Joe Thomas selected to his 10th consecutive Pro Bowl
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The Golden Boyz were talking about JT today. Goldhammer was trying to question his position as an all time great Brown because he has never been to the playoffs. He also said something about how Orlando Pace played in a Superbowl.
I understand that Goldhammer is a malignant narcissist who has made a living off of trolling Browns fans, but this one is just too obvious. How the hell is it Joe's fault that the Browns have spent his entire career looking for a viable QB? I guess a guy who didn't earn his job on his own merit would be the type of guy to confuse football with golf.
The Golden Boyz were talking about JT today. Goldhammer was trying to question his position as an all time great Brown because he has never been to the playoffs. He also said something about how Orlando Pace played in a Superbowl.
I understand that Goldhammer is a malignant narcissist who has made a living off of trolling Browns fans, but this one is just too obvious. How the hell is it Joe's fault that the Browns have spent his entire career looking for a viable QB? I guess a guy who didn't earn his job on his own merit would be the type of guy to confuse football with golf.
I agree Thomas is an all-time Brown. What I don't understand is why he hasn't asked to be traded behind the scenes. I guess I kinda question why a professional athlete who is competitive would resign himself to being a perennial loser when he could go to a team with a chance of winning. It just seems odd.
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The Golden Boyz were talking about JT today. Goldhammer was trying to question his position as an all time great Brown because he has never been to the playoffs. He also said something about how Orlando Pace played in a Superbowl.
I understand that Goldhammer is a malignant narcissist who has made a living off of trolling Browns fans, but this one is just too obvious. How the hell is it Joe's fault that the Browns have spent his entire career looking for a viable QB? I guess a guy who didn't earn his job on his own merit would be the type of guy to confuse football with golf.
I agree Thomas is an all-time Brown. What I don't understand is why he hasn't asked to be traded behind the scenes. I guess I kinda question why a professional athlete who is competitive would resign himself to being a perennial loser when he could go to a team with a chance of winning. It just seems odd.
I agree Thomas is an all-time Brown. What I don't understand is why he hasn't asked to be traded behind the scenes. I guess I kinda question why a professional athlete who is competitive would resign himself to being a perennial loser when he could go to a team with a chance of winning. It just seems odd.
odd how ? and who are to question someone's character
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The Golden Boyz were talking about JT today. Goldhammer was trying to question his position as an all time great Brown because he has never been to the playoffs. He also said something about how Orlando Pace played in a Superbowl.
I understand that Goldhammer is a malignant narcissist who has made a living off of trolling Browns fans, but this one is just too obvious. How the hell is it Joe's fault that the Browns have spent his entire career looking for a viable QB? I guess a guy who didn't earn his job on his own merit would be the type of guy to confuse football with golf.
I agree Thomas is an all-time Brown. What I don't understand is why he hasn't asked to be traded behind the scenes. I guess I kinda question why a professional athlete who is competitive would resign himself to being a perennial loser when he could go to a team with a chance of winning. It just seems odd.
I agree Thomas is an all-time Brown. What I don't understand is why he hasn't asked to be traded behind the scenes. I guess I kinda question why a professional athlete who is competitive would resign himself to being a perennial loser when he could go to a team with a chance of winning. It just seems odd.
You know, I've often questioned the so-called "will to win" when it comes to a lot of guys in professional sports in general. It's easy to have that passion and what not when you are in high school and even college because it's not about the money. But seriously, think about it-Joe Thomas is loved (rightly) by us here in Cleveland. The guy is on pace to make well over $100 million dollars in this professional career. The guy gets to take less of a beating and have more time off to golf in FL or w/e the fuck he wants to do. All the while by not being a dude who demands a trade looks awesome to everyone.
That's not a bad gig if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the guy is not a competitor. I just think that "competition" aspect changes a lot when it becomes your profession and livelihood.
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Certainly will by your tenth season...
But you can see that Joe's "inner kid" is alive and well in most interviews. I am sure that kid still loves the game. There's also no doubt in my mind that he is justifiably proud of his effort/performance week in and out. No better evidence of either than his start streak during which we know he has played thru both injury and pain.
That kind of personal make-up can sustain a player through a lot of team-level, hard times.
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Certainly will by your tenth season...
But you can see that Joe's "inner kid" is alive and well in most interviews. I am sure that kid still loves the game. There's also no doubt in my mind that he is justifiably proud of his effort/performance week in and out. No better evidence of either than his start streak during which we know he has played thru both injury and pain.
That kind of personal make-up can sustain a player through a lot of team-level, hard times.
Certainly will by your tenth season...
But you can see that Joe's "inner kid" is alive and well in most interviews. I am sure that kid still loves the game. There's also no doubt in my mind that he is justifiably proud of his effort/performance week in and out. No better evidence of either than his start streak during which we know he has played thru both injury and pain.
That kind of personal make-up can sustain a player through a lot of team-level, hard times.
Oh, about 2000 some odd years ago they would have called him Peter.
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I agree Thomas is an all-time Brown. What I don't understand is why he hasn't asked to be traded behind the scenes. I guess I kinda question why a professional athlete who is competitive would resign himself to being a perennial loser when he could go to a team with a chance of winning. It just seems odd.
You know, I've often questioned the so-called "will to win" when it comes to a lot of guys in professional sports in general. It's easy to have that passion and what not when you are in high school and even college because it's not about the money. But seriously, think about it-Joe Thomas is loved (rightly) by us here in Cleveland. The guy is on pace to make well over $100 million dollars in this professional career. The guy gets to take less of a beating and have more time off to golf in FL or w/e the fuck he wants to do. All the while by not being a dude who demands a trade looks awesome to everyone.
That's not a bad gig if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the guy is not a competitor. I just think that "competition" aspect changes a lot when it becomes your profession and livelihood.
You know, I've often questioned the so-called "will to win" when it comes to a lot of guys in professional sports in general. It's easy to have that passion and what not when you are in high school and even college because it's not about the money. But seriously, think about it-Joe Thomas is loved (rightly) by us here in Cleveland. The guy is on pace to make well over $100 million dollars in this professional career. The guy gets to take less of a beating and have more time off to golf in FL or w/e the fuck he wants to do. All the while by not being a dude who demands a trade looks awesome to everyone.
That's not a bad gig if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the guy is not a competitor. I just think that "competition" aspect changes a lot when it becomes your profession and livelihood.
I've never been in his position but I look at so many other pro-athletes who have chased the ring and Joe doesn't even seem to want to chase the playoffs. I'm not saying he isn't a good guy but it just seems counterintuitive to me. I've had the luxury of knowing a couple of guys who made it to the highest level at their sport and the common theme is the drive to win.
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I do think it's great he wants to stick with the Browns, I hope the Browns can turn it around before he retires. He is for sure one of the best football players on the Browns and a great person, but sometimes I think he's a bit too nice.
There have been many times when the Browns were getting stomped, and the camera cuts to Joe Thomas laughing on the sidelines. That gets me. I understand the value of keeping morale up, but come on. A little competitive fire from a veteran would go a long way for this young team. Show that losing DOES matter and change this loser culture once and for all. I think it's that "nice guy" persona that is keeping him from trying to chase a ring though, so good for the Browns that they have at least some stability somewhere on the team.
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You know, I've often questioned the so-called "will to win" when it comes to a lot of guys in professional sports in general. It's easy to have that passion and what not when you are in high school and even college because it's not about the money. But seriously, think about it-Joe Thomas is loved (rightly) by us here in Cleveland. The guy is on pace to make well over $100 million dollars in this professional career. The guy gets to take less of a beating and have more time off to golf in FL or w/e the fuck he wants to do. All the while by not being a dude who demands a trade looks awesome to everyone.
That's not a bad gig if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the guy is not a competitor. I just think that "competition" aspect changes a lot when it becomes your profession and livelihood.
I've never been in his position but I look at so many other pro-athletes who have chased the ring and Joe doesn't even seem to want to chase the playoffs. I'm not saying he isn't a good guy but it just seems counterintuitive to me. I've had the luxury of knowing a couple of guys who made it to the highest level at their sport and the common theme is the drive to win.
I've never been in his position but I look at so many other pro-athletes who have chased the ring and Joe doesn't even seem to want to chase the playoffs. I'm not saying he isn't a good guy but it just seems counterintuitive to me. I've had the luxury of knowing a couple of guys who made it to the highest level at their sport and the common theme is the drive to win.
I mean he still has time to chase the ring though. Most guys who do what you're describing are in their last season or two, JT even at his age has 5-6 more seasons if he wants the way he keeps playing so well.
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I do think it's great he wants to stick with the Browns, I hope the Browns can turn it around before he retires. He is for sure one of the best football players on the Browns and a great person, but sometimes I think he's a bit too nice.
There have been many times when the Browns were getting stomped, and the camera cuts to Joe Thomas laughing on the sidelines. That gets me. I understand the value of keeping morale up, but come on. A little competitive fire from a veteran would go a long way for this young team. Show that losing DOES matter and change this loser culture once and for all. I think it's that "nice guy" persona that is keeping him from trying to chase a ring though, so good for the Browns that they have at least some stability somewhere on the team.
I do think it's great he wants to stick with the Browns, I hope the Browns can turn it around before he retires. He is for sure one of the best football players on the Browns and a great person, but sometimes I think he's a bit too nice.
There have been many times when the Browns were getting stomped, and the camera cuts to Joe Thomas laughing on the sidelines. That gets me. I understand the value of keeping morale up, but come on. A little competitive fire from a veteran would go a long way for this young team. Show that losing DOES matter and change this loser culture once and for all. I think it's that "nice guy" persona that is keeping him from trying to chase a ring though, so good for the Browns that they have at least some stability somewhere on the team.
Sorry for double post, but I don't really get that. The way the guy acts and plays is arguably the best all-time at the position. I'd clearly argue his cool demeanor is the reason he's been so rock solid for all these years. There's plenty of guys who can do that crazy nonsense, but I'm not changing a thing about JT as a dude or professional. It literally doesn't get any better than how he plays and acts.
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Pro bowl means I gotta have it love it means the world to me
woo hoo have a drink on me
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Don't change my words fuck face.
to late already did dumbass
oh and btw I will do whatever the fuck I want still got 2 warning points to go
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Don't change my words fuck face.
to late already did dumbass
oh and btw I will do whatever the fuck I want still got 2 warning points to go
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I dont get why people think Joe doesnt have drive or a will to win.....Id say just the opposite......when you perform at the very very top level of your profession every single year, without any off years or drop offs.....and maintain your body for 10 years of an NFL beating and never miss a play......and play through lots of injuries and losses and coaches and staff.....and maintain your professionalism and drive to be the best.....then Id call that a tremendous commitment to excellence and drive to be the best...
The fact that he doesnt want to leave the Browns and go to a "winner" only underlines his loyalty and values.....both as a team member and family man(because he regularly states he loves the community, lives here and doesnt want to drag his family around)....
To many people.....him leaving the Browns, only to play for winner would be more an indication of selfishness and lack of drive....to help HIS team get better....
Some walk away from a bad situation......but driven winners work to be part of the solution....
Example....Alex Mack....Since we all knew he was leaving and now that he has, I dont all of a sudden consider him to be more competitive or driven.....honestly.....I now see him as more of a quitter....who chose the easier path.....
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Nice
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Here's your fun Monday morning fact-
The two teams with the most snaps together on the offensive line last year? New England Patriots and the Atlanta Falcons.
Definitely doesn't matter though, not at all.
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* Sacks given up by the LT position has been top 5 in the league since he's been here.
* The guy has been surrounded by assholes. Look at the fucktards we've had at the skill positions since he was drafted. At first we were smart, drafted Braylon and Winslow. That turned to fucking shit because they were assholes.
Hillis - asshole
Gordon - asshole
Manziel - asshole
Among others....
The problem with the Browns has been the inability to draft and develop good talent at skill positions. Especially QB.
* We have been pretty good at developing OL talent but have been bad at keeping it around. I think Thomas has been a pretty great mentor to guys like Schwartz, Mack, Pasztor, and Bitonio. Guys that play beside him are getting pretty big paydays.
In general I think you're misdirecting your frustration with the Browns lack of success at Thomas, pretty much because other Browns fans have put him on a pedestal because he's been the one consistent bright spot on this team. He will be a first ballot HOF despite being stuck on a team that surrounds him with assholes and shit. I think he deserves a shit ton of credit for sticking around through this shit and keeping his head up and morale up while wading through 4 ft of shit. The guy deserves a fucking statue.
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