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  • B BaconHound

    I'm still on board with trading #1 to the 49ers for #2 & #34

    @baconhound said:

    I'm still on board with trading #1 to the 49ers for #2 & #34

    That could work. But why would the Niners do that to move up one spot? My theory would be so that the Browns would not trade it to the Bears/Tits...or some other team that may want to jump the 9ers for the player they want.

    But...who would that player be?

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @baconhound said:

    I'm still on board with trading #1 to the 49ers for #2 & #34

    That could work. But why would the Niners do that to move up one spot? My theory would be so that the Browns would not trade it to the Bears/Tits...or some other team that may want to jump the 9ers for the player they want.

    But...who would that player be?

    @the-gipper said:

    That could work. But why would the Niners do that to move up one spot? My theory would be so that the Browns would not trade it to the Bears/Tits...or some other team that may want to jump the 9ers for the player they want.

    But...who would that player be?

    I think 49ers are going QB and the Browns could go whacky and take their guy. The insurance might be worth it for the 49ers.

  • B BaconHound

    @the-gipper said:

    That could work. But why would the Niners do that to move up one spot? My theory would be so that the Browns would not trade it to the Bears/Tits...or some other team that may want to jump the 9ers for the player they want.

    But...who would that player be?

    I think 49ers are going QB and the Browns could go whacky and take their guy. The insurance might be worth it for the 49ers.

    @baconhound said:

    I think 49ers are going QB and the Browns could go whacky and take their guy. The insurance might be worth it for the 49ers.

    If that guy is Mitch Trubisky...then the Browns should go whacky and take their guy. πŸ˜‰

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @baconhound said:

    I think 49ers are going QB and the Browns could go whacky and take their guy. The insurance might be worth it for the 49ers.

    If that guy is Mitch Trubisky...then the Browns should go whacky and take their guy. πŸ˜‰

    @the-gipper said:

    If that guy is Mitch Trubisky...then the Browns should go whacky and take their guy. πŸ˜‰

    I wish I was as confident as you.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • P poplarbluffman

    last I looked QB's are sort of important...and this draft is filled with mid rd qb prospects and will likely need a late 1 for Garrappola..trading down for a mid #1 makes sense to fill your greatest need

    Donald didn't make the Rams a winning team and neither did Bosa make San Diego a Super Bowl team..till you fidna QB the Browns will keep losing.

    my question was fair but received a lot of scary stupid answers..hopefully the idiots will post elsewhere or I will

    @poplarbluffman said:

    last I looked QB's are sort of important...and this draft is filled with mid rd qb prospects and will likely need a late 1 for Garrappola..trading down for a mid #1 makes sense to fill your greatest need

    Donald didn't make the Rams a winning team and neither did Bosa make San Diego a Super Bowl team..till you fidna QB the Browns will keep losing.

    my question was fair but received a lot of scary stupid answers..hopefully the idiots will post elsewhere or I will

    Not sure two posts by one person constitutes "a lot".

    As for your approaches to posting and fixing the team... to each his own. Spending two, 1st-round picks on QBs this draft is not an approach I'd take.

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  • First pick in the draft should be an impact player right out of the gate. Just saying.

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  • P poplarbluffman

    last I looked QB's are sort of important...and this draft is filled with mid rd qb prospects and will likely need a late 1 for Garrappola..trading down for a mid #1 makes sense to fill your greatest need

    Donald didn't make the Rams a winning team and neither did Bosa make San Diego a Super Bowl team..till you fidna QB the Browns will keep losing.

    my question was fair but received a lot of scary stupid answers..hopefully the idiots will post elsewhere or I will

    @poplarbluffman said:

    last I looked QB's are sort of important...and this draft is filled with mid rd qb prospects and will likely need a late 1 for Garrappola..trading down for a mid #1 makes sense to fill your greatest need

    Donald didn't make the Rams a winning team and neither did Bosa make San Diego a Super Bowl team..till you fidna QB the Browns will keep losing.

    my question was fair but received a lot of scary stupid answers..hopefully the idiots will post elsewhere or I will

    Well, I see you need some education on what the Browns came up with going after "mid first round" quarterback prospects. Brady Quinn. Brandon Weeden. Johnny Manziel. That collective stink could fuel several garbage dumps. Other than Mitch Trubisky- who will go top five, there's not another qb in this draft I would touch in the first round. And that includes New England's wonder boy backup Garropolo.

    I'm not 100% sold on Garrett yet, but he sure looks like he can be the next Von Miller. Trading down has resulted in us missing on Kalil Mack (got bust Justin Gilbert instead) Julio Jones ( drafted Phil Taylor instead) Haloti Ngata (took Kam Wimbley instead). So FYI, the group think of the Browns fan base is- enough of this trade down crap. You have a stud at where you're picking- take the stud.

  • 7 of the next 10 picks after gilbert went to the pro bowl. Trading down was a great idea but farmer made a terrible selection

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  • A big NO to a trade down out of #1 - that's reserved for Myles Garrett. I'd actually prefer a trade UP from 12 to grab one of the two safeties or (licks his chops) Jonathan Allen.

  • garrett AND allen? jesus we'd have to give up quite a bit for that. Plus that leaves one hell of a traffic jam on the front line. We have other needs to fill on that defense let alone offense (QB?).

  • C Clevfan4life

    garrett AND allen? jesus we'd have to give up quite a bit for that. Plus that leaves one hell of a traffic jam on the front line. We have other needs to fill on that defense let alone offense (QB?).

    @clevfan4life said:

    garrett AND allen? jesus we'd have to give up quite a bit for that. Plus that leaves one hell of a traffic jam on the front line. We have other needs to fill on that defense let alone offense (QB?).

    No secondary. Get to the QB in under half a second and it doesn't matter who's playing receiver. a DL of Garrett-Bryant-Shelton-Meder-Allen-Ogbah backed up by Collins-Kirksey-Davis-Orchard. Probably should keep a strong safety in case the runner gets through.

  • B BaconHound

    I'm still on board with trading #1 to the 49ers for #2 & #34

    @baconhound said:

    I'm still on board with trading #1 to the 49ers for #2 & #34

    Id do it in a NY second.....

    Then Id take 12 and one of my 2nds and get inside the top 8 for my second pick....increasing the possibility of us getting 2 elite players......difference makers.....

  • Sure this is against the popular vote but this is a great draft to trade down in. I'd support a trade down as far as 5. We could likely make picks then at 5, 12 and somewhere around 17 to 20 using what we picked up in a trade up. In this draft that would be a big haul. Still would have pick 1 in the 2nd round too.

  • jcam222J jcam222

    Sure this is against the popular vote but this is a great draft to trade down in. I'd support a trade down as far as 5. We could likely make picks then at 5, 12 and somewhere around 17 to 20 using what we picked up in a trade up. In this draft that would be a big haul. Still would have pick 1 in the 2nd round too.

    @jcam222 said:

    Sure this is against the popular vote but this is a great draft to trade down in. I'd support a trade down as far as 5. We could likely make picks then at 5, 12 and somewhere around 17 to 20 using what we picked up in a trade up. In this draft that would be a big haul. Still would have pick 1 in the 2nd round too.

    absolutely....and #1 overall always gets a great price.....so a "short" trade back should net enough to add another 2nd, PLUS the ammo needed to move up from 12.....

    Would you prefer?

    picks # 1 ....12.....33.....52......Or, for example, something like....

    picks # 4.......7.....33....40....52......?

    With the players available this year.....Id take the second option......all day every day.....

  • Yeah, that second option would be pretty tempting. 2 of the top 5 defenders from this draft could go along way in getting this defense turned around in a hurry. If Greg Williams can motivate these young guys the way we all hope, we could be looking at a defensive improvement that could add 4-5 wins to the schedule.

  • stillmotionS stillmotion

    If we trade down to 15-22 and grab another medicore player i'll flip. take the best damn player available. It's not rocket science, maybe the browns are trying to overthink it.

    @stillmotion said:

    If we trade down to 15-22 and grab another medicore player i'll flip. take the best damn player available. It's not rocket science, maybe the browns are trying to overthink it.

    I think it's mock draft boards and guys on forums who over think πŸ˜‰ take Mahomes first and Barnett at 12. Real simple.

  • E ElkDawg

    @stillmotion said:

    If we trade down to 15-22 and grab another medicore player i'll flip. take the best damn player available. It's not rocket science, maybe the browns are trying to overthink it.

    I think it's mock draft boards and guys on forums who over think πŸ˜‰ take Mahomes first and Barnett at 12. Real simple.

    @elkdawg said:

    I think it's mock draft boards and guys on forums who over think πŸ˜‰ take Mahomes first and Barnett at 12. Real simple.

    LOL Barnett won't be there by 12. But Mahomes will.

  • B BaconHound

    @the-gipper said:

    If that guy is Mitch Trubisky...then the Browns should go whacky and take their guy. πŸ˜‰

    I wish I was as confident as you.

    @baconhound said:

    I wish I was as confident as you.

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  • Not sure where to put this, so I figured this was as good as any.

    Has there been any thought to if the Browns trade down at #12 to say the late teens and pick up another #2, and then parlay 2 of their three second round picks for JG? Would people be upset with a move like that?

    Here are some other bold predictions:

    1. Mitch Trubisky will measure 6'1" with small hands. His draft stock will fall

    2. Buffalo will release TT. This will cause SF to trade the #2 pick to the Bills for a QB (Watson)

    3. No qb after Watson will be drafted in the first 20 picks

    4. The arizona cardinals will trade their #13 pick to NE for Garrapolo

    5. The browns will go defense with both of their first round picks and then draft Mahomes in the Second

    6. The browns will sign TT, release RG3

  • B Bigalow80

    Not sure where to put this, so I figured this was as good as any.

    Has there been any thought to if the Browns trade down at #12 to say the late teens and pick up another #2, and then parlay 2 of their three second round picks for JG? Would people be upset with a move like that?

    Here are some other bold predictions:

    1. Mitch Trubisky will measure 6'1" with small hands. His draft stock will fall

    2. Buffalo will release TT. This will cause SF to trade the #2 pick to the Bills for a QB (Watson)

    3. No qb after Watson will be drafted in the first 20 picks

    4. The arizona cardinals will trade their #13 pick to NE for Garrapolo

    5. The browns will go defense with both of their first round picks and then draft Mahomes in the Second

    6. The browns will sign TT, release RG3

    @bigalow80 said:

    Not sure where to put this, so I figured this was as good as any.

    Has there been any thought to if the Browns trade down at #12 to say the late teens and pick up another #2, and then parlay 2 of their three second round picks for JG? Would people be upset with a move like that?

    Here are some other bold predictions:

    1. Mitch Trubisky will measure 6'1" with small hands. His draft stock will fall

    They have already measured him at 6'3"....and with big hands.

    2. Buffalo will release TT. This will cause SF to trade the #2 pick to the Bills for a QB (Watson)

    3. No qb after Watson will be drafted in the first 20 picks

    BS....three of them could go in the Top 10. Two almost certainly will.. 5 of top 10 drafting teams are in need of QB..

    4. The arizona cardinals will trade their #13 pick to NE for Garrapolo

    Interesting.

    5. The browns will go defense with both of their first round picks and then draft Mahomes in the Second

    No, they either go big or go home. If they don't take a QB in round one...they will only take one much later.

    6. The browns will sign TT, release RG3

    Well...Hue loves RG...his new QB coach coached TT....but we don't know if he loves him or not. He may not have. Even so...head coach rules.

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