Jimmy Garoppolo Speculation
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Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron
Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron
He was a starting QB for a long time at a big school in a relatively pro-style offense, who has spent time in and knows Hue Jackson's scheme.
Now - am I talking about McCarron or Kessler? Yeah, pass on McCarron.
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Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron
Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron
Because he was my 2014 darkhorse?
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@boo-fagley said:
Defense wins championships.
You can say it. Its OK.
Defense gets you close. Balance wins championships.
Even the greatest defenses in history didn't win it alone.
I mean....the 1985 Bears had McMahon, Walter, Willie Gault......a pretty damned good offense.
The 2000 Ravens had a shit offense at first...that is true. But check out the numbers that their offense put up once Dilfer took over:
Here are the points they scored: 27, 24, 27, 44, 24, 34
And they scored 34 points against the Giants in the Super Bowl.
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Gipper...If it isn't business as usual the problem is likely on your end.
Agree to pay what the Bengals are asking and I'm guessing your team will soon have a brand new starting QB who already knows your offense.
Gipper...If it isn't business as usual the problem is likely on your end.
Agree to pay what the Bengals are asking and I'm guessing your team will soon have a brand new starting QB who already knows your offense.
Tell me any time the Bengals have ever made a trade with the Browns/Steelers/Ravens...or going back to Houston etc.
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Who's Dick Shiner?
Aren't you one?
Nevertheless: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/ShinDi00.htm
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Who's Dick Shiner?
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Gipper --You're missing the point either accidentally or deliberately. The fact there are no intradivision trades is only proof of at least one teams reluctance to trade. I'm telling you the reluctant team wouldn't be Cincinnati. The compensation they receive would be the same regardless. Rather, the reluctant party would be Cleveland, and for proof...just listen to your fellow brownie fans. McCarron isn't worth this, that or the other thing they say. Don't trade the draft picks to a rival.
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Gipper --You're missing the point either accidentally or deliberately. The fact there are no intradivision trades is only proof of at least one teams reluctance to trade. I'm telling you the reluctant team wouldn't be Cincinnati. The compensation they receive would be the same regardless. Rather, the reluctant party would be Cleveland, and for proof...just listen to your fellow brownie fans. McCarron isn't worth this, that or the other thing they say. Don't trade the draft picks to a rival.
Gipper --You're missing the point either accidentally or deliberately. The fact there are no intradivision trades is only proof of at least one teams reluctance to trade. I'm telling you the reluctant team wouldn't be Cincinnati. The compensation they receive would be the same regardless. Rather, the reluctant party would be Cleveland, and for proof...just listen to your fellow brownie fans. McCarron isn't worth this, that or the other thing they say. Don't trade the draft picks to a rival.
I am not missing any point. You are just being obtuse and delusional if you think that there is not major reluctance on the part of teams to make intradivisional trades.
Again....show me an instance where the Bengals made a trade with a team in the division.
Why don't the Pats just go ahead and trade Garropolo to the Jets. They are desperate for a QB.
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@ghoolie said:
Dick Shiner, AJ Mc-Care-less.
Hey, while we are discussing meaningless shit and watching paint dry, let's make a list of the things Joe Thomas has done for the Browns.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
10 Pro Bowls
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Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.
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@boo-fagley said:
Defense wins championships.
You can say it. Its OK.
defense wins championships...ask dan fouts....guy was great but man did his defenses suck ass big time...if they stunk he would have won a superbowl..they were that bad...
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Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.
We don't have a QB, doofus....and we ain't getting one with a trade with the Bengals.
Again, show me where the Bengals have ever made a trade with the Browns/Ravens/Steelers.
It would be a very rare happening. Like we said, we went from the late 60s to 2016 to find a trade with the Browns and Steelers.
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@boo-fagley said:
Defense wins championships.
You can say it. Its OK.
defense wins championships...ask dan fouts....guy was great but man did his defenses suck ass big time...if they stunk he would have won a superbowl..they were that bad...
defense wins championships...ask dan fouts....guy was great but man did his defenses suck ass big time...if they stunk he would have won a superbowl..they were that bad...
Sure, Dan Fouts could have used a better defense.....but how close would DAn Fouts's team have come without Dan Fouts?
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Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.
I fail to see where trading for McCarron would net us a QB.
The dude is butt
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Gipper---Yeah, you're missing the point. Bengals could trade McCarron to any team and the results are exactly the same. Browns will want to control which draft picks are traded and where their draft picks go. If there's a problem making an intra-division trade it's on the Cleveland side.
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Gipper---Yeah, you're missing the point. Bengals could trade McCarron to any team and the results are exactly the same. Browns will want to control which draft picks are traded and where their draft picks go. If there's a problem making an intra-division trade it's on the Cleveland side.
Gipper---Yeah, you're missing the point. Bengals could trade McCarron to any team and the results are exactly the same. Browns will want to control which draft picks are traded and where their draft picks go. If there's a problem making an intra-division trade it's on the Cleveland side.
I am not missing a goddamn thing. You are just double dumbass wrong. And, Since when do you speak for the Bengals front office? You really have oatmeal for brains.
Sure...the Bengals are going to trade a QB to about their closet rival....and that guy is going to come back and beat your teams brain out for the next 5 years.
Sure....like the Bengals are gonna do that.
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@boo-fagley said:
The Giants sucked that year.
No defense.
They sucked well enough to make it to the Super Bowl.
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I don't really remember anyone crying over Gabriel at the time of his release. Think a large majority of people were tired of the Smurfs. Considering how poor his second year was, followed by a poor camp, thought the move was fine.
So he blossomed whilst having a fqb and true #1 across from him. Think the real lesson is to ease up on expectations...Players are deemed all-pro or busts by this fanbase after their first few games, so maybe the way to look at this would be that's players often need time before the light goes on.
Not here tho...Produce from your first game on or you'll be replaced by another guy that'll be given 4 games to prove it.
Well, they released Gabriel and kept every one of their rookie wr draft picks. I thought that was FO arrogance. Coleman produced little, and the rest of the crew virtually nothing. So keep Coleman and DeValve, and get rid of the rest of the crew.
There's a few of us who thought (notably Tour) who felt cutting Gabriel was a mistake.
I see both sides I guess...Well, they released Gabriel and kept every one of their rookie wr draft picks. I thought that was FO arrogance. Coleman produced little, and the rest of the crew virtually nothing. So keep Coleman and DeValve, and get rid of the rest of the crew.
There's a few of us who thought (notably Tour) who felt cutting Gabriel was a mistake.
Knowing it was likely a teardown, would have also preferred TG over hawk, but saw the logic in Hue choosing hawk due to familiarity. But I thought TG just needed some more time, sophomore slump so to speak, to figure out the game. I try my best to analyze with as little hindsight as possible, and also keep in mind that maybe Hollywood or Payton see the same development....Just gotta wait for it...
Thanks fluges! Football is fun to prognosticate, but even more so to watch playout. I do really hate the hindsight game... Particularly when backed by an agenda. Makes the subject matter and arguement rather than a discussion.HA! Glad to see you back here Choco.
Colt McCoy has to be thinking "where was Choco when I had about 60,000 Hatfields ready to kill me during my 3rd start?"
Interesting you chose .45 there...?
Nice of you to "notab"....
I think I was making a case for his youth over Hawk, who you might also remember I wanted to trade after his "career" year with us. Just seemed the better fit with our youth movement and Hawk had a couple injury issues in 2015. However, the counter-case of keeping Hawk as a vet presence in the WR room had merit. Unfortunately now his concussed 2016 campaign has him considering retirement.
That said.... I do agree with Osiris that Gabe would not have had the kind of year here that he posted in ATL.
Well stated!
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@boo-fagley said:
But defense wins championships
Not without a good offense as well.
Again....51 SBs....defense was priority in just 3.
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