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  • more stupidity by Lumskull

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    If only the team knew about it then who do you think told Dilfer? There are only 11 guys who played on the 2005 team with Dilfer. And how did Dilfer know that the decision came from the "very very very top"?

    Derek Anderson

    Josh Cribbs

    Andra Davis

    Phil Dawson

    Braylon Edwards

    Steve Heiden

    Sean Jones

    Ryan Pontbriand

    Brodney Pool

    Kellen Winslow

    Jason Wright

    Let me see...who would be whining about the change of QB who would also be on that list? I am having trouble. One of those names just doesn't fit.....I just can't put my finger on it!!!

    Listen...Dilfer had a MAJOR blowup with this team. His first comments were that this is a BAD TEAM and that it is DYSFUNCTIONAL...of course not even acknowledging the fact we went 10-6 last year and were still able (when DA played well) to beat the defending champs rather dominantly on MNF.

    As for why they would bring him on...ESPN and the NFL Network ALWAYS try to get an ex-player from the squad in question to address these changes. It is a script they keep to.

    Do us all a favor and look back to when Dilfer was benched/traded and check out his comments back then. He basically said the EXACT SAME THINGS! The team is bad (not me) and dysfunctional. So no surprise to any of us LONG TIME BROWNS FANS that his ugly bald head popped up again....and VERY LIKELY his inside info was DA himself!!!

  • greythan I find it very suspect that RAC who does not make decisions effectively or quickly from what he has shown us with coaches and players that he would make this decision on a short week.

    Phil savage seems like he has made his choice, I happen to think that Mortenson is fairly astute and accurate in what he tries to report. I am not listening to Lum, it just makes sense.

    Regardless of the why and the how the realities are that someone somewhere in the organization made the choice. I hope the 1.5 year prep time has been good for BQ because they are not doing him any favors throwing him in on a very short week on a thursday game. I am sure he will handle the pressure and scrutiny fine.

    Honestly debating pros and cons for DA is a nonfactor now, I hope that I am wrong about BQ and will give him the same fair treatment and time he is going to need.

  • greythan I find it very suspect that RAC who does not make decisions effectively or quickly from what he has shown us with coaches and players that he would make this decision on a short week.

    Phil savage seems like he has made his choice, I happen to think that Mortenson is fairly astute and accurate in what he tries to report. I am not listening to Lum, it just makes sense.

    All indications point to RAC having trouble making the tough decision. Carthon, Frye, and now Anderson. The appearance of a fact pattern is there, however, we all remain blind to what actually happens behind closed doors in Berea.

    However, why would you overlook the obvious motivation for the switch (DA's inconsistent play; player on the bench the staff traded up to get) going into a game against a poorly ranked defense hearing from RAC for a few weeks now that Quinn is being prepped?

    The most logical reason for the switch is what's been debated on these boards all season regarding the actual play of our QB.

    So, let's drop the guilty until proven innocent view here and stick with the rational. If credible information becomes available indicating the switch was made to placate the fanbase, then we can all lament management together.

  • Lerner finally got his head out of the sand and did something for once!

    why shouldnt he use some pull to make the switch..absolutely no other team in the NFL would have had that inconsistent of play from the most important position on the field. It's just ludacris that these shenanigans went on too long

    DA VERY CLEARLY DOES NOT GIVE US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN.

    Lets let Brady rip off 8 straight...hooray !

  • Not according to Romeo; he claims it was his call:

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.s ... ision.html

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    Not according to Romeo; he claims it was his call:

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.s ... ision.html

    Let me post this (soon to be dismissed article):

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    Cleveland Browns coach says switch to quarterback Brady Quinn 'was my decision'

    by Tony Grossi

    Tuesday November 04, 2008, 11:29 AM

    Romeo Crennel said he made the call to bench Derek Anderson for Brady Quinn.

    "Some things had to do with it," Crennel said. "Our record, offensive ranking, offensive production, so I made the decision to make the change."

    Quinn basically will have one full day of practice before making his NFL starting debut Thursday night against the Denver Broncos.

    "Timing? Well, I don't think the short week had nothing to do with it," Crennel said. "It was just time. We're not throwing in the towel, not giving up on the season, we're going to beat Denver, that's what we're going to do."

    Crennel denied ESPN reports that the move was made by his bosses as a public relations ploy.

    "It's my decision," Crennel said. "I informed the organization what I was thinking. They told me they would back whatever decision I made. I feel I have the backing."

    I'm sticking with Mangini & Amber

  • Haha. Sure is was RAC's decision.

    Yeah that's why he said DA was the starter about two hours before they made the change.

    Everybody knows who made this change, regardless of what they told RAC to say.

    Randy "Al Davis" Lerner - The Brady Quinn Lover with the power to make it happen

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    Romeo Crennel said he made the call to bench Derek Anderson for Brady Quinn.

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    Haha. Sure is was RAC's decision

    Funny, Lum, you're the turd who always WITHOUT FAIL threw Romeo's and Phil's words at us, verbatim, as God's Truth.

    Now, when it suits your purposes, you stop believing Romeo? You can't have it both ways.

    You're a joke.

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    Haha. Sure is was RAC's decision.

    Yeah that's why he said DA was the starter about two hours before they made the change.

    Everybody knows who made this change, regardless of what they told RAC to say.

    Randy "Al Davis" Lerner - The Brady Quinn Lover with the power to make it happen

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    Mr. Only-From-The-Horse's-Mouth is now second guessing team officials?

    Lum, you've taken Fraud to a whole new level. It must flat out HURT to be that pathetic.

  • Grey, what are the chances Lum responds to this? Slim? None????

  • Grey, what are the chances Lum responds to this? Slim? None????

    Directly? None.

    This is old (but still fun). He regularly gets his ass handed to him on these boards and has NEVER been man enough to stand up. He did, however, almost rant about DA after his implosion in the first Baltimore game.

  • He also made the comment because the meeting hadn't taken place yet, so at that point DA was still the starter.

    It's not that complicated, you sit down with your coaches and whoever and throw the idea out there. When the consensus is to start the kid, then that's the decision made and it goes down as the coaches.

    RAC 'n ROLLS is not going to say DA is not the starter before he meets with his staff and the players themselves.

    Duhoyeee! dis is a rocket science

    Is a pig's ass pork?

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    First off this is purely speculation on your part and to put it out there as fact is ubsurd.

    So how in the hell else did Trent Dilfer of all people end up breaking the story?

    Dude, do you know what breaking a story means? That ain't breaking a story. That is speculation and opinion.

    If Dilfer were to have heard it from a person in the organization, staff, or Lerners lawn boy, then it would be breaking something.

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    Apparently none of you BQ Fags can give any other reason for Trent Dilfer to have broken this story.

    Well seeing as how you didn't start following the Browns until last year, you don't know Dilfers history in CLE. He was brought in by Savage to be the starter (even traded for him). He blew badly while was here and was yanked mid way through the season for Frye on a bad football team (remember Dilfer using that line in his emo rants on ESPN, "you don't change QBs on a bad football team")?

    He got into trouble out in the flats, had several reported blow ups with OC, and was bitter when he was let go.

    And again, he didn't break anything. He speculated based on his experience in CLE.

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    Apparently none of you BQ Fags can give any other reason for Trent Dilfer to have broken this story.

    Well seeing as how you didn't start following the Browns until last year, you don't know Dilfers history in CLE. He was brought in by Savage to be the starter (even traded for him). He blew badly while was here and was yanked mid way through the season for Frye on a bad football team (remember Dilfer using that line in his emo rants on ESPN, "you don't change QBs on a bad football team")?

    He got into trouble out in the flats, had several reported blow ups with OC, and was bitter when he was let go.

    And again, he didn't break anything. He speculated based on his experience in CLE.

    Hey Mik, remember when da ich slithered out of the bet we had over Dildofer's QB rating after he was player of the week against Green Bay?

    Classic. PS, I've been trying to educate these Oregonians on Browns history so thanks for helping. Lums didn't know Dildofer ever even played in Ctown until yesterday.

    Is a pig's ass pork?

  • Yup, I remember that Russ.

    Of course Lummy didn't know Dilfer was a former Brown until yesterday.

  • Speculation:

    There is not a doubt in my mind that (mr.handsoff ownership) finally got his hands on and told savage of his desire to see bq play and savage relayed the message to rac also putting in his 2 cents in about his desire to see what bq has as well rac most likely had no choice really..

    Savage is doing lerners bidding randy wants everyone to do their job on their own accord and work as partners instead of superior to lesser superior while this is an honorable concept it needs the right people to work and rac is not that guy this team needs an aggressive self starter coach and staff that will address the key issues on the field so savage is free to manage the business end and randy is free to sink another bank with tax payer dollars instead of having to get his nansy panzy hands dirty in football business...

    Gawd i miss the art modell days when this team was just as ruthless and mean as rooneys team...

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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