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  • @wargograw said:

    Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @mudfly said:

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @wargograw said:

    He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

  • @mudfly said:

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @wargograw said:

    He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    @mudfly said:

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    Williams sucks, get over it

  • @mudfly said:

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    Williams sucks, get over it

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Williams sucks, get over it

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Williams sucks, get over it

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    I'll answer.... It's because they're assholes. That's pretty much it.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Williams sucks, get over it

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    I think we're all interested to hear your working theories. "They're a bunch of idiots" doesn't qualify as a good one.

  • @mudfly said:

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @wargograw said:

    He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    @mudfly said:

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    So if "all of em, actually" use IR, why didn't the Bears?

    As usual............................................................no reply to the question or point being made.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Williams sucks, get over it

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    The real discussion is why does it matter how we handled a CB who's not playing in the league and was mediocre at best before that.

  • @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    The real discussion is why does it matter how we handled a CB who's not playing in the league and was mediocre at best before that.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The real discussion is why does it matter how we handled a CB who's not playing in the league and was mediocre at best before that.

    Because if it were handled badly, it might put other players off coming here - not UDFAs looking for *any* chance in the league, but guys with some freedom of choice maybe.

  • @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    I think we're all interested to hear your working theories. "They're a bunch of idiots" doesn't qualify as a good one.

    @wargograw said:

    I think we're all interested to hear your working theories. "They're a bunch of idiots" doesn't qualify as a good one.

    Ive already said I have no clue.....trying to seek the answer through discussion(which is what you're always bitchin we should do)....but apparently you have no clue either.....

    @wargograw said:

    So if "all of em, actually" use IR, why didn't the Bears?

    As usual............................................................no reply to the question or point being made.

    because they needed a CB now and he needed surgery?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The real discussion is why does it matter how we handled a CB who's not playing in the league and was mediocre at best before that.

    now that I think about it....the team is so bad that I guess it doesnt matter....no one even cares anymore..... we've got so much talent we can afford to cut and chop anyone we like.....or dont....

    Kind of like stealing a nickle from a homeless guy....one person says it's wrong.....someone else says "who cares" ...he's homeless and it's only a nickle.....

    @gftchris said:

    Because if it were handled badly, it might put other players off coming here - not UDFAs looking for *any* chance in the league, but guys with some freedom of choice maybe.

    exactly.....thanks for seeing it Chris.....

  • I see it, I'm just not sure I see it, if you follow.

  • Right...im moving on from Kwaun.....was honestly curious about that situation, but seem to be the only one.....

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The real discussion is why does it matter how we handled a CB who's not playing in the league and was mediocre at best before that.

    Because if it were handled badly, it might put other players off coming here - not UDFAs looking for *any* chance in the league, but guys with some freedom of choice maybe.

    @gftchris said:

    Because if it were handled badly, it might put other players off coming here - not UDFAs looking for *any* chance in the league, but guys with some freedom of choice maybe.

    don't think J.Taylor or Collins or Andy Lee turning into Colquit & a 4th got freedom of choice, but I like the way this FO is turning PICKS into TRADES on guys we would normally never get a sniff at..we do save some cap on cutting RG3 in 2017 & McC is not on Hues Xmas List in future, ssoooo a pending pre or draft trade on a QB may not be out of their Harvard House Cleaning if Hue's on board with it also..

  • @gftchris said:

    Because if it were handled badly, it might put other players off coming here - not UDFAs looking for *any* chance in the league, but guys with some freedom of choice maybe.

    don't think J.Taylor or Collins or Andy Lee turning into Colquit & a 4th got freedom of choice, but I like the way this FO is turning PICKS into TRADES on guys we would normally never get a sniff at..we do save some cap on cutting RG3 in 2017 & McC is not on Hues Xmas List in future, ssoooo a pending pre or draft trade on a QB may not be out of their Harvard House Cleaning if Hue's on board with it also..

    @gumby73 said:

    ssoooo a pending pre/draft trade on a QB maynot be out of their Harvard House Cleaning if Hue's on board with it also..

    I worry about Hues QB assessments....as a HC he has drfted and signed Pryor, RGIII and Kessler....youch

  • Gotta throw Hogan in too.

  • all i know is that this is a divisive a topic as the country is divisive on every topic right now. some see positives with this FO even with this debacle of a season (?) and some are realists, like me.

    all i know is if i hear foundation players after next year's draft i'm gonna............. do nothin really. just be pissed like i am now.

  • @gumby73 said:

    ssoooo a pending pre/draft trade on a QB maynot be out of their Harvard House Cleaning if Hue's on board with it also..

    I worry about Hues QB assessments....as a HC he has drfted and signed Pryor, RGIII and Kessler....youch

    @mudfly said:

    I worry about Hues QB assessments....as a HC he has drfted and signed Pryor, RGIII and Kessler....youch

    (could have been Kap 😮)those Luck's & Yota's types would never fall to sorry teams like us, but Carr did & Dak did...it's Our Time for a little Magic Sashi "BullWinkle" Brown....POOOOOFF!!! (he's out there somewhere again, Spin the wheel)

  • @mudfly said:

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    So if "all of em, actually" use IR, why didn't the Bears?

    As usual............................................................no reply to the question or point being made.

    @wargograw said:

    So if "all of em, actually" use IR, why didn't the Bears?

    @mudfly said:

    because they needed a CB now and he needed surgery?

    Can I play, too?

    I see a legitimate and sizable difference between:

    • IR'ing a rostered player, one in whom you have made a financial investment, who requires surgery; and
    • signing a player knowing he will go straight to your IR.

    The former follows thru on an on-going commitment. The latter takes on a burden.

  • Still, if he was this great talent, it would have been worth it. I mean, if JJ Watt gets cut and we get him off waivers, I'm pretty much positive no one would be too bothered that he has to go straight to IR.

    Mud, I think the lack of good theories indicates to us there was more to the story, so we should let the FO be. As you pointed out, K'Waun was a perfect player for us. That tells me that this FO wouldn't let him go without a good reason.

  • That's your rebuttal? JJ Watt?

  • Obviously an extreme example. My point is that I (and Mud probably) believe K'Waun, when healthy, is a pretty supreme talent. Most teams would like to have him. So the fact that Chicago didn't put him on IR so they could keep him in their organization tells me there's something else in the works other than what's on the surface. Don't know what it is.