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What would you think of our top 3-4 picks going D

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  • F Frenchie wrote on last edited by

    Outside of the goalie in Hockey, no position in team sports exceeds the importance of a QB in football. And despite this importance, and with all sorts of analysis, analytics, and evaluation experts, too many top-selected QB's bomb while lower selected ones excel. Not all of them, but too many of them. This tells me that we have to stop thinking we can predetermine value at that position (too many intangibles, I guess) and keep picking them until we're satisfied that there are two or three good ones on the roster, one of which has the ability to be a top QB in this league. I'm not saying throughout all this analysis - what I am saying is that when you need a QB, and you're sitting with the #2 pick (last year), and a QB is seen as worthy of that pick, has the size, accuracy and arm strength you're looking for, take him!! Don't kid yourself into thinking you know they are going to be a top 30 QB but not top 15.

    No question in my mind that the lack of selection of Wentz was a mistake. I would have no problem with the Browns selecting a QB at #1 or #12 (not both) and sign a FA or keep RG3. Whatever it takes, as long as we keep trying until we get it right ... and we must get it right to compete.

  • Just having a little fun with my reaction...

    I will only say that if a team was ever in a BPA-ripe position, it looks to me it's us. Other than LT and NT what is really set?

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    I will only say that if a team was ever in a BPA-ripe position, it looks to me it's us. Other than LT and NT what is really set?

    Exactly.....when you need to improve at virtually every position.....that is the PRIME time for BPA....

    Passing on better talent in order to pick for a specific need is a loser move....

  • @frenchie said:

    Anyway, I think the Browns made a bad decision last year based on Hue's assessment of Wentz. Some people with the BPA concept might say that Cody in the third round was better value than Wentz in the first, but here we are at 1-15 still looking for a QB. We could tell by game one that Wentz could make all the throws and that the Browns made another massive mistake. If the FO get fired next year, that decision will have been the catalyst.

    Odd assessment considering how much Wentz struggled during the second half of the season.

    Sure, he looks to be better than what we have now, but the jury is still out on whether the Browns made a franchise altering mistake.

    With that being said, just because we NEED a position, doesn't mean our need aligns with a player currently available to make that significant impact. Nobody has been able to refute my Geno Smith reference yet.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    Odd assessment considering how much Wentz struggled during the second half of the season.

    Sure, he looks to be better than what we have now, but the jury is still out on whether the Browns made a franchise altering mistake.

    With that being said, just because we NEED a position, doesn't mean our need aligns with a player currently available to make that significant impact. Nobody has been able to refute my Geno Smith reference yet.

    What is your Geno Smith argument? He wasn't considered good enough to be a first round pick....even in a league that is QB desperate.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I will only say that if a team was ever in a BPA-ripe position, it looks to me it's us. Other than LT and NT what is really set?

    Exactly.....when you need to improve at virtually every position.....that is the PRIME time for BPA....

    Passing on better talent in order to pick for a specific need is a loser move....

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by

    @mudfly said:

    Exactly.....when you need to improve at virtually every position.....that is the PRIME time for BPA....

    Passing on better talent in order to pick for a specific need is a loser move....

    definitely.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    In here, there is a reference to my Bet with Stan.   I bet him that Trubisky would go in the Top 5 of the draft.....just peruse this thread.  The original bet may have been made in a different thread....but it is recounted here.

    In fact.....it appears that Zombo made the same bet with me.....so it looks like the BOTH owe me a pitcher of Margaritas.   See page 2.

    Also....Z has not yet cleaned out his PMs and I have not been able to get him my number.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    How about this: If he goes Top 5, then you have to bring Zoe and her sister to the party.

    And...see above: Z is supposed to bring a big titted broad with him to the Margarita party!!  (his present girlfriend is exempt however)