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NFL.com Player Grades are Posted... Here are Their Top 3 (and ties)

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  • C CaineDeSoulis

    Myles Garrett is .02 points higher in grade than Laremy Tunsil was last year.

    Mitch has a higher grade than Goff or Wentz did last year. aswell as a higher grade than jameis winston and mariota

    Hell according to this site he is the best QB coming out since 2012 and his comparison is Matt Stafford.

    Going by that we would be completely foolish not to draft him #1 overall

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #14

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Myles Garrett is .02 points higher in grade than Laremy Tunsil was last year.

    Mitch has a higher grade than Goff or Wentz did last year. aswell as a higher grade than jameis winston and mariota

    Hell according to this site he is the best QB coming out since 2012 and his comparison is Matt Stafford.

    Going by that we would be completely foolish not to draft him #1 overall

    Or we take Julius Peppers or Fletcher Cox...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Myles Garrett is .02 points higher in grade than Laremy Tunsil was last year.

    Mitch has a higher grade than Goff or Wentz did last year. aswell as a higher grade than jameis winston and mariota

    Hell according to this site he is the best QB coming out since 2012 and his comparison is Matt Stafford.

    Going by that we would be completely foolish not to draft him #1 overall

    Or we take Julius Peppers or Fletcher Cox...

    C CaineDeSoulis wrote on
    #15

    @tour2ma said:

    Or we take Julius Peppers or Fletcher Cox...

    Not suggesting we pass on Garrett just yet but i do find it odd that he is the highest graded qb prospect to come out in 5 years. kinda wonder what the thinking is

  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #16

    I don't believe these grades take into account work ethic, love for the game,

    character....

    but here's a really high grade on.... Trent Richardson...

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/trent-richardson?id=2533032

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  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    Is there a way to look at pass years grades?

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #17

    @richiswhere said:

    Is there a way to look at pass years grades?

    @tour2ma said:

    Try googling the year you are interested in plus "draft tracker"...

    I know 2016 draft tracker turned up the nfl.com link: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-grade

    There may be more years...

    Just change the year in the URL

    2016 - http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-grade

    2015 - http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-grade

    2014 - http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-grade

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #18

    @ghoolie said:

    4 players who won't make a fucking difference, and one who will. By all means, don't take the right one. Pick a fucking outside pass rusher than you can get in the later rounds.

    Trubisky. Anything else is a waste of a pick.

    Plus we always have room on the T-shirt. 😆

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    That is a big gap between Garrett and Leonard.

    We can't pass on the guy.

    I know we have a group who see only QB, but when you have the ability to draft a player like Garrett, you better not out think things.

    Just take the guy, To look back, who is going to pass on Bruce Smith or Leroy Selmon? Only a simpleton.

    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #19

    @ballpeen said:

    That is a big gap between Garrett and Leonard.

    We can't pass on the guy.

    I know we have a group who see only QB, but when you have the ability to draft a player like Garrett, you better not out think things.

    Just take the guy, To look back, who is going to pass on Bruce Smith or Leroy Selmon? Only a simpleton.

    +1 my man. This draft in terms of #1 pick through the eyes of essentially everyone who works this stuff is Garrett followed by everyone else. Garrett can easily be a game changing player, a strong position of need, and is ours for the taking.

    Don't fuck this up, draft the best player and put him to work.

  • C calfoxwc

    I don't believe these grades take into account work ethic, love for the game,

    character....

    but here's a really high grade on.... Trent Richardson...

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/trent-richardson?id=2533032

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #20

    @calfoxwc said:

    I don't believe these grades take into account work ethic, love for the game,

    character....

    but here's a really high grade on.... Trent Richardson...

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/trent-richardson?id=2533032

    Great question.... bad example...

    googling my ass off and cannot find any links to NFL.com's grade methodology. Feel it has to be "a panel".... Probably has to have evaluation categories and criteria... and then involves some averaging process, but can't confirm anything.

    TR's primary issue was field vision. At BAMA the holes were there a very percentage of the time and masked that. As he learned they were not where they were drawn up to be with us, he lost confidence to the point where he slowed down. Then even if a hole was there, he did not hit it hard enough.

    Bottom line: I did not see lack of work ethic; I saw lack of a key attribute.

    @gftchris said:

    Handy tip... here's a "Best Answer" for your troubles... 😉

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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    @calfoxwc said:

    I don't believe these grades take into account work ethic, love for the game,

    character....

    but here's a really high grade on.... Trent Richardson...

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/trent-richardson?id=2533032

    Great question.... bad example...

    googling my ass off and cannot find any links to NFL.com's grade methodology. Feel it has to be "a panel".... Probably has to have evaluation categories and criteria... and then involves some averaging process, but can't confirm anything.

    TR's primary issue was field vision. At BAMA the holes were there a very percentage of the time and masked that. As he learned they were not where they were drawn up to be with us, he lost confidence to the point where he slowed down. Then even if a hole was there, he did not hit it hard enough.

    Bottom line: I did not see lack of work ethic; I saw lack of a key attribute.

    @gftchris said:

    Handy tip... here's a "Best Answer" for your troubles... 😉

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #21

    @tour2ma said:

    Handy tip... here's a "Best Answer" for your troubles... 😉

    Yay, I guess?

  • C calfoxwc

    I don't believe these grades take into account work ethic, love for the game,

    character....

    but here's a really high grade on.... Trent Richardson...

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/trent-richardson?id=2533032

    W wargograw wrote on
    #22

    @calfoxwc said:

    I don't believe these grades take into account work ethic, love for the game,

    character....

    but here's a really high grade on.... Trent Richardson...

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/trent-richardson?id=2533032

    But you do? NFL talks to people that know the kids as well as the kids themselves. And yourself?

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #23

    If Trubisky is really a better prospect than Jamie's Winston and the two guys last year then sign me up.

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #24

    You know I'm as critical of Myles as anyone but this is BS:

    "Scouts are convinced he took plays off to protect his health this season."

    Does he take plays off? I'd say so. But not for that reason.

  • U Umadogg1 wrote on
    #25

    I enjoy reading fan posts filled with endless fapping over Mitch Trubisky as much as the next guy, but I won't take any grading system seriously if it doesn't bother grading...Zach Cunningham, Ju Ju Smith-Schuster, Obi Melifonwu, Cam Sutton, Fabien Moreau, Noah Brown, Pat Mahomes, Ralph Green, and literally dozens of others.

    Point being, it's early and those grades and rankings will probably change dozens of times in the coming months.

  • U Umadogg1

    I enjoy reading fan posts filled with endless fapping over Mitch Trubisky as much as the next guy, but I won't take any grading system seriously if it doesn't bother grading...Zach Cunningham, Ju Ju Smith-Schuster, Obi Melifonwu, Cam Sutton, Fabien Moreau, Noah Brown, Pat Mahomes, Ralph Green, and literally dozens of others.

    Point being, it's early and those grades and rankings will probably change dozens of times in the coming months.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #26

    @umadogg1 said:

    Point being, it's early and those grades and rankings will probably change dozens of times in the coming months.

    Pretty sure the "grades" do not change once they are set, but it is something to watch.

    As for your list of ungraded prospects... stay tuned. Last year over 500 prospects were graded, so far this year, 273.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • C CaineDeSoulis wrote on
    #27

    i'm just shocked i figured he would grade out to be a mid first pick and he's in the top 5 prospects.

  • U Umadogg1 wrote on
    #28

    Well, there you go. A total of 273 prospects graded so far out of 500 or more.

    And you can bet some actual grades will change when more information about character or injury becomes known. Not to mention how much the lesser known and small school types will change things. At first glance most of the players picked to play in the Senior and NFLPA bowls weren't graded yet, including a handful of guys who could go as high as the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

    That said, even as a Bengal fan I've got to say that's an interesting grade on Trubisky. The Browns taking Garrett 1st overall seems almost written in stone. Change that and everything that follows gets a good hard shaking, including the Bengals pick at #9 and obviously the Browns pick at #12.

    BTW if I were a Browns fan....(dizzy).....I'd be sweating bullets wondering if teams like Arizona, Buffalo, etc. would trade to get above #12. Carson Palmer's butter-soft vagina has taken a beating and he's talking about retirement again.

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #29

    I still think Garrett should have a higher grade or we need to stop throwing around the "generational" tag so willy nilly when it comes to him.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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  • C CaineDeSoulis wrote on
    #30

    yea I was really expecting a higher grade.

    ​Garrett has a 7.63

    ​Tunsil has a 7.61

    ​Williams Leonard has a 7.53

    ​Clowney has a 7.5 grade

    ​Not quite the once in a generation talent we have been led to believe.

    Oddly enough an edge rusher will have the top grade in 3 out of the 4 years. and they were all about the same grade.

    ​Comparatively the QB's look like this

    ​2017
    ​Mitch 6.8
    ​Watson 6.3
    Peterman 5.9
    ​Kizer 5.8

    2016
    Wentz 6.5 pick 1,2
    ​Goff 6.5 pick 1,1
    Lynch 6.1
    ​Cook 5.8

    ​2015

    Winston 6.7 pick 1,1
    ​Mariota 6.2 pick 1,2

    ​2014
    Bortles 6.2 pick 1,3
    Teddy b. 6.1
    ​Carr 6.1
    Manziel 6.1

  • C CaineDeSoulis

    yea I was really expecting a higher grade.

    ​Garrett has a 7.63

    ​Tunsil has a 7.61

    ​Williams Leonard has a 7.53

    ​Clowney has a 7.5 grade

    ​Not quite the once in a generation talent we have been led to believe.

    Oddly enough an edge rusher will have the top grade in 3 out of the 4 years. and they were all about the same grade.

    ​Comparatively the QB's look like this

    ​2017
    ​Mitch 6.8
    ​Watson 6.3
    Peterman 5.9
    ​Kizer 5.8

    2016
    Wentz 6.5 pick 1,2
    ​Goff 6.5 pick 1,1
    Lynch 6.1
    ​Cook 5.8

    ​2015

    Winston 6.7 pick 1,1
    ​Mariota 6.2 pick 1,2

    ​2014
    Bortles 6.2 pick 1,3
    Teddy b. 6.1
    ​Carr 6.1
    Manziel 6.1

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #31

    @cainedesoulis said:

    yea I was really expecting a higher grade.

    ​Garrett has a 7.63 ​Tunsil has a 7.61 ​Williams Leonard has a 7.53 ​Clowney has a 7.5 grade

    ​Not quite the once in a generation talent we have been led to believe.

    Are you saying they are coming too frequently to be "generational"?

    If so then I'd argue they are not the same player... some not the same position. Similarities pretty much start and end with Garrett and Clowney. Williams is a different breed of DE.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    I still think Garrett should have a higher grade or we need to stop throwing around the "generational" tag so willy nilly when it comes to him.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #32

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I still think Garrett should have a higher grade or we need to stop throwing around the "generational" tag so willy nilly when it comes to him.

    Isn't this the highest grade in years?

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  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #33

    If Garrett turns into what Clowney now is for Houston (without going thru the injury years), the Browns fans will be elated. Once Watt went down most expected Clowney to drop off, but it went exactly opposite way. He got better.

    And as for the QB ratings Prescott only got 5.4, but some of us here were saying early on before the draft that he had that one great intangible, a proven winner under pressure. How the Browns QB guru missed that and took a huge leap for Kessler is still totally baffling to me. It's why I have little faith in Hugh and the FO.

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