Barnidge cut
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The whole mentoring thing is overblown. Dogs gonna hunt.
Agree on mentoring at this stage. But to pull the rug out on Kessler's two main chemistry guys in one off-season? that's like a blind dog just learning how to hunt
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The veteran pro bowl player can teach the young players by example.
By showing a pro bowl work ethic in the meeting rooms and on the practice field.
Barn didn't have another 'big' year last season. He's older and not a good blocker. We have other non blocking TE's...we cut the one with the best hands.
We'll have to see if these newer TE's can learn to block.
Barn didn't have another 'big' year last season. He's older and not a good blocker. We have other non blocking TE's...we cut the one with the best hands.
Best hands? Not sure about that... I remember a few drops in 2016.... and more double-catches.
Barn was a great story and a great guy. Thanks to a number of circumstances he had a career year in 2015, that, again due to many circumstances, he did not come close to matching in 2016. One side issue was his connect percentage which actually rose in 2016... to 67%.
Did we have a TE with better hands? Small sample size, but yes, we did... Seth. No drops and an 83% connection rate. Time to go with youth...
I wish Barn the best... hope he latches on with a contender... sees the playoffs and even a ring. But he was a one season wonder as a Brown... far from our first... won't be our last.
The whole mentoring thing is overblown. Dogs gonna hunt.
Disagree... there is something to be said for a vet presence "in the room", "on the field"... but it alone is not enough to keep you on a squad.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Can't wait.
Can we like....go through the NBA playoffs, the NHL playoffs, the baseball season, the NFL season, the Winter Olympics, etc. until we start worrying about NEXT year's draft?
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Can't wait.
Can we like....go through the NBA playoffs, the NHL playoffs, the baseball season, the NFL season, the Winter Olympics, etc. until we start worrying about NEXT year's draft?
Can't wait.
Can we like....go through the NBA playoffs, the NHL playoffs, the baseball season, the NFL season, the Winter Olympics, etc. until we start worrying about NEXT year's draft?
Never too early.
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He can't block, and makes up for that by not being able to catch or run. He has exactly zero discernable skill other than his history of having one great year.
If you think Barnidge represents "talent" in 2017, I don't want to see the women you think have talent.
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He can't block, and makes up for that by not being able to catch or run. He has exactly zero discernable skill other than his history of having one great year.
If you think Barnidge represents "talent" in 2017, I don't want to see the women you think have talent.
He can't block, and makes up for that by not being able to catch or run. He has exactly zero discernable skill other than his history of having one great year.
If you think Barnidge represents "talent" in 2017, I don't want to see the women you think have talent.
I think I know to whom you are speaking...
You should know that it went on and on about boinking MKC a day or two ago... in other words... spot on analysis.
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The reason the browns cut Barnidge now is out of respect. He's 32 years old and whether you want to admit it or not, he's on the downside of his career. BY releasing him now, it gives him the chance to latch on with another team. Not to mention, doing it as early as possible during the draft, he can choose where he wants to go. I think the browns could have easily traded him for a late round pick to someone, but instead, they gave him enough respect to release him early. NFL is a cut throat business but I feel the browns FO best served both parties in this case. They could have held onto him for weeks or through training camp if they wanted. They let him have options.
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Barn didn't have another 'big' year last season. He's older and not a good blocker. We have other non blocking TE's...we cut the one with the best hands.
Best hands? Not sure about that... I remember a few drops in 2016.... and more double-catches.
Barn was a great story and a great guy. Thanks to a number of circumstances he had a career year in 2015, that, again due to many circumstances, he did not come close to matching in 2016. One side issue was his connect percentage which actually rose in 2016... to 67%.
Did we have a TE with better hands? Small sample size, but yes, we did... Seth. No drops and an 83% connection rate. Time to go with youth...
I wish Barn the best... hope he latches on with a contender... sees the playoffs and even a ring. But he was a one season wonder as a Brown... far from our first... won't be our last.
The whole mentoring thing is overblown. Dogs gonna hunt.
Disagree... there is something to be said for a vet presence "in the room", "on the field"... but it alone is not enough to keep you on a squad.
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@ghoolie said:
Really? I guess that's why the best music teachers, science teachers, head coaches, surgeons, carpenters, chefs, pilots, are the ones with no experience?
Mentoring is over rated, for sure, but, learning by example is not. This team is fucked up in more ways that you would think are humanly possible,
You didn't list one profession where strength and aggression are the primary traits.
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@ghoolie said:
Really? I guess that's why the best music teachers, science teachers, head coaches, surgeons, carpenters, chefs, pilots, are the ones with no experience?
Mentoring is over rated, for sure, but, learning by example is not. This team is fucked up in more ways that you would think are humanly possible,
You didn't list one profession where strength and aggression are the primary traits.
You didn't list one profession where strength and aggression are the primary traits.
Playing football. yes, I think it belongs in there. And didn't you have a mentor for your ditch digging career?
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@ghoolie said:
Really? I guess that's why the best music teachers, science teachers, head coaches, surgeons, carpenters, chefs, pilots, are the ones with no experience?
Mentoring is over rated, for sure, but, learning by example is not. This team is fucked up in more ways that you would think are humanly possible,
And lawyers. Trust me on that one.
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Like coaching, mentoring is as effective as the recipient is willing to accept it.
In most sports or even businesses think it might depend on the organization, teacher and pupil and can be very important IF they do it right.
Remember too the young guys want to take old guys' jobs so not everyone may be on-board with the sharing concept in the limited number of professional jobs available AND the big money involved.
Internships and apprentice programs do work and help the young people to assimilate more quickly.
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Come to your senses Cleveland and bring this guy back!
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Great guy... journeyman TE who had one career year. Not our first... won't be our last.
Movin' on...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Great guy... journeyman TE who had one career year. Not our first... won't be our last.
Movin' on...
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Great guy... journeyman TE who had one career year. Not our first... won't be our last.
Movin' on...
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Talked with the Bills today
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