Vikes: Norv quits; Shurmur steps up

miktoxic

yes. but don't put it all on the coaches. you can only coach up so much depending on talent level. it's like the old saying, you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.

i heard that a couple of times last night......somewhere.

ugh.

Clevfan4life

According to ghoulie oc's and dc's are coffee mules. So that means the last time i felt the entire defense might be on to something was under shurms 4-3. So ill leave it at that

jbluhm86

@miktoxic said:

and people still dismiss drafting OL as some type of myth to winning football games.

HA!!!

Somewhere deep in Mordor, Ghoolie's ears are burning...

jbluhm86

@bob806 said:

Shurmer was the worst HC in Browns history. Holmgren hired him because he had a great relationship with Fritz.

Minnesota needs help on the O line, not a coaching switch.

Ah, Shurloss, Holmgren and Weeden - the unholy trinity of Browns football.

Tour2ma

@orion said:
Norv has always been a respected offensive coach.

Yes, but I feel like this was not the case when it came to his Viking's HC. Zim's a great DC, but "Volatile" is his middle name and as a DC he had an HC to keep him in line.... to keep him from going full Buddy Ryan.

There is no check on him as HC so I could see him getting on staff in general the past three years and more and more on Norv as fortunes have turned recently.

@clevfan4life said:
According to ghoulie oc's and dc's are coffee mules. So that means the last time i felt the entire defense might be on to something was under shurms 4-3. So ill leave it at that

Shurm's 4-3???

Dick Jauron has not been in the league since we sent him packing after the 2012 season.