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  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    I saw an article written yesterday by an ESPN analyst which stated the two front runners for Garoppolo are the Browns and the Bears. The article insinuated the Bears will go "all in", and while nobody quite knows what that means, one has to wonder if they'd be craziest enough to offer their #3 overall pick. Most people, including myself, think that's absolutely nutso, but when I look at it like, "Well, the Bears need a QB, and nobody would skewer them for DRAFTING one at #3, so why is it different to TRADE #3 for a QB?"

    Silly season tells us we don't know anything, and whatever the analysts write about will most certainly be either conjecture or directly stem from misleading information. Why would an NFL leak real information right now? Still, it's all we got right now, so might as well talk about it.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #392

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Still, it's all we got right now, so might as well talk about it.

    Thank God the combine starts next week. Just in time to save us from more retreads. 😁

  • chocoC choco

    @umadogg1 said:

    choco---You're making a semantic argument while grown ups are sharing opinions. Props for knowing your limitations.

    uh huh?

    That's what you call your shitposting?

    ? By all means, carry on then

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #393

    @choco said:

    uh huh

    That's what you call your shitposting?

    By all means, carry on then

    What has this board become where we have a Pats fag calling out a Bengals fag?

    (don't take the term "fag" personally...it is what we call all fans of other teams...or all people that are just on here because of one player...like Johnny fags. If you want you can replace the g with an n...if it makes you feel better)

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #394

    Just to show how deep into silly season we are...

    'Madden 17' sim: Browns, 49ers, Texans, Bears shouldn't trade for Jimmy Garoppolo

    Then again the sim did nail the Falcons' 2016 SB appearance...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • U Umadogg1 wrote on
    #395

    Gipper---I see no reason to be upset about being called a fag on the Browns Board. When in Rome, right?

    choco---That's two posts in a row where you've written nothing worth reading. What's your record?

  • U Umadogg1

    Gipper---I see no reason to be upset about being called a fag on the Browns Board. When in Rome, right?

    choco---That's two posts in a row where you've written nothing worth reading. What's your record?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #396

    @umadogg1 said:

    Gipper---I see no reason to be upset about being called a fag on the Browns Board. When in Rome, right?

    choco---That's two posts in a row where you've written nothing worth reading. What's your record?

    The thing is, coming onto the Browns board is the least gay thing you do in you life likely.

    "Not that there's anything wrong with that".

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #397

    @boo-fagley said:

    "ESPN's Mike Sando spoke with 5 NFL suits to try & get a feel" on JG trade..in short this bitch had a wet dream..ask Belicheck,the guy not in a suit

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends
  • gumby73G gumby73

    @boo-fagley said:

    "ESPN's Mike Sando spoke with 5 NFL suits to try & get a feel" on JG trade..in short this bitch had a wet dream..ask Belicheck,the guy not in a suit

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on
    #398

    @gumby73 said:

    "ESPN's Mike Sando spoke with 5 NFL suits to try & get a feel" on JG trade..in short this bitch had a wet dream..ask Belicheck,the guy not in a suit

    I can hear the voice of Keith Jackson concluding this with "And there you have it."

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • FlugelF Flugel

    @gumby73 said:

    "ESPN's Mike Sando spoke with 5 NFL suits to try & get a feel" on JG trade..in short this bitch had a wet dream..ask Belicheck,the guy not in a suit

    I can hear the voice of Keith Jackson concluding this with "And there you have it."

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #399

    @flugel said:

    I can hear the voice of Keith Jackson concluding this with "And there you have it."

    "Whoa Nelly, there you have it"...you mean. 😁

    FlugelF 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #400

    @boo-fagley said:

    Its going to be the Bears.

    Cant see Chicago drafting a QB when they have to start winning now.

    Why do they have to start winning now more than any other team? The Browns/49ers/Jets etc. all the team looking for a QB. The Browns need to start winning long before the Bears. Why? Because I am a Browns fan, not a Bears fan.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #401

    @boo-fagley said:

    Did not see a lot of #1's flying to Foxboro... Bad link?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @flugel said:

    I can hear the voice of Keith Jackson concluding this with "And there you have it."

    "Whoa Nelly, there you have it"...you mean. 😁

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on
    #402

    @the-gipper said:

    "Whoa Nelly, there you have it"...you mean. 😁

    HA! Yes, thanks!

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #403

    The way I read the article those were outliers.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    The way I read the article those were outliers.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #404

    @tour2ma said:

    The way I read the article those were outliers.

    Going price seems to be a couple seconds. Also liked the comment that the Bradford trade was the all time desperation move- something I said from the get-go. Somebody wasn't listening when I said that haul the Eagles got wasn't likely to be repeated.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @tour2ma said:

    The way I read the article those were outliers.

    Going price seems to be a couple seconds. Also liked the comment that the Bradford trade was the all time desperation move- something I said from the get-go. Somebody wasn't listening when I said that haul the Eagles got wasn't likely to be repeated.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #405

    @hoorta said:

    Going price seems to be a couple seconds. Also liked the comment that the Bradford trade was the all time desperation move- something I said from the get-go. Somebody wasn't listening when I said that haul the Eagles got wasn't likely to be repeated.

    No less listening than to any other opinion posts around here... 😉

    I can see the Pats hanging on to Jimmy in hopes of a Bradford-like scenario developing.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #406

    @boo-fagley said:

    A 2018 1st is still a 1st.

    Not in trade equity calcs...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #407

    @boo-fagley said:

    Expound?

    Picks are discounted one round per year that they are in the future.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #408

    @boo-fagley said:

    Really?

    So the Eagles 2017 1st from the Vikes is really a 2nd.

    Interesting.

    In terms of trade points, yes....it was....last year....

    simple logic.....would you trade this years #1 for next years #1...straight up?.....

    answer =.....of course not.....

    Why?.....because "right now" next years pick is less valuable......(and will stay that way till next year)(which is when it becomes this years pick, which is where the greater value is).....get it?

  • R RoyceRolls wrote on
    #409

    @boo-fagley said:

    Nobody is talking about trading a 1st for a 1st.

    Next years pick is relative to the talent in the 2018 draft. If the 2018 draft is ranked like the 1983 draft for QBs, picks in the 1st round of that draft are absolutely worth more than the 2017 1st round pick. Therefore, next years 1st is just as valuable if not more valuable..

    Comprende?

    That's all conjecture. There was a time that Matt Barkley was considered the next big thing. Grading a draft class a year away is a fool's errand. I believe the analogy is "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."

  • hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #410

    @boo-fagley said:

    Nobody is talking about trading a 1st for a 1st.

    Next years pick is relative to the talent in the 2018 draft. If the 2018 draft is ranked like the 1983 draft for QBs, picks in the 1st round of that draft are absolutely worth more than the 2017 1st round pick. Therefore, next years 1st is just as valuable if not more valuable..

    Comprende?

    As RR said- trying to "grade" a draft a year in advance is risky at best. In spring 2015 no one, and I'll bet no one- had Carson Wentz as a top 5 pick, even his groupies from North Dakota State. Top prospects can get hurt too- like the kid from Notre Dame who blew out his ACL in a Bowl game. The other thing that you have to factor in is, unless you have a functional crystal ball to look into the future, you have no idea where the team you're trading with is going to land in the draft order a year hence. Case in point would be if the team you want Jimmy to go to- Da Bears, offers you a 2018 first round pick. Goody- they suck and will be drafting high again next year. Not necessarily the case.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #411

    @boo-fagley said:

    Nobody is talking about trading a 1st for a 1st.

    Next years pick is relative to the talent in the 2018 draft. If the 2018 draft is ranked like the 1983 draft for QBs, picks in the 1st round of that draft are absolutely worth more than the 2017 1st round pick. Therefore, next years 1st is just as valuable if not more valuable..

    Comprende?

    What a bullshit reply. Set up a strawman "if" that you have no idea js close to true, and then build on it as if it's gold and get puffy. You and Gipper deserve each other.

    It's not that hard. The concept is called "net present value" (NPV).

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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