Forget the Mocks, Post Your Draft Board...

Tour2ma

Grouped by certainty of talent translating to NFL. Ordered within groups (clusters) by combination of need, positional impact and viable later options.

In rounds where we have multiple picks well spread across the round, two sub-groupings are created.

Cusps are inserted between each round for prospects that could rise:

in the event of a run on a position in the higher of the two rounds, or
if the lower cluster's prospects, in the higher round, are all off the board and no acceptable trade down offers are received.

My Board

1a: Myles Garrett (DE)

1b: J. Adams (SS), S. Thomas (DE), J. Allen (DT), R. Foster (ILB), M. Lattimore (CB), M. Hooker (FS), OJ Howard (TE), H. Reddick (OLB)

1/2 Cusp: D. Watson (QB), M. Trubisky (QB),

2a: M. Williams (FS), C. Gonley (CB), Z. Cunningham (OLB), C. Awuzie (CB), K. King (CB/FS) T. Watt (OLB), F. Lamp (OG/OT)

2b: J. Jones (SS), A. Jackson (CB), B. Baker (FS), T. Bowser (OLB), R. McMillan (ILB), D. Dawkins (OG/OT)

2/3: S. Jones (CB), C. Brantley (DT),L. Ogunjobi (DT), C. Godwin (WR), E. Jackson (SS)

3: J. Butt (TE), A. Shaheen (TE), M. Adams (DT), A. Anzalone (OLB), A. Garcia (OT), D. King (FS)

3/4: T. Taylor (WR), M. Maye (FS), J. Leggett (TE),

4. N. Peterman (QB), A Walker, Jr. (ILB), S. Griffin (CB), H. Wilson (CB), C. Watkins (DT), Ja. Williams (RB), G. Kittle (TE), M. Mack (RB)

4/5: S. Perrine (RB), R. Glasgow (DT), E. Vanderdoes (DT)

5a: C. Kelly (QB), R. Switzer (WR)

5b: J. Toth (C ), B. Langley (CB)

5/6: J. Dobbs (QB), D. Webb (QB), R. Davis (WR)

6. Z. Gonzales (K), T. Thompson (SS), J. Senior (OT), J. Chessan (WR), J. Malone (WR), TJ Logan (RB), CJ Bethard (QB)

TexasAg1969

What? Webb in the 6th? But I thought the Browns braintrust was considering moving back into the 18-21 spot of the 1st round to get him.

And where is my man from KSU, Jordan Willis. My best defensive dark horse!

Otherwise lots of good players about where they belong.

Tour2ma

CUSP of the 6th...

Had him as a 3/4 cusp originally, then his "personality" reports surfaced...

tiamat63

Lists are fairly similar except I've dropped Lattimore down. Love the potential but hamstring issues at DB are a huge concern for me.

Trubs is in play at 1b on my list as well.

Tour2ma

@tiamat63 said:
Trubs is in play at 1b on my list as well.

Effectively he can be there for me as well except all the 1b players have to be gone... as does Watson, who I finally settled upon as my top QB.

jiggins7919

1a - Myles Garrett

1b - There isn't one. I'm not having the discussion. This is the one pick where literally NOBODY can steal our selection.

1/2a - Reuben Foster. If his shoulder checks out, he's the guy I want. Linebacker isn't a position of need, but I want to give Gregg Williams the most ammo possible. I want a DOMINANT defense. I want "The Dawg Pound" back.

1/2b - Malik Hooker. He's actually my first choice, but since I don't think there's ANY chance he'll be there, I put him here.

1/21c - Marshon Lattimore, or whichever cornerback we rate the highest. Again, I want a smothering, devastating, kick-your-ass defense. My first three players have a very low chance of being available, but we'll see.

1/2d - Hassan Reddick. My first curveball, and somebody who is gaining steam. A versatile, nasty defender, and somebody Gregg Williams can play with. I think he'd fit in perfectly with Gregg's amorphous scheme.

1/2e - OJ Howard. If all of my defensive players are gone, and that's a real possibility, we should look for an immediate impact player on offense. Howard steps in day 1 and scares people. Just what we need.

1/2f - Corey Davis. A highly productive, physical specimen who would provide a nice target for our QB. Has the physique of a grown-ass man.

2/1a - Budda Baker. We are desperate for a safety, and probably aren't able to get one of the blue-chip prospects early.

2/1b - Kevin King. CB from the same school as Baker. A position of need, and a nice prospect.

2/1c - Tra'Davious White. Another CB...see a trend with this pick?

2/1d - Obi Melifonwu. He's listed here because I don't think he'll be available, but he's a fantastic safety prospect that MIGHT just be there.

2/1e - One of my first four picks will be there, but here's another curveball: RB Joe Mixon. Not a position of need, but Mixon is a special talent who could take some pressure off our QB.

2/2a - If we get a corner or safety with our first 2nd rounder, then we get our QB here. One of the top 4 or 5 QB's will slide. Happens every time. We pounce on it. Might have to trade up, but not far.

2/2b - If all QB's are somehow gone, then this pick greatly depends on what we've already been able to acquire. How about Dion Dawkins, G/OT from Temple? Bitonio has injury concerns, and I like OL depth.

Tour2ma

Vive la difference!

I'll add (repeat) that Dawkins has good potential to be a OG/OT, 2-position player.

tiamat63

@tour2ma said:

Effectively he can be there for me as well except all the 1b players have to be gone... as does Watson, who I finally settled upon as my top QB.

Aaaaaand there it is. The eventual QB split that happens every year between us.

Tour2ma

@tiamat63 said:
Aaaaaand there it is. The eventual QB split that happens every year between us.

lol... well, traditions ain't traditions for nuttin'...

tiamat63

@tour2ma said:

lol... well, traditions ain't traditions for nuttin'...

I thought we had something this year. Something special going.

Alas, I await next Spring when we may reconcile.

Tour2ma

lol... think of it this way, tia.

We consistently collectively double our chances of one of us being correct...

Flugel

@tour2ma said:

Grouped by certainty of talent translating to NFL. Ordered within groups (clusters) by combination of need, positional impact and viable later options.

Well done! This idea is more fun than picking 1 guy in a mock. It also helps remind us how many good options we have at each selection.

1-A. Myles Garrett DE (Hey where is Roethlisberger? He came down w/ Garrett's Syndrome but they're waking him up with smelling salts)

Alternatives: Jonathan Allen DL, Malik Hooker FS, Jamal Adams SS, Reuben Foster - hard to see any of them get past #10 so I have them up here...

1-B. OJ Howard TE/WR/H-Back/FB/Slot Receiver

Alternatives: Dalvin Cook RB, Jabrill Peppers SS, Mike Williams WR, JuJu Smith-Schuster WR, Ryan Ramczyk OT, Cam Robinson OT, Derek Barnett DE

Didn't find a QB in this class worthy of #1 or #12.

2-A. Budda Baker FS

Alternatives: Dede Westbrook Slot Receiver, Garret Bolles OT, Tyler Moton, OT, Marcus Williams FS, Quincy Wilson CB, Marlon Humphrey CB, Tra'Davious White CB, Haason Reddick OLB, Raekwon McMillan ILB

2-B. Carlos Watkins DT (10.5 sacks and 13.5 TFLs from a DT position vrs double teams?)

Alternatives: D'Onta Foreman RB, Gareon Conley CB, Kevin King CB, Curtis Samuel RB/WR, Obi Melifonwu SS, Cooper Kupp WR, Cam Sutton CB, Pat Elflein C, Zay Jones WR, Chris Godwin

3-A. Teez Tabor CB (productive 3-4 year starter on film that slides to us for barely beating Rich Eisen's 40 time)

Alternatives: Samaje Perine RB, Desmond King DB, Alex Anzalone OLB, Eric Magnuson OT, Montravious Adams DT

4-A. Joshua Dobbs QB (The strong spec in Nashville is he will suddenly go in rd 4 so I'm reaching where it won't kill us)

Nathan Peterman QB, Davis Webb QB, Lorenzo Jerome SS

5-A. Chad Kelly QB (Sometimes an asshole is just a great football player. Tour found the ideal risk/reward draft slot here).

Alternatives: Ben Boulware LB/ST, Elijah Hood RB, Donnel Humphrey RB/Slot Receiver/KR/PR

5-B. Japan's Sumo Wrestling Champion OT (was there ever any argument to this light bulb moment behind the bottle?)

Alternatives: We've been informed there are none so stay tuned...

6-A. Zane Gonzales PK

Tour2ma

@flugel said:

Well done! This idea is more fun than picking 1 guy in a mock. It also helps remind us how many good options we have at each selection.

2-A. Budda Baker FS

Alternatives: Dede Westbrook Slot Receiver

The underlined is what makes formulating a board the essential pre-work for the draft. How an individual formulates a board can vary, but whether it's on paper or not, it's there, so may as well take the time to set it to paper.

Can't tell you how many First-picks I did when after making a pick or a trade a player was taken and I said to myself, "I forgot about him." And that's after looking at the sim generated BPA list.

Westbrook is a WR I'd forgotten about. Was channel surfing yesterday during a Cavs-Pacers commercial break and there was some contrived, prospect "competition" on ESPN (I think). Most of the participants were mid-ling names. It was kind of a cross between The Combine's "gauntlet" and an old Superstars', obstacle-course competition. I didn't watch more than a few minutes, but the "event" on at the time was a WR one.

A WR split out ran a serpentine path up-shallowcross-up-mediumcross-up-deepslant around tackling dummies. In the shallow-cross was one of those "pad tunnels" you see RBs run thru to reinforce pad level and ball security. In all I think there were 4 passes thrown at various points. Each run was against the clock with time added for drops.

Gimmicky, but interesting...

Anywho... saw someone, I forget who, run it, couple drops put him down the "standings". Atop the standing was my sleeper WR, Taywan Taylor (so obviously this "drill" was a true measure of potential... )... then DeDe ran... fast... crisp... and flawless... and there was a new leader in the proverbial clubhouse.

It was then remembered him...

Did not watch anymore of the show (found out the Tribe-Tigers was on FS1 to fill the NBA breaks), but I think I'll look for a replay to record in case I need to shelter between now and Thursday-week...

... and, no, not for a North Korea thing... a cat-5, rumor-tornado thing...

Edit: And it was a paired, WR/QB competition thing. DeDe's QB was Mahomes... four perfect balls with zip, yet easy to catch.

gumby73

@tour2ma said:

PLAYMAKERS-TAKE THEM EARLY & OFTEN Gumby73 Board
1a: Myles Garrett (DE)

1b:R.FOSTER------- J. Allen (DT), M. Lattimore (CB), OJ Howard (TE), H. Reddick (OLB)

2a: ADOREE JACKSON CB,-----ZAY JONES WR, B. BAKER FS, K. King (CB/FS)

2b: JOE MIXION RB,----- ZAY JONES WR, JAKE BUTT TE, S.Jones (SS), T. Bowser (OLB), A.ANZLONE OLB,D.KING FS/CB

3: JAKE BUTT (TE),---- M.MAYE FS,T.BOWSER OLB, A. Anzalone (OLB), D. King (FS)

4. M.MAYE SS,----S.PERRINE RB .D.TOMLINSON DT, C. Watkins (DT)

5a: ZANE GONZALEZ K,---- JUSTIN EVANS SS, D. FOREMAN RB, JOSH REYNOLDS (WR)

5b: JOSH REYNOLDS WR- OR USE IT & TRADED UP--ZANE GONZALEZ K, JAMES CONNOR RB, R.Switzer WR,

6.USE IT & TRADED UP--- IF NO TE--SAUBERT or M.ROBERTS IF NO SS--HARVEY-CLEMMONS or LORENZO JEROME, J Logan (RB), BUG HOWARD WR

^^^For the love of Cleveland pay the Crow & Zay may be there. If not Crow takes a beating at 225lbs. the above all sit at 233lbs. A Defensive draft may also lead to us with still a lot'a Cap with Alot'a players told to walk.Our door is always open..

wargograw

Tour, where are Tre'Davious White and Marlon Humphrey? Two first rounders I never seem to hear about on this board.

TexasAg1969

Humphrey is a take if he is still there @33. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,

Mudfly

Yep.....Humphrey is on my early in 2nd list.......would waffle between him and my boy Adore though......

wargograw

I think Humphrey's the best CB in the draft, though admittedly DBs aren't my evaluation strong suit whatsoever.

LondonBrown

Thought this was interesting regards grading big boards years later

http://zonecoverage.com/2017/vikings/hasan-who-crafted-the-best-big-board-in-2014/

TexasAg1969

@mudfly said:
Yep.....Humphrey is on my early in 2nd list.......would waffle between him and my boy Adore though......

Jackson is the better overall because of his ST value, but Humphrey is the better coverage CB IMO.

Edit: I think Humphrey gets drafted before Jackson