statements are nothing but obvious. Sure there will only be 3 or fewer undefeated teams. Any moron can predict that. anyone with an opinion or an asshole can predict anything. (I assume you mean major undefeated teams....not Boise St. and W. Mich.).
Aside from those two, there are only 9 undefeated now.
Ohio St./Mich/Nebraska will have to play a round robin of sorts....so only 1 at most of them can come out of the Big Ten unscathed.
Baylor and WVa. will play, eliminating one.
A&M and Alabama play...eliminating one.
Would you take a bolder move and predict that there would be 4..or 5 undefeated? In theory that could happen.
1. Winner of Big Ten round robin
2. Winner of A&M/Alabama
3. Big 12 Champ
4. Clemson out of ACC
5. Washington out of Pac 12
In theory, this could definitely happen. The only thing to prevent it is for there to be a major/minor upset. Like FSU beating Clemson in ACC title game.
I will make the bolder, more daring prediction: there will be 5 undefeateds, one each from the P5 Conferences.
Now...predict which 4 of those 5 the Committee will take into the 4 team playoffs.
Not gonna happen. And if you'd actually watch some college football you'd know that. We'll see.
-
Your statements are nothing but obvious. Sure there will only be 3 or fewer undefeated teams. Any moron can predict that. anyone with an opinion or an asshole can predict anything. (I assume you mean major undefeated teams....not Boise St. and W. Mich.).
Aside from those two, there are only 9 undefeated now.
Ohio St./Mich/Nebraska will have to play a round robin of sorts....so only 1 at most of them can come out of the Big Ten unscathed.
Baylor and WVa. will play, eliminating one.
A&M and Alabama play...eliminating one.
Would you take a bolder move and predict that there would be 4..or 5 undefeated? In theory that could happen.
1. Winner of Big Ten round robin
2. Winner of A&M/Alabama
3. Big 12 Champ
4. Clemson out of ACC
5. Washington out of Pac 12
In theory, this could definitely happen. The only thing to prevent it is for there to be a major/minor upset. Like FSU beating Clemson in ACC title game.
I will make the bolder, more daring prediction: there will be 5 undefeateds, one each from the P5 Conferences.
Now...predict which 4 of those 5 the Committee will take into the 4 team playoffs.
Not gonna happen. And if you'd actually watch some college football you'd know that. We'll see.
Not gonna happen. And if you'd actually watch some college football you'd know that. We'll see.
I am talking obviously in possibilities, not probabilities (do you not get that?).
So, who on their schedule is going to beat Washington? At Utah may be the only chance.
Who on Clemson schedule is going to beat them? Florida State is the last viable option...and you saw what Louisville did to them.
And who is going to beat Alabama? You guys? And if you do, then who is going to beat youans? (maybe LSU...but y'all aught to be favored big there.....the East winner?
Who is going to beat the winner of Baylor/WVa? Well, Oklahoma could beat either for sure.
Whose gonna beat the OSU/Mich winner? Nebraska? Then who is going to beat them? (actually, they will play both OSU and Wisconsin in the regular season....they won't win both if either of those games.
There could still easily be 4: Bama/Clemson/Wash/ Ohio State-Mich winner. There is my prediction for the Field of Four.
And I do know that because I watch enough of it...and it is a logical prediction.
-
The other divisions FCS, II and III have 16 team playoffs.
And great playoffs in hockey, baseball and other sports including the mother of all playoffs March Madness.
D-1A football has always been a pet peeve of mine with their flimsy excuses. Preserve the bowls? There's too many or too many empty bowls. Too many games? Well half go home after one playoff game.
Truth is there are the old "fiefdoms" of the old guard protecting their old bowls. They just can't see a better way, they better do it before the bowls just start to fold on their own.
Remember the old B1G and their old, old rules? No freshman players play, no redshirts, no JUCOs, the antiquated Rose Bowl setup? Even they begrudgingly changed their ways.....when the B1G was slipping badly.
Change can be good, beats extinction.
And great playoffs in hockey, baseball and other sports including the mother of all playoffs March Madness.
D-1A football has always been a pet peeve of mine with their flimsy excuses. Preserve the bowls? There's too many or too many empty bowls. Too many games? Well half go home after one playoff game.
Truth is there are the old "fiefdoms" of the old guard protecting their old bowls. They just can't see a better way, they better do it before the bowls just start to fold on their own.
Remember the old B1G and their old, old rules? No freshman players play, no redshirts, no JUCOs, the antiquated Rose Bowl setup? Even they begrudgingly changed their ways.....when the B1G was slipping badly.
Change can be good, beats extinction.
couldn't you still use the bowl games in a playoff format ? or would they say that is just to many games for the players cause (cough cough) they would miss to much class time
-
And great playoffs in hockey, baseball and other sports including the mother of all playoffs March Madness.
D-1A football has always been a pet peeve of mine with their flimsy excuses. Preserve the bowls? There's too many or too many empty bowls. Too many games? Well half go home after one playoff game.
Truth is there are the old "fiefdoms" of the old guard protecting their old bowls. They just can't see a better way, they better do it before the bowls just start to fold on their own.
Remember the old B1G and their old, old rules? No freshman players play, no redshirts, no JUCOs, the antiquated Rose Bowl setup? Even they begrudgingly changed their ways.....when the B1G was slipping badly.
Change can be good, beats extinction.
couldn't you still use the bowl games in a playoff format ? or would they say that is just to many games for the players cause (cough cough) they would miss to much class time
couldn't you still use the bowl games in a playoff format ? or would they say that is just to many games for the players cause (cough cough) they would miss to much class time
Absolutely the bowl season starts in early December and runs into January.
With 16 teams you need 8 round one games, 4 round two, 2 round three and 1 National Championship Game. The current bowls could absorb part or all of them, maybe the 8 round one as the upper seed home games, whatever.
Missed classes? They've been doing this for many decades already in football and it's only a few seeded teams anyway 16 to 8 to 4 to 2.
Ask the players if they mind playing for a championship? And they should have done this BEFORE all the conferences decided to have their own championship games many years back.
-
I'll be rooting for the Aggies
This is the deepest and best overall Bama team I have ever seen. A&M will be fortunate to come close to covering the 17 whatever point spread. These guys are going to roll everybody this year OSU included if they end up playing.
-
I'll be rooting for the Aggies
This is the deepest and best overall Bama team I have ever seen. A&M will be fortunate to come close to covering the 17 whatever point spread. These guys are going to roll everybody this year OSU included if they end up playing.
This is the deepest and best overall Bama team I have ever seen. A&M will be fortunate to come close to covering the 17 whatever point spread. These guys are going to roll everybody this year OSU included if they end up playing.
Right now beating Bama would require a whole set of weird things to happen in one game like bad calls, strange ball bounces, a really fired up road opponent, suspensions, injuries (although great teams tend to be deep) and who knows what else. Plus the elite coaches (Saban, Meyer et. al.) tend to negate those types of distractions.
I'd put Ala -7 vs OSU on a neutral field right now, maybe more. But in sports never say never.
-
This is the deepest and best overall Bama team I have ever seen. A&M will be fortunate to come close to covering the 17 whatever point spread. These guys are going to roll everybody this year OSU included if they end up playing.
Right now beating Bama would require a whole set of weird things to happen in one game like bad calls, strange ball bounces, a really fired up road opponent, suspensions, injuries (although great teams tend to be deep) and who knows what else. Plus the elite coaches (Saban, Meyer et. al.) tend to negate those types of distractions.
I'd put Ala -7 vs OSU on a neutral field right now, maybe more. But in sports never say never.
Right now beating Bama would require a whole set of weird things to happen in one game like bad calls, strange ball bounces, a really fired up road opponent, suspensions, injuries (although great teams tend to be deep) and who knows what else. Plus the elite coaches (Saban, Meyer et. al.) tend to negate those types of distractions.
I'd put Ala -7 vs OSU on a neutral field right now, maybe more. But in sports never say never.
And as you may be seeing today, -7 is a major underestimation of Bama.
-
Right now beating Bama would require a whole set of weird things to happen in one game like bad calls, strange ball bounces, a really fired up road opponent, suspensions, injuries (although great teams tend to be deep) and who knows what else. Plus the elite coaches (Saban, Meyer et. al.) tend to negate those types of distractions.
I'd put Ala -7 vs OSU on a neutral field right now, maybe more. But in sports never say never.
And as you may be seeing today, -7 is a major underestimation of Bama.
ALA favored by -17'or -18 and won by 19, 33-14. I didn't see the game both with 164 yards passing but Alabama outrushed them appeared to control the clock kind of a methodical win.And as you may be seeing today, -7 is a major underestimation of Bama.
I'll be watching #2 OHIO STATE -19' at Penn State tonight at 8 pm on ABC. One of those freaky PSU night white outs might not bother the players but I hate to watch it on TV!
....edit add, let's look at the POWER RATINGS for this game:
OSU 59 5 4
PSU 40 2 4
So based on personnel OSU +19 Coach +3 HF -4 so the line should be about OSU -18 in round numbers, I just checked vegasinsider.com before kickoff the consensus is OSU -17' (NOTE the ' is bookie slang for 1/2 point).
So it generally is pretty close, how about that.
-
-
-
Why?
-
2016 Week 8 AP Top 25
RK TEAM REC PTS TREND (+/-)
1 Alabama(60) 7-0 1524
2 Ohio State 6-0 1457 <--- OSU lost all #1 votes
3 Michigan(1) 6-0 1368 1 <--- "m" got one
4 Clemson 7-0 1337 1
5 Washington 6-0 1304
6 Texas A&M 6-0 1218
7 Louisville 5-1 1168
8 Nebraska 6-0 1037 2
9 Baylor 6-0 1021 2
10 Wisconsin 4-2 935 2 <--- still 4 B1G in top 10
11 Houston 6-1 766 2
12 West Virginia 5-0 744 8
13 Florida State 5-2 733 1
14 Boise State 6-0 694 1
15 Florida 5-1 626 3
16 Oklahoma 4-2 612 3
17 Arkansas 5-2 584 5
18 Tennessee 5-2 550 9
19 Utah 6-1 479 2
20 Western Michigan7-0 285 4 <--- WM?
21 Auburn 4-2 277 2
22 North Carolina 5-2 254 NR
23 Ole Miss 3-3 188 11
24 Navy 4-1 163 1
25 LSU 4-2 123 NR <--- hey LSU back from the dead, below NAVY
As I see it ONLY those I have highlighted have any realistic chance of winning the National Championship.
As I see it ONLY those I have highlighted have any realistic chance of winning the National Championship.
as I said somewhere else (forgot where) I believe LSU would beat most teams ranked out of the top 3
-
As I see it ONLY those I have highlighted have any realistic chance of winning the National Championship.
as I said somewhere else (forgot where) I believe LSU would beat most teams ranked out of the top 3
-
As I see it ONLY those I have highlighted have any realistic chance of winning the National Championship.
as I said somewhere else (forgot where) I believe LSU would beat most teams ranked out of the top 3
as I said somewhere else (forgot where) I believe LSU would beat most teams ranked out of the top 3
They already lost to Wisconsin and Auburn....neither of whom are in Top 3....and never were rated that high. So that disprooves that theory.
Who have they actually beaten? The three Mississippi schools (Ole Miss/Miss. St./So. Miss), Missouri and Arkansas, and a cream puff. Are any of them even a .500 team?
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login