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Haslam Pledges to "Stay the Course" in Recent Full Staff Meeting

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  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #19

    2013 was Joe Banner with 5 picks,which Mingo & Ant. Bryant are gone in 16. Farmer had 6 picks in 2014, remaining is Bitonio & Kirksey. Farmer had 12 picks in 2015. remaining Shelton,Erving,Duke,Orchard,X.Cooper,I.Campell & Telfer....Maybe 2.5 real NFL starters. out of 23 picks..No Anna & Lynics needed here..With 26? picks in next 2 Drafts..This group better have a better plan than last Draft..LIKE not passing on TALENT & Go Up & Get Some..

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends
    nickersN T 2 Replies
  • gumby73G gumby73

    2013 was Joe Banner with 5 picks,which Mingo & Ant. Bryant are gone in 16. Farmer had 6 picks in 2014, remaining is Bitonio & Kirksey. Farmer had 12 picks in 2015. remaining Shelton,Erving,Duke,Orchard,X.Cooper,I.Campell & Telfer....Maybe 2.5 real NFL starters. out of 23 picks..No Anna & Lynics needed here..With 26? picks in next 2 Drafts..This group better have a better plan than last Draft..LIKE not passing on TALENT & Go Up & Get Some..

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #20

    @gumby73 said:

    2013 was Joe Banner with 5 picks,which Mingo & Ant. Bryant are gone in 16. Farmer had 6 picks in 2014, remaining is Bitonio & Kirksey. Farmer had 12 picks in 2015. remaining Shelton,Erving,Duke,Orchard,X.Cooper,I.Campell & Telfer....Maybe 2.5 real NFL starters. out of 23 picks..No Anna & Lynics needed here..With 26? picks in next 2 Drafts..This group better have a better plan than last Draft..LIKE not passing on TALENT & Go Up & Get Some..

    Totally agree!

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • D Dawgs89 wrote on
    #21

    Better question is how does this organization keep it's once loyal fan base intact? I've never seen the apathy at this level. It will be interesting to see who would consider renewing tickets, plus remain a fan. I'll always be a fan.

    hoortaH Z flyingfooldougF 3 Replies
  • D Dawgs89

    Better question is how does this organization keep it's once loyal fan base intact? I've never seen the apathy at this level. It will be interesting to see who would consider renewing tickets, plus remain a fan. I'll always be a fan.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #22

    @dawgs89 said:

    Better question is how does this organization keep it's once loyal fan base intact? I've never seen the apathy at this level. It will be interesting to see who would consider renewing tickets, plus remain a fan. I'll always be a fan.

    I've addressed that in another thread. MHO is season ticket holders in the upper nosebleed sections will have no incentive to renew, as they'll easily be able to get essentially the same seats back in a few years should the Browns start winning. OTOH, the 100 level is another story, as is the lower Dawg Pound. Those seats are valuable, generally held by 30 year+ season ticket holders, and couldn't be replaced, short of laying out a ton of cash to buy back in. Plus (and I hate this) way to many fans in the lower level would rather put them on Stub Hub or NFL Ticket Exchange and sell them off to opposing fans instead of bothering to actually show up themselves for the game. In a way I can't blame them. Why freeze your ass off late season watching lousy football, when you can watch it at home on the widescreen?

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #23

    When those that abandon their season rights can't get back in when the winning starts, they'll have something else to bitch about.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #24

    Or they can thank god they didn't waste their time money and effort trying to act like they're having a great time as the opposing teams beat the piss out of the browns. Might even save some fans from divorce or jail.

    See i'm learning from you, there's an upside to everything!

  • gumby73G gumby73

    2013 was Joe Banner with 5 picks,which Mingo & Ant. Bryant are gone in 16. Farmer had 6 picks in 2014, remaining is Bitonio & Kirksey. Farmer had 12 picks in 2015. remaining Shelton,Erving,Duke,Orchard,X.Cooper,I.Campell & Telfer....Maybe 2.5 real NFL starters. out of 23 picks..No Anna & Lynics needed here..With 26? picks in next 2 Drafts..This group better have a better plan than last Draft..LIKE not passing on TALENT & Go Up & Get Some..

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #25

    @gumby73 said:

    This group better have a better plan than last Draft..LIKE not passing on TALENT & Go Up & Get Some..

    What makes you think we will not repeat next year? Wasn't the plan to build more picks and win with quantity? Wasn't that how depot did it in baseball? And have they signaled a different way other than "stay the course"?

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    When those that abandon their season rights can't get back in when the winning starts, they'll have something else to bitch about.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #26

    @tour2ma said:

    When those that abandon their season rights can't get back in when the winning starts, they'll have something else to bitch about.

    If they start winning will the games still be on TV?

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • T TexasAg1969

    @gumby73 said:

    This group better have a better plan than last Draft..LIKE not passing on TALENT & Go Up & Get Some..

    What makes you think we will not repeat next year? Wasn't the plan to build more picks and win with quantity? Wasn't that how depot did it in baseball? And have they signaled a different way other than "stay the course"?

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #27

    @texasag1969 said:

    What makes you think we will not repeat next year? Wasn't the plan to build more picks and win with quantity?

    They now have "quantity" so there's that... otherwise the plan is the same, but not having to trade down to accumulate picks means they don't have to pass on "talent".

    Also spending a late third in an in-season trade is "different"... so difference is in the air.

    Add that one-year's feedback has nearly completed "the loop" and adjustments should be expected.

    But expecting to "go up & get some" is an adjustment too far... at least for 2017.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    When those that abandon their season rights can't get back in when the winning starts, they'll have something else to bitch about.

    If they start winning will the games still be on TV?

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #28

    @the-gipper said:

    If they start winning will the games still be on TV?

    If TV was a good enough a game experience would they have bought season tix to begin with?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @the-gipper said:

    If they start winning will the games still be on TV?

    If TV was a good enough a game experience would they have bought season tix to begin with?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #29

    @tour2ma said:

    If TV was a good enough a game experience would they have bought season tix to begin with?

    Its all a matter of perspective.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #30

    And that perspective is?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    And that perspective is?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #31

    @tour2ma said:

    And that perspective is?

    That the viewing experience for many or most is superior when sitting on their couch, watching on TV than it is sitting in the stadium.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    And that perspective is?

    That the viewing experience for many or most is superior when sitting on their couch, watching on TV than it is sitting in the stadium.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #32

    @the-gipper said:

    That the viewing experience for many or most is superior when sitting on their couch, watching on TV than it is sitting in the stadium.

    Ah... so you never read my original, one-sentence reply in full... Got it...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @the-gipper said:

    That the viewing experience for many or most is superior when sitting on their couch, watching on TV than it is sitting in the stadium.

    Ah... so you never read my original, one-sentence reply in full... Got it...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #33

    @tour2ma said:

    Ah... so you never read my original, one-sentence reply in full... Got it...

    Apparently you didn't read my reply.....as you said that for season ticket holders that the in game experience may be the ultimate experience and that is why they bought those season tickets. For others, that experience may not be so "ultimate". They prefer to stay home.

    Ya follow?

  • nickersN nickers

    @londonbrown said:

    Because firing people has made the Browns win?

    And keeping dumb fucks has?

    W wargograw wrote on
    #34

    @nickers said:

    And keeping dumb fucks has?

    Can't think of any we've actually kept. Feel free to enlighten us. Everyone's gotten fired.

  • D Dawgs89

    Better question is how does this organization keep it's once loyal fan base intact? I've never seen the apathy at this level. It will be interesting to see who would consider renewing tickets, plus remain a fan. I'll always be a fan.

    Z Zombo wrote on
    #35

    @dawgs89 said:

    Better question is how does this organization keep it's once loyal fan base intact? I've never seen the apathy at this level. It will be interesting to see who would consider renewing tickets, plus remain a fan. I'll always be a fan.

    I would think most fans had enough foresight to realize THIS was the rough season and it's only going to get better.

    If you held on to your tickets this year, when you KNEW they were going to suck ... why abandon now when the plan begins to to start to fruition?

    Zombo

    T hoortaH 2 Replies
  • Z Zombo

    @dawgs89 said:

    Better question is how does this organization keep it's once loyal fan base intact? I've never seen the apathy at this level. It will be interesting to see who would consider renewing tickets, plus remain a fan. I'll always be a fan.

    I would think most fans had enough foresight to realize THIS was the rough season and it's only going to get better.

    If you held on to your tickets this year, when you KNEW they were going to suck ... why abandon now when the plan begins to to start to fruition?

    Zombo

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #36

    Zombo said:

    I would think most fans had enough foresight to realize THIS was the rough season and it's only going to get better.

    If you held on to your tickets this year, when you KNEW they were going to suck ... why abandon now when the plan begins to to start to fruition?

    Zombo

    Prolly the shock of 0-16 vs. maybe an expected 3-13 takes time to assimilate.

  • T TexasAg1969

    Zombo said:

    I would think most fans had enough foresight to realize THIS was the rough season and it's only going to get better.

    If you held on to your tickets this year, when you KNEW they were going to suck ... why abandon now when the plan begins to to start to fruition?

    Zombo

    Prolly the shock of 0-16 vs. maybe an expected 3-13 takes time to assimilate.

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on
    #37

    @texasag1969 said:

    Prolly the shock of 0-16 vs. maybe an expected 3-13 takes time to assimilate.

    I knew the Browns were going to suck going into this year, but not quite this bad.

    BUT, when you take a step back and look at things, 0-16 isn't too far removed from 3-13.

    At this point of the season, will winning a meaningless game change anything?

    If it gives us a chance to improve our draft stock...so be it.

    0-16 here we come!

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #38

    0-16 is fine if everyone knew that was the plan.

    but to think that they might draft better and look more productive in basic categories: blocking, tackling, catching, running and discipline then it's a bigger fail than in past regimes coming in after a clean sweep.

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