Jimmy Garoppolo Speculation
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Hoorta --- You're about the 5th or 6th Brownie to argue McCarron isn't worth today what the Bengals turned down in trade last year.
It's almost like you guys don't know the value of numbers.
Hoorta --- You're about the 5th or 6th Brownie to argue McCarron isn't worth today what the Bengals turned down in trade last year.
It's almost like you guys don't know the value of numbers.
Don't know about the value of numbers. We know the value of QBs. (at least the fans do..not sure about our FOs)
And if the Bengals believed that McCarron is worth more than the Browns are willing to pay..then they should have taken the deal from the other team.
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gftChris --- Congrats, you're wrong on both counts. A persons worth is determined by what the high bidder will pay. What a brownie fan on the internet thinks is a mere curiosity and worthy only of contempt. Furthermore, it was recently ruled that because he wasn't able to practice as a rookie McCarron didn't accrue a season towards free agency. Thus, the Bengals can easily and cheaply keep him on the roster for the next 2 years, and that's exactly what I think they'll do if a team doesn't meet their trade demands. This isn't a fire sale.
gftChris --- Congrats, you're wrong on both counts. A persons worth is determined by what the high bidder will pay. What a brownie fan on the internet thinks is a mere curiosity and worthy only of contempt. Furthermore, it was recently ruled that because he wasn't able to practice as a rookie McCarron didn't accrue a season towards free agency. Thus, the Bengals can easily and cheaply keep him on the roster for the next 2 years, and that's exactly what I think they'll do if a team doesn't meet their trade demands. This isn't a fire sale.
Well....perhaps the first thing you said in this thread that makes sense. McCarron knows their system....they may have confidence in him as a backup QB....and he comes cheap...thus they should just keep him...unless overwhelmed with a trade offer.
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Gip---You admit the Browns aren't relevant, but insist teams are afraid to trade with them now? Sounds to me like you're still trying to shovel smoke up a flight of stairs.
As for you not wanting any part of a trade for McCarron, well....I told you the problem would be on your end.
Choking on the cost to acquire a QB is your job, not mine.
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Hey, did any of you dinks get a chance to read Daniel Jeremiah's recent NFL.com article where he asks 5 NFL GM types which current NFL QB's they would attempt to get if they were desperate for a new QB?
Two out of five specifically mentioned McCarron as the player they'd target, and one even suggested a trading a 2nd or 3rd round pick as a reasonable strategy.
None of the five felt trading for Garappolo or staying put to draft Trubisky was the answer. In fact, even Davis Webb got more votes than those guys.
And Dick Shiner wasn't mentioned at all.
Hey, did any of you dinks get a chance to read Daniel Jeremiah's recent NFL.com article where he asks 5 NFL GM types which current NFL QB's they would attempt to get if they were desperate for a new QB?
Two out of five specifically mentioned McCarron as the player they'd target, and one even suggested a trading a 2nd or 3rd round pick as a reasonable strategy.
None of the five felt trading for Garappolo or staying put to draft Trubisky was the answer. In fact, even Davis Webb got more votes than those guys.
And Dick Shiner wasn't mentioned at all.
It doesn't matter what others think. It matters what Sashi Brown, Andrew Berry, and Hue Jackson think.
Those 5 GMs that were asked apparently ARE NOT desperate for a new QB. Jeremiah should reveal who he asked. If those were the GMs of the Bears, 49ers, Jets, Cardinals, and Browns....then the article may have some relevency. Otherwise it is just folderol.
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gftChris --- Wrong again. Of the 5 GM types polled McCarron was mentioned twice, more than any other QB. The trade cost was projected to be a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
I found it amusing how none of the GM's cast a single vote in favor of trading for Garappolo or drafting Trubisky.
gftChris --- Wrong again. Of the 5 GM types polled McCarron was mentioned twice, more than any other QB. The trade cost was projected to be a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
I found it amusing how none of the GM's cast a single vote in favor of trading for Garappolo or drafting Trubisky.
Provide the link. Because honestly....we don't trust your interpretation.
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Gip---You need a link to NFL.com?
You mean this article, where one NFL GM said McCarron, two said Romo, one said Cousins and the other said Davis Webb?
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
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Gip---You need a link to NFL.com?
You mean this article, where one NFL GM said McCarron, two said Romo, one said Cousins and the other said Davis Webb?
You mean this article, where one NFL GM said McCarron, two said Romo, one said Cousins and the other said Davis Webb?
OK, well....everyone has an asshole....some have two....and everyone has an opinion...some have more than two.
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Gip---I told what the article was about, who wrote it, and where to find it. Even TCPO was able to find it in a few minutes.
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gftChris --- Wrong again. Of the 5 GM types polled McCarron was mentioned twice, more than any other QB. The trade cost was projected to be a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
I found it amusing how none of the GM's cast a single vote in favor of trading for Garappolo or drafting Trubisky.
Of the 5 GM types polled McCarron was mentioned twice, more than any other QB.
Except Romo. I mean, are you really trying to sell us on AJ McCarron, franchise saviour? It's not like he's backing up Brady, if he were that good he'd beat out the red BB gun.
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Gip---I told what the article was about, who wrote it, and where to find it. Even TCPO was able to find it in a few minutes.
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gftChris---Dalton just played in the Pro Bowl. Again.
Which doesn't count for much, to be honest. The amount of players that end up getting in that game is obscene. I'm not saying Dalton is *bad* but like I said first time, he's not exactly Brady. The Dalton Line is a thing for a reason, and McCarron is clearly below it.
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TexasAg1969---Common courtesy has nothing to do with it. Gipper insults people while asking them for information. Ain't nobody got time for that.
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gftChris---Playing in the Pro Bowl doesn't count for much seems like big talk for a guy who spends his weekends rooting for RG3.
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gftChris---Playing in the Pro Bowl doesn't count for much seems like big talk for a guy who spends his weekends rooting for RG3.
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gftChris---How can we be done when you never got started? As for constructive content, you can belittle the Pro Bowl all you want, but I think multiple appearances in that game make a mockery of your rant about McCarron being a back up Dalton. McCarron and Garappolo are both considered potential starters who haven't gotten a chance to play much precisely because the starters ahead of them are unchallenged. Why anyone would want to waste time debating how much better Brady is over Dalton is beyond me, but who am I to judge how a brownie fan spends his time?
BTW, there are a couple of named GM types who have weighed in on this. Charlie Casserly says Garappolo is better than any QB in this draft. And Bill Polian goes him one better by saying AJ McCarron is better than any QB in this class AND better than Garappolo too. Funnier still, Polian practically spits whenever someone mentions drafting Trubisky 1st overall.
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Gip---I told what the article was about, who wrote it, and where to find it. Even TCPO was able to find it in a few minutes.
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TexasAg1969---Common courtesy has nothing to do with it. Gipper insults people while asking them for information. Ain't nobody got time for that.
TexasAg1969---Common courtesy has nothing to do with it. Gipper insults people while asking them for information. Ain't nobody got time for that.
I didn't insult you. You insulted yourself. Your belief that there is no mindset that teams refuse to trade intradivision is just mind numbingly ignorant. Can't help it that you cannot discern that for yourself.
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