Friggin Hue Jackson
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Fixed..I understand we had to put our team into good positions to build thru the drafts. But from here on out..It Better be all about TOP TALENT..Hue's getting the most out of the young-ins but Talent Wins
^this!!
i've heard others say "well wouldn't you move down considering all the holes we need filled?"
uh, no. first off we already have a ton of picks. can we at least TRY and pick a keeper in the top ten no matter what the position without trading down? ok, if we have the first pick and we're not drafting QB, which i doubt any team will at #1 cuz there isn't a 'great' qb to be had, then maybe try and get something for a trade down for a couple of spots. but if the #1 pick is going to be the next kahlil mack or joe thomas you have to keep the pick and use it.
^this!!
i've heard others say "well wouldn't you move down considering all the holes we need filled?"
uh, no. first off we already have a ton of picks. can we at least TRY and pick a keeper in the top ten no matter what the position without trading down? ok, if we have the first pick and we're not drafting QB, which i doubt any team will at #1 cuz there isn't a 'great' qb to be had, then maybe try and get something for a trade down for a couple of spots. but if the #1 pick is going to be the next kahlil mack or joe thomas you have to keep the pick and use it.
YEP!!
Mike
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I fully support Hue. The players obviously are motivated & play hard for him & never quit, but it's a young Team still being built & developed. It takes time.
Has Hue made mistakes?....Certainly.
Has & will Hue learn from his mistakes?....I believe so.
Have Hue & his Staff helped many of these young players improve?....Definitely.
As one of my favorite shirts states....."HUE GOTTA BELIEVE".
Mike
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Fixed..I understand we had to put our team into good positions to build thru the drafts. But from here on out..It Better be all about TOP TALENT..Hue's getting the most out of the young-ins but Talent Wins
^this!!
i've heard others say "well wouldn't you move down considering all the holes we need filled?"
uh, no. first off we already have a ton of picks. can we at least TRY and pick a keeper in the top ten no matter what the position without trading down? ok, if we have the first pick and we're not drafting QB, which i doubt any team will at #1 cuz there isn't a 'great' qb to be had, then maybe try and get something for a trade down for a couple of spots. but if the #1 pick is going to be the next kahlil mack or joe thomas you have to keep the pick and use it.
i've heard others say "well wouldn't you move down considering all the holes we need filled?"
uh, no. first off we already have a ton of picks. can we at least TRY and pick a keeper in the top ten no matter what the position without trading down? ok, if we have the first pick and we're not drafting QB, which i doubt any team will at #1 cuz there isn't a 'great' qb to be had, then maybe try and get something for a trade down for a couple of spots. but if the #1 pick is going to be the next kahlil mack or joe thomas you have to keep the pick and use it.
I agree with you and Canton Mike. Enough of this trade down to get more picks stuff. It cost us Julio Jones and Kahlil Mack. That only works if you get equivalent talent farther down the board, and for the Browns, that's never happened yet that I can recall.
The only thing I'll disagree with you Mik is about qb. one (or more) of them invariably rises pre-draft. Anyone on the board can raise their hand and take a bow if they can honestly say they had Goff and Wentz at the top of their boards this time last year.
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i've heard others say "well wouldn't you move down considering all the holes we need filled?"
uh, no. first off we already have a ton of picks. can we at least TRY and pick a keeper in the top ten no matter what the position without trading down? ok, if we have the first pick and we're not drafting QB, which i doubt any team will at #1 cuz there isn't a 'great' qb to be had, then maybe try and get something for a trade down for a couple of spots. but if the #1 pick is going to be the next kahlil mack or joe thomas you have to keep the pick and use it.
I agree with you and Canton Mike. Enough of this trade down to get more picks stuff. It cost us Julio Jones and Kahlil Mack. That only works if you get equivalent talent farther down the board, and for the Browns, that's never happened yet that I can recall.
The only thing I'll disagree with you Mik is about qb. one (or more) of them invariably rises pre-draft. Anyone on the board can raise their hand and take a bow if they can honestly say they had Goff and Wentz at the top of their boards this time last year.
I agree with you and Canton Mike. Enough of this trade down to get more picks stuff. It cost us Julio Jones and Kahlil Mack. That only works if you get equivalent talent farther down the board, and for the Browns, that's never happened yet that I can recall.
The only thing I'll disagree with you Mik is about qb. one (or more) of them invariably rises pre-draft. Anyone on the board can raise their hand and take a bow if they can honestly say they had Goff and Wentz at the top of their boards this time last year.
I agree Larry... I have always been a proponent of taking TBAA. They always seem to make an impact regardless of the position.. I have always hated drafting solely on "Need"
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It was a shitty explanation. I prefaced the comment by saying he shouldn't be fired but is he above criticism? The team is losing because there is little talent but bad calls will doom a mediocre team.
It is a bit of a double standard,......just imagine if "he who should not be mentioned" was still coaching and making some of these decisions........the lynch mob would be beyond angry......
We drafted solely on need?
It is a bit of a double standard,......just imagine if "he who should not be mentioned" was still coaching and making some of these decisions........the lynch mob would be beyond angry......
Pettine... Pettine... Pettine... and I was staring into a mirror in a bathroom illuminated only by the screen of my laptop...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
We drafted solely on need?
It is a bit of a double standard,......just imagine if "he who should not be mentioned" was still coaching and making some of these decisions........the lynch mob would be beyond angry......
Pettine... Pettine... Pettine... and I was staring into a mirror in a bathroom illuminated only by the screen of my laptop...
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Clock management?
Clock management?
OK clock mismanagement
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My question for Hue is this..... Why differ and put the worst part of your team (the defense) out first? We have done this 3 times and trailed 7-0 within 5 minutes
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My question for Hue is this..... Why differ and put the worst part of your team (the defense) out first? We have done this 3 times and trailed 7-0 within 5 minutes
My question for Hue is this..... Why differ and put the worst part of your team (the defense) out first? We have done this 3 times and trailed 7-0 within 5 minutes
I think is pretty much standard operating procedure and also believe the Browns are 1-6 on first drive TDs this year and they have only scored a TD three times in seven games in the first quarter
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Hue has had a rough couple of games regarding game day management. Playing conservative and punting today on 4th & 2 before the half was his call, and while I wanted us to go for it, I understood the logic - get to 1/2 time down 4, see how the starting QB is doing, and try to win it in the 2nd 1/2..........
............ then he called a defensive TO when Cincy was more than content to get to 1/2 time up 4..... Can't play both sides Hue, if you wanted to be aggressive then you should've gone for the 4th and 2, but once you didn't, then you needed to get to 1/2 time like you hoped for when you were on offense... If he doesn't call that TO, then the hail marry never happens.
Bad, bad game day management.
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Hue has had a rough couple of games regarding game day management. Playing conservative and punting today on 4th & 2 before the half was his call, and while I wanted us to go for it, I understood the logic - get to 1/2 time down 4, see how the starting QB is doing, and try to win it in the 2nd 1/2..........
............ then he called a defensive TO when Cincy was more than content to get to 1/2 time up 4..... Can't play both sides Hue, if you wanted to be aggressive then you should've gone for the 4th and 2, but once you didn't, then you needed to get to 1/2 time like you hoped for when you were on offense... If he doesn't call that TO, then the hail marry never happens.
Bad, bad game day management.
Hue has had a rough couple of games regarding game day management. Playing conservative and punting today on 4th & 2 before the half was his call, and while I wanted us to go for it, I understood the logic - get to 1/2 time down 4, see how the starting QB is doing, and try to win it in the 2nd 1/2..........
............ then he called a defensive TO when Cincy was more than content to get to 1/2 time up 4..... Can't play both sides Hue, if you wanted to be aggressive then you should've gone for the 4th and 2, but once you didn't, then you needed to get to 1/2 time like you hoped for when you were on offense... If he doesn't call that TO, then the hail marry never happens.
Bad, bad game day management.
Hue screwed it up totally...AND...it ended in such a fashion as to HIGHLIGHT his screw ups.
If you're too much of a wimp to go for it on 4th and 3 on their 38....why on earth would you ever call time out when the Bengals were willing to let you off the hook and go into half time? Especially since you only have 2 time outs anyway...and you've got a terrible defense.....and you're starting the 2nd half with the ball....
I defended Hue last week for going for the 2 point conversion when he did.....when all of the media people were chastising him....but today scared me.
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...and I don't like the idea of running the QB to make yards. We've got Kessler in the locker room....and we're running the QB, and he's not even sliding. Did that make any sense? (having said that...nice TD run by Hogan)
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