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  • @tour2ma said:

    Plus there's always a couple surprise "ins"...

    ... and an "in" is a "win" minus the "w"...

    Damn... what a difference one letter makes...

    You never know.....was just a couple seasons ago where we torn off 7 wins in 10 games, before our QB melted down.....so anything is possible

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    You never know.....was just a couple seasons ago where we torn off 7 wins in 10 games, before our QB melted down.....so anything is possible

    Yup and if you look at how we did it in 2014, it was a good game managing QB, behind one of the league's best unit of "fatasses", a revolving door of rookie RBs and a who's "who is that?" WR/TE corps. Oh... plus a porous D, but one with some ball-hawking DBs.

    Sounds similar excepting the ball-hawking bit...

  • @mudfly said:

    You never know.....was just a couple seasons ago where we torn off 7 wins in 10 games, before our QB melted down.....so anything is possible

    Yup and if you look at how we did it in 2014, it was a good game managing QB, behind one of the league's best unit of "fatasses", a revolving door of rookie RBs and a who's "who is that?" WR/TE corps. Oh... plus a porous D, but one with some ball-hawking DBs.

    Sounds similar excepting the ball-hawking bit...

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Yup and if you look at how we did it in 2014, it was a good game managing QB, behind one of the league's best unit of "fatasses", a revolving door of rookie RBs and a who's "who is that?" WR/TE corps. Oh... plus a porous D, but one with some ball-hawking DBs.

    Sounds similar excepting the ball-hawking bit...

    Right.....3 outta 4 db's to the pro-bowl.....we need to get back to that type of D Bfield......

    Im a firm believer in momentum....both ways......so, Hue has to get us going the right way....EARLY.....for things to fall into place...

    An O fer start could trigger outrageous flashblacks and pstd symptoms in the guys who endured last season.....here we go again syndrome......we cant have that

  • @tour2ma said:

    With you being our resident lineologist, I assumed...

    What's a lineologist? 😕

    Better mention something about 2017 schedules, glad to see the BROWNS in 9:30 am London since they have no primetime games.

    ....oh the Steelers have five.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    What's a lineologist? 😕

    Better mention something about 2017 schedules, glad to see the BROWNS in 9:30 am London since they have no primetime games.

    ....oh the Steelers have five.

    Steelers will be mediocre...but that may still be enough to win the division....as the Bengals and Ravens are below mediocre. And then there are the Browns. I predict they will be tougher than people think.

  • @mudfly said:

    Yep......five wins would be beyond my expectations.....but, "being in 5 games"?.....thats realistic

    Plus there's always a couple surprise "ins"...

    ... and an "in" is a "win" minus the "w"...

    Damn... what a difference one letter makes...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Plus there's always a couple surprise "ins"...

    ... and an "in" is a "win" minus the "w"...

    Damn... what a difference one letter makes...

    Last year, 6 teams made the playoffs that did not make it the year before. So there is always that in the back of our minds.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #88

    We're not making the playoffs.

  • @mjp28 said:

    What's a lineologist? 😕

    Better mention something about 2017 schedules, glad to see the BROWNS in 9:30 am London since they have no primetime games.

    ....oh the Steelers have five.

    Steelers will be mediocre...but that may still be enough to win the division....as the Bengals and Ravens are below mediocre. And then there are the Browns. I predict they will be tougher than people think.

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Steelers will be mediocre...

    I dunno...their offense is one of the best. Dan Rooney passes, Big Ben retirement rumors...those SOBs will make a run at a SB again.

  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    I plan on going to all home games except Cincy.

    It's going to be fun to watch us punch the Steelers in the mouth opening day. Bank it.

  • @gumby73 said:

    may i suggest you breakout that old jukebox to some old 3 Dog Night--Well I Never to Spain. but I kinda like the Texans...maybe she really won't remember...

    I have never been to Spain....but I've been to Oklahoma.

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    I have never been to Spain....but I've been to Oklahoma.

    They say Spain is pretty though I've never been

    Well Daniel says it's the best place that he's ever seen

    Oh and he should know, he's been there enough

    Lord I miss Daniel, oh I miss him so much

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #92

    I think I will defer on W-L predictions until three things are completed.

    1. the draft

    2. the final 53

    3. the end of the last preseason game

    And I will have 2 prediction, the first 8 games and then a second prediction when those are done on the next 8 games. The team we see in Sept. will hopefully be far surpassed by the "second season" team we see in Nov. after the bye week.

  • I think I will defer on W-L predictions until three things are completed.

    1. the draft

    2. the final 53

    3. the end of the last preseason game

    And I will have 2 prediction, the first 8 games and then a second prediction when those are done on the next 8 games. The team we see in Sept. will hopefully be far surpassed by the "second season" team we see in Nov. after the bye week.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    And I will have 2 prediction, the first 8 games and then a second prediction when those are done on the next 8 games. The team we see in Sept. will hopefully be far surpassed by the "second season" team we see in Nov. after the bye week.

    well....lets hope so.....

    Heard this from the gallery all of last preseason and then early season.....that the team would grow - gel - get better - etc....and us guys who predicted a shit season were all wrong......and couldnt see the great things that were about to happen.....and needed to be patient...... and just need to wait to see the miraculous transformation of the great draft class and amazing coaching that were about to dazzle us....

    But.....guess what....it never happened....

    And then all the sunshine pumpers simply pushed back the agenda to "next year".....or wait till 5 years.....or wait till the next FA class.....or the next draft....

    And...here we are.....

    For my prediction, Im waiting for the draft....camp.....and preseason too.....but, last year, we were spot on Ags...

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    With a win or two in the first half, you would have seen much more progression. Once you're 0-8 guys tap out. It's a credit to Hue that we were even in games at all in the back half of the season.

  • With a win or two in the first half, you would have seen much more progression. Once you're 0-8 guys tap out. It's a credit to Hue that we were even in games at all in the back half of the season.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    With a win or two in the first half, you would have seen much more progression. Once you're 0-8 guys tap out. It's a credit to Hue that we were even in games at all in the back half of the season.

    Well....I do think Hue is the ideal coach to handle a young losing team....he's got that upbeat "we can do it" mentality....though that is sincerely the only "high quality" coaching trait I see....

    But.....tactically....and strategically...and as a talent evaluator and game day coach?......I dont see him taking this team to the next level. So, if they get better and become a playoff contender, Id expect the analytics team to decide someone else will be a better option going forward.....

  • @wargograw said:

    With a win or two in the first half, you would have seen much more progression. Once you're 0-8 guys tap out. It's a credit to Hue that we were even in games at all in the back half of the season.

    Well....I do think Hue is the ideal coach to handle a young losing team....he's got that upbeat "we can do it" mentality....though that is sincerely the only "high quality" coaching trait I see....

    But.....tactically....and strategically...and as a talent evaluator and game day coach?......I dont see him taking this team to the next level. So, if they get better and become a playoff contender, Id expect the analytics team to decide someone else will be a better option going forward.....

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    Well....I do think Hue is the ideal coach to handle a young losing team....he's got that upbeat "we can do it" mentality....though that is sincerely the only "high quality" coaching trait I see....

    But.....tactically....and strategically...and as a talent evaluator and game day coach?......I dont see him taking this team to the next level. So, if they get better and become a playoff contender, Id expect the analytics team to decide someone else will be a better option going forward.....

    I can't disagree on Hue after several boneheaded things we saw last year. We can only hope he learned from those mistakes going forward. But if I see another timeout preceding the 1st play from scrimmage again, "turn out the lights".

  • We're not making the playoffs.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Agree... I don't think he and Pep were on the same page offensively and Horton wasn't independent enough of a DC... Bottom line: Hue stretched himself too thin. Not that that is not on him and his trying to HC, OC, QB Coach and keep a hand in the D.

    Will it be much different in 2017? Hard to say, but it looks to be pretty different... at least where the DC is concerned. Feels like Hue will trust Gregg to run his D leaving Hue to simply communicate the aggression setting he wants for in-game situations. A cursory, game-plan review at the start of every week will occur, but that's not that demanding. So my only diversionary concern is really the degree to which our new QB Coach is freed to coach. If he is, then Hue is freed to HC/OC.

    The HC/OC dual role is still not my preferred way to go, but if Hue uses his O-staff to develop game plan details, i.e., delegate a big chuck of the work, then he can largely stay out of the weeds and be more of a weekday HC. Stepping into the OC play-calling role on Sunday. Hopefully long-term, (if Hue lives to see the long-term, then he and we have had success) an OC apprentice grows and assumes more and more of the OC role... but first things first...

    @wargograw said:

    We're not making the playoffs.

    Bold... and not just because it rings true to me...

    @texasag1969 said:

    I think I will defer on W-L predictions until three things are completed.

    1. the draft

    2. the final 53

    3. the end of the last preseason game

    So you actually want a basis for your prediction? Novel approach...

  • Agree... I don't think he and Pep were on the same page offensively and Horton wasn't independent enough of a DC... Bottom line: Hue stretched himself too thin. Not that that is not on him and his trying to HC, OC, QB Coach and keep a hand in the D.

    Will it be much different in 2017? Hard to say, but it looks to be pretty different... at least where the DC is concerned. Feels like Hue will trust Gregg to run his D leaving Hue to simply communicate the aggression setting he wants for in-game situations. A cursory, game-plan review at the start of every week will occur, but that's not that demanding. So my only diversionary concern is really the degree to which our new QB Coach is freed to coach. If he is, then Hue is freed to HC/OC.

    The HC/OC dual role is still not my preferred way to go, but if Hue uses his O-staff to develop game plan details, i.e., delegate a big chuck of the work, then he can largely stay out of the weeds and be more of a weekday HC. Stepping into the OC play-calling role on Sunday. Hopefully long-term, (if Hue lives to see the long-term, then he and we have had success) an OC apprentice grows and assumes more and more of the OC role... but first things first...

    @wargograw said:

    We're not making the playoffs.

    Bold... and not just because it rings true to me...

    @texasag1969 said:

    I think I will defer on W-L predictions until three things are completed.

    1. the draft

    2. the final 53

    3. the end of the last preseason game

    So you actually want a basis for your prediction? Novel approach...

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #98

    @tour2ma said:

    So you actually want a basis for your prediction? Novel approach...

    I know it's rather bizarre for a speculation board, but there it is. 😛

  • @mjp28 said:

    What's a lineologist? 😕

    Better mention something about 2017 schedules, glad to see the BROWNS in 9:30 am London since they have no primetime games.

    ....oh the Steelers have five.

    Steelers will be mediocre...but that may still be enough to win the division....as the Bengals and Ravens are below mediocre. And then there are the Browns. I predict they will be tougher than people think.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Steelers will be mediocre...but that may still be enough to win the division....as the Bengals and Ravens are below mediocre. And then there are the Browns. I predict they will be tougher than people think.

    Just thinking back the 1-15 BROWNS almost and should have won a few early games before everything really went kaboom -and- with an A or A+ draft then will be better than a 1 win team.

    Plus primetime TV games are almost always determined by past performance and team reputation.

    ....there I go again with the orange and brown glasses, old habit.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Steelers will be mediocre...but that may still be enough to win the division....as the Bengals and Ravens are below mediocre. And then there are the Browns. I predict they will be tougher than people think.

    Just thinking back the 1-15 BROWNS almost and should have won a few early games before everything really went kaboom -and- with an A or A+ draft then will be better than a 1 win team.

    Plus primetime TV games are almost always determined by past performance and team reputation.

    ....there I go again with the orange and brown glasses, old habit.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by

    @mjp28 said:

    Just thinking back the 1-15 BROWNS....should have won a few early games

    Which is a big concern...playing below expectation instead of above expectation?.....you'd hope the staff would find a way to win a few, instead of new ways to lose em......

  • @mjp28 said:

    Just thinking back the 1-15 BROWNS....should have won a few early games

    Which is a big concern...playing below expectation instead of above expectation?.....you'd hope the staff would find a way to win a few, instead of new ways to lose em......

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    @mudfly said:

    Which is a big concern...playing below expectation instead of above expectation?.....you'd hope the staff would find a way to win a few, instead of new ways to lose em......

    Yes plus a no good reoccurring BROWNS problem losing yet another QB early and scrambling the rest of the season to patch that big hole.

  • @mudfly said:

    Which is a big concern...playing below expectation instead of above expectation?.....you'd hope the staff would find a way to win a few, instead of new ways to lose em......

    Yes plus a no good reoccurring BROWNS problem losing yet another QB early and scrambling the rest of the season to patch that big hole.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly

    @mjp28 said:

    Yes plus a no good reoccurring BROWNS problem losing yet another QB early and scrambling the rest of the season to patch that big hole.

    but the REAL problem is that nothing was done to patch the massive holes in front of the QB....nothing.....

    and there really wasnt a good QB to protect anyway....was there?....lets be honest now....

    we've gone 3 straight seasons where we've had 5 different starters.....last year was nothing new...

  • @mjp28 said:

    Yes plus a no good reoccurring BROWNS problem losing yet another QB early and scrambling the rest of the season to patch that big hole.

    but the REAL problem is that nothing was done to patch the massive holes in front of the QB....nothing.....

    and there really wasnt a good QB to protect anyway....was there?....lets be honest now....

    we've gone 3 straight seasons where we've had 5 different starters.....last year was nothing new...

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    @mudfly said:

    but the REAL problem is that nothing was done to patch the massive holes in front of the QB....nothing.....

    and there really wasnt a good QB to protect anyway....was there?....lets be honest now....

    we've gone 3 straight seasons where we've had 5 different starters.....last year was nothing new...

    am I confused here or are you just not making sense but didn't we just add two linemen in f.a