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  • I agree. I know others have said the same thing and I agree now. Joe is overrated even when 100% He had some good games but that is water under the bridge.

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  • I think he was very good at shutting down the other teams 1 albeit he's a tad overrated or atleast was but he's never on the field anymore and when he has a bad game he doesn't play the next week.

  • Joe's been great. I think we can all remember him at his peak shutting down the likes of AJ Green and Julio Jones. Also easy to remember him flying to his edge to disrupt runs his way. Tough guy who still looks to be the best CB, if not DB, we have on the team. Two INTs in 4 games this season ain't nothing...

    However, only in his rookie year has he appeared in all 16 games and last year's 5 was a career low. Lot of wear and tear over 6 seasons and counting. Enough to where he can't stay healthy and even when he is, he can't be his best anymore.

    With nearly $11mm/yr guaranteed each of the next three years, his contract does not look "moveable" to me. Help in the form of a pass rush and/or a hot, young CB opposite him would seem to be the best Rx.

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  • why do I get the feeling Haden has Carlos Baerga syndrome?

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Joe's been great. I think we can all remember him at his peak shutting down the likes of AJ Green and Julio Jones. Also easy to remember him flying to his edge to disrupt runs his way. Tough guy who still looks to be the best CB, if not DB, we have on the team. Two INTs in 4 games this season ain't nothing...

    However, only in his rookie year has he appeared in all 16 games and last year's 5 was a career low. Lot of wear and tear over 6 seasons and counting. Enough to where he can't stay healthy and even when he is, he can't be his best anymore.

    With nearly $11mm/yr guaranteed each of the next three years, his contract does not look "moveable" to me. Help in the form of a pass rush and/or a hot, young CB opposite him would seem to be the best Rx.

    @tour2ma said:

    Help in the form of a pass rush and/or a hot, young CB opposite him would seem to be the best Rx.

    Doesn't have to be an "and/or" this year Tour. Nothing wrong with an "and". 😁

  • lol... Just trying to keep in touch with reality, Ag...

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  • I'll repeat myself, there are only a small handful of CB's in the NFL that I feel could move to safety. Haden happens to be one of them.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    I'll repeat myself, there are only a small handful of CB's in the NFL that I feel could move to safety. Haden happens to be one of them.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I'll repeat myself, there are only a small handful of CB's in the NFL that I feel could move to safety. Haden happens to be one of them.

    What is he 5'10 180, can't really see him as a safety.

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  • Or are they making sure that he stays healthy enough to pass a physical? I've read and heard some serious sounding rumors of Carolina wanting him bad. Unfavorable contract and all.

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    @tiamat63 said:

    I'll repeat myself, there are only a small handful of CB's in the NFL that I feel could move to safety. Haden happens to be one of them.

    What is he 5'10 180, can't really see him as a safety.

    @falcon7 said:

    What is he 5'10 180, can't really see him as a safety.

    He's a touch bigger than that. 5'11 190ish. At his age and body type another 5-10lbs is very obtainable. Even then, when you're back on a hash and you master angles, its much easier to protect yourself than at CB IMHO.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Joe's been great. I think we can all remember him at his peak shutting down the likes of AJ Green and Julio Jones. Also easy to remember him flying to his edge to disrupt runs his way. Tough guy who still looks to be the best CB, if not DB, we have on the team. Two INTs in 4 games this season ain't nothing...

    However, only in his rookie year has he appeared in all 16 games and last year's 5 was a career low. Lot of wear and tear over 6 seasons and counting. Enough to where he can't stay healthy and even when he is, he can't be his best anymore.

    With nearly $11mm/yr guaranteed each of the next three years, his contract does not look "moveable" to me. Help in the form of a pass rush and/or a hot, young CB opposite him would seem to be the best Rx.

    @tour2ma said:

    Joe's been great. I think we can all remember him at his peak shutting down the likes of AJ Green and Julio Jones. Also easy to remember him flying to his edge to disrupt runs his way. Tough guy who still looks to be the best CB, if not DB, we have on the team. Two INTs in 4 games this season ain't nothing...

    However, only in his rookie year has he appeared in all 16 games and last year's 5 was a career low. Lot of wear and tear over 6 seasons and counting. Enough to where he can't stay healthy and even when he is, he can't be his best anymore.

    With nearly $11mm/yr guaranteed each of the next three years, his contract does not look "moveable" to me. Help in the form of a pass rush and/or a hot, young CB opposite him would seem to be the best Rx.

    He's not moveable. We can only hope he gets healthy and stays healthy. He will be a Brown this year and next.

    Very worried about our DBs tomorrow, if ever these young pass rusher are going to "get it", let's hope it kicks in tomorrow.

    Z

  • Z Zombo

    @tour2ma said:

    Joe's been great. I think we can all remember him at his peak shutting down the likes of AJ Green and Julio Jones. Also easy to remember him flying to his edge to disrupt runs his way. Tough guy who still looks to be the best CB, if not DB, we have on the team. Two INTs in 4 games this season ain't nothing...

    However, only in his rookie year has he appeared in all 16 games and last year's 5 was a career low. Lot of wear and tear over 6 seasons and counting. Enough to where he can't stay healthy and even when he is, he can't be his best anymore.

    With nearly $11mm/yr guaranteed each of the next three years, his contract does not look "moveable" to me. Help in the form of a pass rush and/or a hot, young CB opposite him would seem to be the best Rx.

    He's not moveable. We can only hope he gets healthy and stays healthy. He will be a Brown this year and next.

    Very worried about our DBs tomorrow, if ever these young pass rusher are going to "get it", let's hope it kicks in tomorrow.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    He's not moveable. We can only hope he gets healthy and stays healthy. He will be a Brown this year and next.

    Very worried about our DBs tomorrow, if ever these young pass rusher are going to "get it", let's hope it kicks in tomorrow.

    Z

    How prescient! (maybe not). Being "very worried about our DBs tomorrow" was an understatement. That group sucks the life out of this team.

    And....as far as I can see....the coaching of this talentless bunch is about equal to the talent.

    Let's have AJ Green covered one on one with Boddy-Calhoun.

    What ass thought up that strategy?

  • Like Tour mentioned, Joe Haden has been great - he's been getting banged up here and there, sure.

    But Haden has been the guy that shut down the likes of A.J. Green - much to Green's frustration.

    The Cincy game shows how valuable Haden has been, and how terrific he's been.

    I believe the Browns will go after db's in the next draft like they did wr's last draft.

    Toss in a safety or two...great to have all those picks. Taylor did his best, but kept coming up short -

    it's a hell of a tough assignment to cover the likes of Green.

  • Joe is making it rain with Jimmy's money somewhere

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