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  • Did some good things. Did some NOT so good things. I can't get on board with a #1 overall selection though.

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    Did some good things. Did some NOT so good things. I can't get on board with a #1 overall selection though.

    Agree. Definitely has the tools to succeed. It's a gamble picking him #1, 10, wherever.

    Then again, like some suggest, keep picking a QB until you get it right.

  • @wargograw said:

    When did Danielson call a game of Trubisky's?

    I'm sure he never watched any tape, has never has called a game involving other top qb prospects, and just said that because he's a closet Browns homer because he used to play qb for Cleveland.

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by

    @hoorta said:

    I'm sure he never watched any tape, has never has called a game involving other top qb prospects, and just said that because he's a closet Browns homer because he used to play qb for Cleveland.

    I'm just wondering where/when he said it.

  • While I'd rather go the Jimmy G route at QB I can see why Hoorta, Gipper and others have some queer eye for Trubi-sky. I couldn't wait to watch him yesterday to see if he could overcome some questions I had.

    I've seen 2 games his team lost this year. Both times his Receivers had multiple drops while he really impressed me at escaping trouble. His line kept him in trouble a lot so Cleveland might not be as big of a culture shock as some may think. The one thing he didn't always do when he escaped trouble was keep his eyes down field for WRs breaking open. Ben Rapen used to do that a lot early on when he was less seasoned before he started hitting WRs/RBs/TEs breaking open after/while escaping pocket pressure.

    Potential red flags: Locking onto the primary target doesn't project one is ready to read progressions against more complicated NFL schemes. It also leads to turnovers as we saw. Starting only 1 year keeps a lot of questions in play for a potential investor.

    Potential buried treasure: Does not panic under pressure, which prepares him well for a line like our's. He's learned he needs to get rid of it quickly. Also, if someone drops a pass in the end zone - he proved he can overcome it with another accurate throw in the end zone. Big, strong, elusive and accurate doesn't suck either.

    If you invest in a QB - you have to protect your investment (with better surroundings/protection than the Coyote Ugly we have continued to give QBs here since 99). Look no further than the difference in settings that Goff and Prescott were given. Handing a young QB a 7-0 deficit every time he has his 1st possession doesn't help at all.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by

    I gotta agree with this almost word for word.....

    @flugel said:

    While I'd rather go the Jimmy G route at QB I can see why Hoorta, Gipper and others have some queer eye for Trubi-sky. I couldn't wait to watch him yesterday to see if he could overcome some questions I had.

    Potential red flags: Locking onto the primary target doesn't project one is ready to read progressions against more complicated NFL schemes. It also leads to turnovers as we saw. Starting only 1 year keeps a lot of questions in play for a potential investor.

    Yes....he seems to do just that......stare down his receiver......

    Potential buried treasure: Does not panic under pressure, which prepares him well for a line like our's. He's learned he needs to get rid of it quickly. Also, if someone drops a pass in the end zone - he proved he can overcome it with another accurate throw in the end zone. Big, strong, elusive and accurate doesn't suck either.

    He does seem to have many of the intangibles that we consider good for our division......(and a team that cant protect the QB very well)

    If you invest in a QB - you have to protect your investment (with better surroundings/protection than the Coyote Ugly we have continued to give QBs here since 99). Look no further than the difference in settings that Goff and Prescott were given. Handing a young QB a 7-0 deficit every time he has his 1st possession doesn't help at all.

    One of my main bitches, going all the way back to last FA period.......we signed a fragile QB and drafted a green one, then did ZERO to put them in position to succeed(or last more than a game or 2)......If they go ahead and draft a QB #1 this year, w/o fixing the pass pro or seeing their 2 previous QB projects through, I might lose my mind.....

  • TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by

    For those worried about only 1 yr as a starter, Mitch did play some in 2015. One game really stands out where he came off the bench in the second half for an ineffective Marquis and his stats in one half went like this.

    09/26/15 Delaware Grass W 41-14 20att 17comp 85.0% 312yrds 15.6yrdsper 4td 0int 282.04QB rating

    The kid has talent

  • @hoorta said:

    I'm sure he never watched any tape, has never has called a game involving other top qb prospects, and just said that because he's a closet Browns homer because he used to play qb for Cleveland.

    I'm just wondering where/when he said it.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by

    @wargograw said:

    I'm just wondering where/when he said it.

    If I get around to a redo of the game I'll let you know.

  • While I'd rather go the Jimmy G route at QB I can see why Hoorta, Gipper and others have some queer eye for Trubi-sky. I couldn't wait to watch him yesterday to see if he could overcome some questions I had.

    I've seen 2 games his team lost this year. Both times his Receivers had multiple drops while he really impressed me at escaping trouble. His line kept him in trouble a lot so Cleveland might not be as big of a culture shock as some may think. The one thing he didn't always do when he escaped trouble was keep his eyes down field for WRs breaking open. Ben Rapen used to do that a lot early on when he was less seasoned before he started hitting WRs/RBs/TEs breaking open after/while escaping pocket pressure.

    Potential red flags: Locking onto the primary target doesn't project one is ready to read progressions against more complicated NFL schemes. It also leads to turnovers as we saw. Starting only 1 year keeps a lot of questions in play for a potential investor.

    Potential buried treasure: Does not panic under pressure, which prepares him well for a line like our's. He's learned he needs to get rid of it quickly. Also, if someone drops a pass in the end zone - he proved he can overcome it with another accurate throw in the end zone. Big, strong, elusive and accurate doesn't suck either.

    If you invest in a QB - you have to protect your investment (with better surroundings/protection than the Coyote Ugly we have continued to give QBs here since 99). Look no further than the difference in settings that Goff and Prescott were given. Handing a young QB a 7-0 deficit every time he has his 1st possession doesn't help at all.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta

    @flugel said:

    While I'd rather go the Jimmy G route at QB I can see why Hoorta, Gipper and others have some queer eye for Trubi-sky. I couldn't wait to watch him yesterday to see if he could overcome some questions I had.

    I've seen 2 games his team lost this year. Both times his Receivers had multiple drops while he really impressed me at escaping trouble. His line kept him in trouble a lot so Cleveland might not be as big of a culture shock as some may think. The one thing he didn't always do when he escaped trouble was keep his eyes down field for WRs breaking open. Ben Rapen used to do that a lot early on when he was less seasoned before he started hitting WRs/RBs/TEs breaking open after/while escaping pocket pressure.

    Potential red flags: Locking onto the primary target doesn't project one is ready to read progressions against more complicated NFL schemes. It also leads to turnovers as we saw. Starting only 1 year keeps a lot of questions in play for a potential investor.

    Potential buried treasure: Does not panic under pressure, which prepares him well for a line like our's. He's learned he needs to get rid of it quickly. Also, if someone drops a pass in the end zone - he proved he can overcome it with another accurate throw in the end zone. Big, strong, elusive and accurate doesn't suck either.

    If you invest in a QB - you have to protect your investment (with better surroundings/protection than the Coyote Ugly we have continued to give QBs here since 99). Look no further than the difference in settings that Goff and Prescott were given. Handing a young QB a 7-0 deficit every time he has his 1st possession doesn't help at all.

    Yup, Tom some good, some bad. Accuracy 10x better than Griffin. The first TD couldn't have been thrown any better. We saw he has the arm to toss a 50 yard bomb on target. Plenty mobile and good pocket awareness. The interceptions were bad. But what NFL QB hasn't tossed a pick 6 on a quick out? Maybe slightly disappointed, but if he declares he's a lock first rounder. Room to grow, if a team has patience to not start him day one. I'd go the Goff rout with him. 🙂
  • @gumby73 said:

    it's Mitch's bowl game day. Sun Bowl from Texas. 2PM EST. Hope Stanford can still score with no McCaffery. Mitch being forced to throw to play catch-up..yep, that fits his home team favorite Browns..

    MKC tweeted. . .

    #Browns Sashi Brown & Andrew Berry will attend the Sun Bowl in El Paso today to watch NC QB Mitch Trubisky of Mentor cleveland.com/browns/index.s…

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    Missed the game... the reviews don't seem to be all that kind...

    @canton-dawg said:

    MKC tweeted. . .
    #Browns Sashi Brown & Andrew Berry will attend the Sun Bowl in El Paso today to watch NC QB Mitch Trubisky of Mentor cleveland.com/browns/index.s…

    At least one was a scout...

  • Missed the game... the reviews don't seem to be all that kind...

    @canton-dawg said:

    MKC tweeted. . .
    #Browns Sashi Brown & Andrew Berry will attend the Sun Bowl in El Paso today to watch NC QB Mitch Trubisky of Mentor cleveland.com/browns/index.s…

    At least one was a scout...

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    At least one was a scout...

    Ha!.....to my relief......dont want Shashi scouting players......(at least not their on field skills)......

  • Missed the game... the reviews don't seem to be all that kind...

    @canton-dawg said:

    MKC tweeted. . .
    #Browns Sashi Brown & Andrew Berry will attend the Sun Bowl in El Paso today to watch NC QB Mitch Trubisky of Mentor cleveland.com/browns/index.s…

    At least one was a scout...

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Missed the game... the reviews don't seem to be all that kind...

    At least one was a scout...

    If they were expecting an Andrew Luck performance, the critism is justified.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Missed the game... the reviews don't seem to be all that kind...

    At least one was a scout...

    If they were expecting an Andrew Luck performance, the critism is justified.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by

    @hoorta said:

    If they were expecting an Andrew Luck performance, the critism is justified.

    what about expecting a #1 overall pick performance?

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    Bucky Brooks was simply expecting to see a QB play closer to his season's TD/INT ratio...

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000766419/article/rise-interrupted-mitch-trubisky-disappoints-in-sun-bowl

  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by

    IIRC, Derek Carr's bowl game wasn't very flattering either.

  • @hoorta said:

    If they were expecting an Andrew Luck performance, the critism is justified.

    what about expecting a #1 overall pick performance?

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta

    @mudfly said:

    what about expecting a #1 overall pick performance?

    Not sure. Left the door open though. As the NFL article said- far from a finished product. I like his upside. If we could get Garrett\Allen and Mitch, I'd be very happy. Don't even know yet if he'll declare or not, and if he does, the combine awaits. If he's in the draft, I can't see him falling out of the top 5. Of those teams, only the Jags might not be interested in a QB upgrade.

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone

    Have no fear..... Soon he will put on a pair of shorts and pull over a lycra tank top and dazzle everyone in attendance with his rocket arm and laser like precision - and if we're lucky, he may even run around the little orange cones really fast, which will further cement his #1 overall status.

  • Zombo said:

    Why? Because he's a homie?

    Zombo

    I have explained this. Because he is better than anyone that has come out in two years....and perhaps anyone that will come out in the next couple of years.

    And because you said it: the Browns need to quit fucking around and get a real QB. And this guy can be a real QB. Is he perfect? No....But then, since like 1970 there have been maybe10-12 better prospects that have come out better than him.

    Bradshaw, Elway, Bernie, Vinny, Peyton, Aikman, Newton, Luck, Winston

    He is a better prospect than the likes of Jeff George, Vick, Plunket, Stafford, Palmer, Smith, Couch, Bartkowski and a number of others.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    I have explained this. Because he is better than anyone that has come out in two years....and perhaps anyone that will come out in the next couple of years.

    And because you said it: the Browns need to quit fucking around and get a real QB. And this guy can be a real QB. Is he perfect? No....But then, since like 1970 there have been maybe10-12 better prospects that have come out better than him.

    No.

    Just no.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    Name the last successful NFL QB that started one season in college.

  • Have no fear..... Soon he will put on a pair of shorts and pull over a lycra tank top and dazzle everyone in attendance with his rocket arm and laser like precision - and if we're lucky, he may even run around the little orange cones really fast, which will further cement his #1 overall status.

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by LogicIsForSquares

    @d-bone said:

    Have no fear..... Soon he will put on a pair of shorts and pull over a lycra tank top and dazzle everyone in attendance with his rocket arm and laser like precision - and if we're lucky, he may even run around the little orange cones really fast, which will further cement his #1 overall status.

    He could do the combine with a bucket on his head. We are only concerned that he is local!

  • Name the last successful NFL QB that started one season in college.

    T Taco918 wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    Name the last successful NFL QB that started one season in college.

    That would be Cam but he player JuCo so not sure if that counts or not.

    The other two with only 1 year of experience off the top of my head are Akili Smith and Mark Sanchez.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Name the last successful NFL QB that started one season in college.

    That would be Cam but he player JuCo so not sure if that counts or not.

    The other two with only 1 year of experience off the top of my head are Akili Smith and Mark Sanchez.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by

    @taco918 said:

    That would be Cam but he player JuCo so not sure if that counts or not.

    The other two with only 1 year of experience off the top of my head are Akili Smith and Mark Sanchez.

    Cam was only a 1 year starter. But he's also a freak of nature. Sanchez played more than one season.

    *2007

    Southern California Pac-10 SO QB 8 69 114 60.5 695 6.1 5.4 7 5 123.2 *2008 Southern California Pac-10 JR QB 13 241 366 65.8 3207 8.8 9.4 34 10 164.6
  • @taco918 said:

    That would be Cam but he player JuCo so not sure if that counts or not.

    The other two with only 1 year of experience off the top of my head are Akili Smith and Mark Sanchez.

    Cam was only a 1 year starter. But he's also a freak of nature. Sanchez played more than one season.

    *2007

    Southern California Pac-10 SO QB 8 69 114 60.5 695 6.1 5.4 7 5 123.2 *2008 Southern California Pac-10 JR QB 13 241 366 65.8 3207 8.8 9.4 34 10 164.6
    T Taco918 wrote on last edited by

    @mark-o said:

    Cam was only a 1 year starter. But he's also a freak of nature. Sanchez played more than one season.

    *2007 Southern California Pac-10 SO QB 8 69 114 60.5 695 6.1 5.4 7 5 123.2 *2008 Southern California Pac-10 JR QB 13 241 366 65.8 3207 8.8 9.4 34 10 164.6

    Looks like the illustrious John David Booty played a majority of the 07 season.

    So Sanchez started one full year.