Josh Gordon reapplies to be reinstated today...
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I never understood all of the reports that said the Browns have given up on Gordon and will move on. It really didn't make any sense. Yeah, he broke our hearts a thousand times, but we have him on contract for two years, he's cheap, and he's not a guy who brings bad mojo to the team. He's simply a guy struggling with a major issue.
Even though Sashi recently said the door isn't closed, I still believe it's shut in Cleveland. I think we're going to trade the guy, and I think it's going to be to New England. I hope I'm wrong...I really do.
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For the first time Gordon seems focused on football. Bet he's on PEDS though to build his body back to shape. Still feel like there will always be something shady with him. Considering the situation you have to play him if the league let's him play. He is an instant #1. The Browns are considered a joke already so if he fucks up its just status quo, but he makes the offense respected when he's out there. If you waited years for LeBron to come back, then this shouldn't feel new to you.
For the first time Gordon seems focused on football. Bet he's on PEDS though to build his body back to shape. Still feel like there will always be something shady with him. Considering the situation you have to play him if the league let's him play. He is an instant #1. The Browns are considered a joke already so if he fucks up its just status quo, but he makes the offense respected when he's out there. If you waited years for LeBron to come back, then this shouldn't feel new to you.
If you looked at the picture in this thread- you have to wonder about steroids.... The guy is positively ripped. So Mr. Commish, in all fairness to Josh AND THE BROWNS if you're going to reinstate him, it had better be a couple weeks before the draft- at the latest.
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Gordon, Coleman , Britt, Hall, Payton
Add one in the mid to late rounds ....
If Josh comes back does Coleman move to the slot ?
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Wish we had Pryor instead of Britt but this is exciting.
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I still maintain we are changing our tune solely because we intend on trading Gordon. I want to be wrong, I want to be absolutely wrong. Anyone that knows me already understands my love affair with Gordon. I want him on our team so badly, and I want him personally to vanquish his demons and realize his potential. The world is full of wasted talent, and I don't want Gordon to be a "Flash" in the pan. I also don't want him to be cut and then blow up on the damn Ravens or Bengals (or god forbid...Steelers).
I think Gordon was close last year, I really do. He wouldn't have been reinstated if he wasn't close to figuring it out. I don't know the exact procedures, but I'm guessing Gordon had to do a shitload of drug testing, counseling appointments, and lord knows what else. If Goodell felt good enough to let him back, Gordon was doing something right. Then we had the thing with the paternity suit, and I'm guessing that rocked him a bit. He probably realized he didn't have his life under control, and before it totally spiraled...he entered into rehab. Can you imagine for a second how difficult that must've been? He JUST catches an amazing touchdown in Tampa Bay. He's devoted, he's involved, and he's FINALLY worked his way back into the league...only to leave again.
Why did he enter rehab? We can guess, but I don't think we really know. Did he test positive? Did he KNOW he was going to test positive? I have no clue. At any rate, the decision to enter rehab and postpone his career yet ANOTHER season...may....MAY have saved his life and professional ability to play ball.
We will see, but Gordon has at least one fan rooting for him to make it.
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For the first time Gordon seems focused on football. Bet he's on PEDS though to build his body back to shape. Still feel like there will always be something shady with him. Considering the situation you have to play him if the league let's him play. He is an instant #1. The Browns are considered a joke already so if he fucks up its just status quo, but he makes the offense respected when he's out there. If you waited years for LeBron to come back, then this shouldn't feel new to you.
For the first time Gordon seems focused on football.
Felt that way last year... all the way up to the unexpected, last-minute rehab check in.
Fool me once... etc.. etc... ("I know this proverb. It's Russian.")
Has to be real this time...
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He should be reinstated by the league on a conditional basis.
If he fails another test, make it a two year indefinite ban.
The pressure is on for Gordon, but I think his stint in rehab really turned his life around. I have him on Snapchat and from what i have seen on his stories, he is working out hard everyday in the gym, jogging, on the field.
He is a beast and we need him in our lineup to at least draw double coverages.
Even if we passed on OJ Howard @ 12, we could take Evan Engram in the 2nd.
Hell even DeValve is on the up-and-up. Barnidge should be traded. He had one fluky season and is 31 years old. Trade him for some more picks to a team that needs a veteran TE
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There's really no way to argue your point. Doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results IS insanity, but here's the thing: What if GORDON isn't doing the same thing over and over? What if HE is the variable that actually changed? Listen, I'm not stupid, and I know all too well how the odds are against him, but let's not act like it's impossible for an addict to get better. I have several friends that were suffering direly with addiction to various things, and they managed to get better. Here's what I can tell you....NONE of them got better the first, second, or even third time. They had to work at it, try different approaches, keep working at it, remove the bad people from their lives, and lord knows whatever else. Point is, it took a while. Now, were any of them professional athletes? Of course not, but addiction doesn't care who you are. What color you are. How much money you have. None of that crap matters.
Would I bet money on Josh Gordon making it? Of course not, but I'm also not going to sit here and act like he's doomed to be an NFL dropout, either. I hope he gets another chance at playing NFL football, and I hope it's with us.
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We had better have a backup plan. If we go into the season with him at the center of our offensive plans, i will shit myself.
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Your point is pretty valid because we are extremely thin at receiver. Coleman APPEARS to have a chance to be at least serviceable, but the other bozos we drafted won't be in the league much longer. We lost Hawkins and Pryor...so who the hell is catching the ball? Coleman, Britt, and.......uh....uh....hmmmm.
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Your point is pretty valid because we are extremely thin at receiver. Coleman APPEARS to have a chance to be at least serviceable, but the other bozos we drafted won't be in the league much longer. We lost Hawkins and Pryor...so who the hell is catching the ball? Coleman, Britt, and.......uh....uh....hmmmm.
Your point is pretty valid because we are extremely thin at receiver. Coleman APPEARS to have a chance to be at least serviceable, but the other bozos we drafted won't be in the league much longer. We lost Hawkins and Pryor...so who the hell is catching the ball? Coleman, Britt, and.......uh....uh....hmmmm.
Hawkins is still available if we want to resign him. Perhaps the fact that no one else has done so tells us something.
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There's really no way to argue your point. Doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results IS insanity, but here's the thing: What if GORDON isn't doing the same thing over and over? What if HE is the variable that actually changed? Listen, I'm not stupid, and I know all too well how the odds are against him, but let's not act like it's impossible for an addict to get better. I have several friends that were suffering direly with addiction to various things, and they managed to get better. Here's what I can tell you....NONE of them got better the first, second, or even third time. They had to work at it, try different approaches, keep working at it, remove the bad people from their lives, and lord knows whatever else. Point is, it took a while. Now, were any of them professional athletes? Of course not, but addiction doesn't care who you are. What color you are. How much money you have. None of that crap matters.
Would I bet money on Josh Gordon making it? Of course not, but I'm also not going to sit here and act like he's doomed to be an NFL dropout, either. I hope he gets another chance at playing NFL football, and I hope it's with us.
There's really no way to argue your point. Doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results IS insanity, but here's the thing: What if GORDON isn't doing the same thing over and over? What if HE is the variable that actually changed? Listen, I'm not stupid, and I know all too well how the odds are against him, but let's not act like it's impossible for an addict to get better. I have several friends that were suffering direly with addiction to various things, and they managed to get better. Here's what I can tell you....NONE of them got better the first, second, or even third time. They had to work at it, try different approaches, keep working at it, remove the bad people from their lives, and lord knows whatever else. Point is, it took a while. Now, were any of them professional athletes? Of course not, but addiction doesn't care who you are. What color you are. How much money you have. None of that crap matters.
Would I bet money on Josh Gordon making it? Of course not, but I'm also not going to sit here and act like he's doomed to be an NFL dropout, either. I hope he gets another chance at playing NFL football, and I hope it's with us.
You have, my friend, the classic ex-girlfriend syndrome with that line of thinking. The point being you have to cut bait at some point no matter the potential. Even if they do turn it around, you are a better person for actually letting go. There really is no difference here.
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We had better have a backup plan. If we go into the season with him at the center of our offensive plans, i will shit myself.
We had better have a backup plan. If we go into the season with him at the center of our offensive plans, i will shit myself.
Being not yet reinstated, right now I do not think Josh is even in the plan... on our depth board...
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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results..... Seems we have lots of fans who need to be fitted for a very special jacket.
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