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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #4

    Here are my Top 5:

    Peyton

    Elway

    Bradshaw

    Aikman

    Namath

    And my bottom 5:

    Garrett

    Baker

    Russell

    Duncan

    Dancewisz

    Russell may be the worst...as the others all went back to the 50s (or 1962 in Baker's case) Scouting has supposed to have improved tremendously since then.

    A number are far to soon to tell: Luck, Newton, Winston, even Stafford etc.

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #5

    00-09 - 7 QBs taken with the #1 overall

    Next closest decade: the current one, 5 QBs taken with #1 overall since 2010

    Every other decade has had 4 or less with the exception of the 50s. I thought the list was longer than that.

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    5 best:

    Peyon Manning

    John Elway

    Terry Bradshaw

    Troy Aikman

    Andrew Luck

    5 worst:

    Jamarcus Russell

    David Carr

    Terry Baker

    Randy Duncan

    Tim Couch

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #6

    @bbedward said:

    5 best:

    Peyon Manning

    John Elway

    Terry Bradshaw

    Troy Aikman

    Andrew Luck

    5 worst:

    Jamarcus Russell

    David Carr

    Terry Baker

    Randy Duncan

    Tim Couch

    Couch's career cut short by injury. Carr's by just a shit team.

    I would probably take either of them over Bradford or a Jeff George.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @bbedward said:

    5 best:

    Peyon Manning

    John Elway

    Terry Bradshaw

    Troy Aikman

    Andrew Luck

    5 worst:

    Jamarcus Russell

    David Carr

    Terry Baker

    Randy Duncan

    Tim Couch

    Couch's career cut short by injury. Carr's by just a shit team.

    I would probably take either of them over Bradford or a Jeff George.

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #7

    @the-gipper said:

    Couch's career cut short by injury. Carr's by just a shit team.

    I would probably take either of them over Bradford or a Jeff George.

    I thought about subbing Bradford for Couch, but idk much about Jeff George - so I didn't pick him

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    00-09 - 7 QBs taken with the #1 overall

    Next closest decade: the current one, 5 QBs taken with #1 overall since 2010

    Every other decade has had 4 or less with the exception of the 50s. I thought the list was longer than that.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #8

    @bbedward said:

    00-09 - 7 QBs taken with the #1 overall

    Next closest decade: the current one, 5 QBs taken with #1 overall since 2010

    Every other decade has had 4 or less with the exception of the 50s. I thought the list was longer than that.

    Well, as I have been saying...it is the premium set on QBs recently. I do not think that trend will discontinue.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #9

    And then How about this. Here is the list of QBs taken with the #2 overall pick since 1936. A shorter list:

    1939 Sid Luckman

    1949 John Rauch

    1950 Adrian Burke

    1951 Bob Williams

    1954 Lamar McHan

    1956 Earl Morrall

    1960 George Izo

    1961 Norm Snead

    1962 Roman Gabriel

    1964 Pete Beatherd AFL

    1966 Rick Norton AFL

    1971 Archie Manning

    1973 Bert Jones

    1993 Rick Mirer

    1998 Ryan Leaf

    1999 Donovan McNabb

    2012 Robert Griffin

    2015 Marcus Mariota

    2016 Carson Wentz

    Only HOF was the first guy taken.

    Of the 19 so far, only 7 can be said to have solid careers: Luckman, Morrall, Snead, Gabriel, Archie, Jones, McNabb.

    Griffin looks a bust. Too soon on Mariota/Wentz

    Moral of the story: get your QB at #1 rather than #2 if you can.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #10

    Next: here are the QBs taken at #3 overall:

    1948 Bobby Layne HOF

    1953 Jack Scarbath

    1957 John Brodie

    1967 Steve Spurrier

    1970 Mike Phipps

    1971 Dan Pastorini

    1979 Jack Thompson

    1986 Jim Everett

    1994 Heath Shuler

    1995 Steve McNair

    1999 Akili Smith

    2002 Joey Harrington

    2006 Vince Young

    2008 Matt Ryan

    2014 Blake Bortles

    Only about a third of these guys have had solid careers: Layne, Brodie, Pastorini Everett, McNair, Ryan. Too soon on Bortles to say.

  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #11

    1944 Angelo Bertelli


    1946 Bobby Dancewicz


    1948 Harry Gilmer


    1952 Billy Wade


    1954 Bobby Garrett


    1955 George Shaw


    1958 King Hill


    1959 Randy Duncan


    1962 AFL Roman Gabriel


    1963 Terry Baker


    1964 AFL Jack Concannon


    1965 AFL Joe Namath


    1970 Terry Bradshaw


    1971 Jim Plunkett


    1975 Steve Bartkowski


    1983 John Elway


    1987 Vinny Testaverde


    1989 Troy Aikman


    1990 Jeff George


    1993 Drew Bledsoe


    1998 Peyton Manning


    1999 Tim Couch


    2001 Michael Vick


    2002 David Carr


    2003 Carson Palmer


    2004 Eli Manning


    2005 Alex Smith


    2007 Jamarcus Russell


    2009 Matt Stafford


    2010 Sam Bradford


    2011 Cam Newton


    2012 Andrew Luck


    2015 Jameis Winston


    2016 Jared Goff



    Best


    Manning


    Elway


    Aikman


    Bradshaw


    Namath



    Worst


    Russell


    Duncan


    Hill


    Garrett


    Dancewicz


  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #12

    Maybe it is unfair to take the list from the time of the beginning of the draft. Lets say we limit it to just "since 1960"

    The Top 5 of mine would not change:

    Peyton

    Elway

    Bradshaw

    Aikman

    Namath

    Bottom 5?:

    Baker

    Russell

    Concannon

    George

    Carr

    (again, I am giving Couch a pass due to injury)

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #13

    Easy....

    Best: P. Manning

    Worst: Russell

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Easy....

    Best: P. Manning

    Worst: Russell

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #14

    @tour2ma said:

    Easy....

    Best: P. Manning

    Worst: Russell

    Not that easy.....as much as I would like to kick his teeth in I may still take Elway.

    Even just going back to 1960....Baker was an equal or bigger bust than Russell.

    So, there IS some argument.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    Easy....

    Best: P. Manning

    Worst: Russell

    Not that easy.....as much as I would like to kick his teeth in I may still take Elway.

    Even just going back to 1960....Baker was an equal or bigger bust than Russell.

    So, there IS some argument.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #15

    @the-gipper said:

    So, there IS always some argument.

    FIFY

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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