Thinking about the draft, first two picks...arguing with myself...

[Tour2ma]

@gumby73 said:

Who is the Jets QB? Fitz still? Am thinking Chip owes us a Xmas present this weekend & upsets the Jets at home..

Petty has gotten the last two starts. Jets seeing what they have. Hackenberg will likely get a couple as well.

Petty, my 2014 sleeper, has looked like an erratic rookie, but lord he throws a pretty, tight spiral. I'd give a conditional 6th for him.

[miktoxic]

@calfoxwc said:

Barnidge - average to -1 because of blocking skills

Pryor - average as a number one WR and we've seen him not even complete the season yet. i'm still convinced if the opposing DC thought any real threat from the browns he'd be 2x teamed and his #s would go out the window so..

Danny Shelton - my fave out of this bunch +2

Duke Johnson - sucks

Collins - +2 good luck signing the guy

Kirksey - i like. +1

Meder - who?

Ogbah - unproven still

Colquitt - uh, a punter? really?

Coleman - unproven

Davis - who?

Collins - you like him so much you typed his name twice?

Bitonio - i like but you have to be available so - average

Nassib - unless he hits the weight room and the ponderosa steak house every night instead of taking PEDs then maybe but he's go no strength up top ...yet so -1

come on, man.

i know cal, come on. look at those players and tell me they would rank out high on some other teams roster. don't hate them at all, just saying it ain't no all-star squad.

[The Gipper]

@miktoxic said:

the running joke in NY sports talk now is that the browns look at the jets and go "at least we're not the jets."

their qb situation is as bad as ours, if not worse, but they do have some serious talent at certain positions..........more than i can say about the browns outside of thomas and a slowed haden.

if we win a game and lose out on the consensus #1, whoever it is, then this season has really been fucking all for naught and will shine more light on the FO and franchise questioning whether or not they know what the fuck they're doing.

now if they don't want the #1 pick then who cares?

And if Trubisky were available when the Jets draft, do you think for a moment they would not take him?

[miktoxic]

i'm not arguing a player or position at this point. just wondering why we would want to win a game (i get the WIN A GAME thing...but) if the whole point of this suck ass season was to secure the number one pick. i don't care if you're the GM and have to pick up your cell phone and call the sidelines.....

[Mudfly]

@miktoxic said:

...but) if the whole point of this suck ass season was to secure the number one pick....

It wasn't....and thats the rub....

The whole point was to eliminate the guys we "knew" weren't the answer......and they were successful there.....cutting half team has a way of cleaning things up....

But the second part of the equation was to...

1) Draft better players who would have a more immediate impact than in past drafts....

2) Play those players right away, to expedite their development....

3) sacrifice some wins for the excitement of watching these young guys play and grow as a team...

And...in re to this second part???.....pretty big fail....

[Tour2ma]

All true, but 12.5 games into an 0-fer... I think I can handle 3.5 more.

[Mudfly]

@tour2ma said:

All true, but 12.5 games into an 0-fer... I think I can handle 3.5 more.

yep....im numb too....

[TexasAg1969]

Well at least the Eagles lost too.

[Mudfly]

@texasag1969 said:

Well at least the Eagles lost too.

ahhh....the little victories.....

Ill take it

[gumby73]

49ers up 14-0 on Jets could get us the Dawgie less double with Philly lost. The Philly pick I still see 2 good CB's with return skills in Adoree Jackson or King from Iowa, Adams at LSU is hanging by a thread

[tiamat63]

When looking at potential DB's, about the last thing I care for is their return ability.

[Tour2ma]

True, but they are easier to find than return men who can cover one-on-one...