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  • Boutte is a big kid 6'4 350. Any SEC guys here know much about him?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Boutte is a big kid 6'4 350. Any SEC guys here know much about him?

    I know Myles had one of his worst games against LSU last year. Those guys love to mash you.

  • Boutte is a big kid 6'4 350. Any SEC guys here know much about him?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Boutte is a big kid 6'4 350. Any SEC guys here know much about him?

    Here's video of him vrs Mississippi State. He's a little inconsistent with getting out of his stance on time which shows up on play #3 when he gets beat in short yardage. When the running play is supposed to come off your fanny - you cannot be the last guy on the line out of stance. Play #4 was also supposed to go off his fanny and it ended up as a loss of yardage from the LBer blitzing up inside of him untouched combining with the unblocked DT on his outside shoulder for the TFL. He might want to wait on getting to the second level by applying the basic man rule blocking principle of getting the ILBer shooting his inside gap. That looked well advertised pre-snap. Shortly thereafter, I think Boutte's blatant hold nullified what appeared to be a TD pass that would have put LSU up 7-0 at 1:28 into the video.

    On their first scoring drive, they eventually ran behind Boutte for about 4 yards to get the ball down inside the 1 yard line. The very next play Fournette took the direct snap and leaped over his Center for the TD

    When LSU ran to the left (away from Boutte) - I liked how he stayed with his guy that was trying to pursue the ball carrier all the way to the whistle. There were a couple episodes of anchor cleats in pass pro but there were also times he looked okay. This 5 minute video tells me he needs to get a lot more consistent if he wants to make an NFL team. I think if he dropped his weight down to about 330-335 lbs it would help considerably. As with a lot of big fellers, sloppiness sets in with fatigue.

    It doesn't look like Boutte can bend well which makes me wonder how he'd handle some of the compact 340 lb powerhouses at DT that can get up underneath him at the next level. I wish I had other matchups of him to watch. His tendency to remind me of Uh-O'Neal Cousins at the worst of times is a red flag.

    https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=tightropetb&p=Youtube+video+of+Josh+Boutte#id=7&vid=6c905e3233813757d4ac27a6006a11d4&action=click

  • I really like the Kai Signing

  • I was hoping to see Jordan Westerkamp on the list. The kid has the best hands I've ever seen. No hyperbole. He's had Tommy Brainweak throwing to him for four years, so he had to catch everything that touched his hands because who knew when the next pass would be within arms reach.

  • Yep, might as well start it :

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/4/29/15442116/undrafted-free-agent-signings-tracker-2017-nfl-draft

    Browns have already signed :

    LB - B.J. Bello (Illinois State)

    DE - Jamal Marcus (Akron)

    DB - J.D. Harmon (Kentucky)

    CB - Channing Stribling (Michigan)

    CB - Najee Murray (Kent State)

    DE/OLB - Karter Schult (Northern Iowa)

    LB - Kenneth Olugbode (Colorado)

    OL - Freddie Tagaloa (Arizona)

    DE/OLB - Ladell Fleming (Northern Illinois)

    OG - Josh Boutte (LSU)

    WR - Ronnie Moore (BGSU)

    FS - Kaimana Nacua (BYU)

    WR - Mitchell Shegos (Notre Dame)

    WR - Tim Crawley (San Jose State)

    CB - Alvin Hill (Maryland)

    S - Donte Carey (Grand Valley State)

    P - Nicholas Conte (Virginia)

    WR - Nate Cole (Cincinnati)

    @jafbf said:

    Yep, might as well start it :

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/4/29/15442116/undrafted-free-agent-signings-tracker-2017-nfl-draft

    Browns have already signed :

    LB - B.J. Bello (Illinois State) 6'2" 228, 4.56, NFL% 88.3, 3rd highest ranked LB prospect in Sparq

    DE - Jamal Marcus (Akron) 6'2" 240, 4.77, NFL% 34.2, 66th Ranked LB in Sparq not sure where he lands in EDGE

    DB - J.D. Harmon (Kentucky) 6'1" 196, 4.65, NFL% 28.7, 65th Ranked CB

    CB - Channing Stribling (Michigan) 6'1" 188, 4.60, NFL% 10.5, 113th Ranked CB

    CB - Najee Murray (Kent State) 5'9" 182, 4.54, NFL% 38.1, 49th Ranked CB

    DE/OLB - Karter Schult (Northern Iowa) 6'3" 258, 4.93, NFL% 10.5, 70th Ranked EDGE

    LB - Kenneth Olugbode (Colorado) 6'1" 222, 4.79, NFL% 11.4, 123rd Ranked LB

    OL - Freddie Tagaloa (Arizona) 6'6" 307, 5.30, NFL% 5.9, 178th Ranked OL

    DE/OLB - Ladell Fleming (Northern Illinois) 6'0" 230, 4.70, NFL% 37.7, 61st Ranked LB

    OG - Josh Boutte (LSU) 6'4" 351, 5.27, NFL% 54.6, 26th Ranked OL

    WR - Ronnie Moore (BGSU) 5'9" 169, 4.57, NFL% 11.3, 189th Ranked WR

    FS - Kaimana Nacua (BYU) 6'1" 205, 4.49, NFL% 93.6 ,3rd Ranked S

    WR - Mitchell Shegos (Notre Dame) 6'0" 203, 4.61, NFL% 11.8, 187th Ranked WR

    WR - Tim Crawley (San Jose State) 5'8" 175, 4.64, NFL% 2.5, 255th Ranked WR

    CB - Alvin Hill (Maryland) 6'0" 201, 4.69, NFL% 15.8, 101 Ranked CB

    S - Donte Carey (Grand Valley State) 6'0" 199, 4.59, NFL% 30.9, 55th Ranked S

    P - Nicholas Conte (Virginia) 6'3" 215, No Athletic data, Led the nation in kicks inside the 20 and was ranked 17th in the nation in Average Distance.

    I've Marked several Players that have better than average athleticism that may make the roster, The Biggest 2 are Kai and Bello they are both EXTREMELY athletic players that if developed can be elite.

  • How did Nacua and Bello not get drafted? They look on paper like our two best FA signings.

  • @lbc-mike said:

    A lot of Defense. Thought we would get some wide outs

    Updated - got three WR's now

    @jafbf said:

    Updated - got three WR's now

    Appreciate the legwork, J...

  • PFF's top 50 UDFA's :

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-ranking-the-top-50-undrafted-free-agents/

    2 - LB - Kenneth Olugbode (Colorado)

    8 - CB - Channing Stribling (Michigan)

    24 - CB - Najee Murray (Kent State)

    41 - OG - Josh Boutte (LSU)

    Some prospects in there.

    Surprised Kaimana Nacua is not on the list, he has a 93.6 SPARQ (Gerbil Peppers is 89.1).

    Looking on NFL Draft stats I don't even see Kaimana, I wonder if he was even invited to the Combine . . .

  • How do you rate this list? Hope our new scouts are better than previous

  • PFF's top 50 UDFA's :

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-ranking-the-top-50-undrafted-free-agents/

    2 - LB - Kenneth Olugbode (Colorado)

    8 - CB - Channing Stribling (Michigan)

    24 - CB - Najee Murray (Kent State)

    41 - OG - Josh Boutte (LSU)

    Some prospects in there.

    Surprised Kaimana Nacua is not on the list, he has a 93.6 SPARQ (Gerbil Peppers is 89.1).

    Looking on NFL Draft stats I don't even see Kaimana, I wonder if he was even invited to the Combine . . .

    @jafbf said:

    Surprised Kaimana Nacua is not on the list, he has a 93.6 SPARQ (Gerbil Peppers is 89.1).

    Looking on NFL Draft stats I don't even see Kaimana, I wonder if he was even invited to the Combine . . .

    No... not at Combine. Here are his Pro Day numbers... kid's an athlete...

    Dates: 03/24/17 Weight: 6006 Weight: 205

    40 Yrd Dash: 4.49 20 Yrd Dash: 2.57 10 Yrd Dash: 1.54

    225 Lb. Bench Reps: 15

    Vertical Jump: 39 Broad Jump: 10'07"

    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.14 3-Cone Drill: 6.87

    40 Time Range: 4.48-4.49

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=130274&draftyear=2017&genpos=SS

  • Mods... Maybe pin this for a week or two?

  • @jafbf said:

    Yep, might as well start it :

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/4/29/15442116/undrafted-free-agent-signings-tracker-2017-nfl-draft

    Browns have already signed :

    LB - B.J. Bello (Illinois State) 6'2" 228, 4.56, NFL% 88.3, 3rd highest ranked LB prospect in Sparq

    DE - Jamal Marcus (Akron) 6'2" 240, 4.77, NFL% 34.2, 66th Ranked LB in Sparq not sure where he lands in EDGE

    DB - J.D. Harmon (Kentucky) 6'1" 196, 4.65, NFL% 28.7, 65th Ranked CB

    CB - Channing Stribling (Michigan) 6'1" 188, 4.60, NFL% 10.5, 113th Ranked CB

    CB - Najee Murray (Kent State) 5'9" 182, 4.54, NFL% 38.1, 49th Ranked CB

    DE/OLB - Karter Schult (Northern Iowa) 6'3" 258, 4.93, NFL% 10.5, 70th Ranked EDGE

    LB - Kenneth Olugbode (Colorado) 6'1" 222, 4.79, NFL% 11.4, 123rd Ranked LB

    OL - Freddie Tagaloa (Arizona) 6'6" 307, 5.30, NFL% 5.9, 178th Ranked OL

    DE/OLB - Ladell Fleming (Northern Illinois) 6'0" 230, 4.70, NFL% 37.7, 61st Ranked LB

    OG - Josh Boutte (LSU) 6'4" 351, 5.27, NFL% 54.6, 26th Ranked OL

    WR - Ronnie Moore (BGSU) 5'9" 169, 4.57, NFL% 11.3, 189th Ranked WR

    FS - Kaimana Nacua (BYU) 6'1" 205, 4.49, NFL% 93.6 ,3rd Ranked S

    WR - Mitchell Shegos (Notre Dame) 6'0" 203, 4.61, NFL% 11.8, 187th Ranked WR

    WR - Tim Crawley (San Jose State) 5'8" 175, 4.64, NFL% 2.5, 255th Ranked WR

    CB - Alvin Hill (Maryland) 6'0" 201, 4.69, NFL% 15.8, 101 Ranked CB

    S - Donte Carey (Grand Valley State) 6'0" 199, 4.59, NFL% 30.9, 55th Ranked S

    P - Nicholas Conte (Virginia) 6'3" 215, No Athletic data, Led the nation in kicks inside the 20 and was ranked 17th in the nation in Average Distance.

    I've Marked several Players that have better than average athleticism that may make the roster, The Biggest 2 are Kai and Bello they are both EXTREMELY athletic players that if developed can be elite.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    @jafbf said:

    Yep, might as well start it :

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/4/29/15442116/undrafted-free-agent-signings-tracker-2017-nfl-draft

    Browns have already signed :

    LB - B.J. Bello (Illinois State) 6'2" 228, 4.56, NFL% 88.3, 3rd highest ranked LB prospect in Sparq

    DE - Jamal Marcus (Akron) 6'2" 240, 4.77, NFL% 34.2, 66th Ranked LB in Sparq not sure where he lands in EDGE

    DB - J.D. Harmon (Kentucky) 6'1" 196, 4.65, NFL% 28.7, 65th Ranked CB

    CB - Channing Stribling (Michigan) 6'1" 188, 4.60, NFL% 10.5, 113th Ranked CB

    CB - Najee Murray (Kent State) 5'9" 182, 4.54, NFL% 38.1, 49th Ranked CB

    DE/OLB - Karter Schult (Northern Iowa) 6'3" 258, 4.93, NFL% 10.5, 70th Ranked EDGE

    LB - Kenneth Olugbode (Colorado) 6'1" 222, 4.79, NFL% 11.4, 123rd Ranked LB

    OL - Freddie Tagaloa (Arizona) 6'6" 307, 5.30, NFL% 5.9, 178th Ranked OL

    DE/OLB - Ladell Fleming (Northern Illinois) 6'0" 230, 4.70, NFL% 37.7, 61st Ranked LB

    OG - Josh Boutte (LSU) 6'4" 351, 5.27, NFL% 54.6, 26th Ranked OL

    WR - Ronnie Moore (BGSU) 5'9" 169, 4.57, NFL% 11.3, 189th Ranked WR

    FS - Kaimana Nacua (BYU) 6'1" 205, 4.49, NFL% 93.6 ,3rd Ranked S

    WR - Mitchell Shegos (Notre Dame) 6'0" 203, 4.61, NFL% 11.8, 187th Ranked WR

    WR - Tim Crawley (San Jose State) 5'8" 175, 4.64, NFL% 2.5, 255th Ranked WR

    CB - Alvin Hill (Maryland) 6'0" 201, 4.69, NFL% 15.8, 101 Ranked CB

    S - Donte Carey (Grand Valley State) 6'0" 199, 4.59, NFL% 30.9, 55th Ranked S

    P - Nicholas Conte (Virginia) 6'3" 215, No Athletic data, Led the nation in kicks inside the 20 and was ranked 17th in the nation in Average Distance.

    I've Marked several Players that have better than average athleticism that may make the roster, The Biggest 2 are Kai and Bello they are both EXTREMELY athletic players that if developed can be elite.

    I'm thinking we could replace Hawkins in the slot with DeValve unless Hue prefers to use him as an H-Back. If that's the case, Bowling Green's Ronnie Moore looks like he can be a good replacement for Andrew Hawkins in the slot. I linked up his video on the previous page. He had a pretty good game against Tennessee and in the video one of the commentators was talking about the terrific game he had in the MAC Championship.

  • @canton-mike said:

    Lots of names on that list that were projected to get drafted...

    Orlosky and Toth.....C

    Lorenzo Jerome S.....(and KR)....Id give this one a whirl.....

    Ben Boulware....

    Jarron Jones....

    and more....

    Hey....I see a WR whose first name is Bug......I dunno, I say sign him no matter how good he is....love that...."Bug"

  • Yep, might as well start it :

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/4/29/15442116/undrafted-free-agent-signings-tracker-2017-nfl-draft

    Browns have already signed :

    LB - B.J. Bello (Illinois State)

    DE - Jamal Marcus (Akron)

    DB - J.D. Harmon (Kentucky)

    CB - Channing Stribling (Michigan)

    CB - Najee Murray (Kent State)

    DE/OLB - Karter Schult (Northern Iowa)

    LB - Kenneth Olugbode (Colorado)

    OL - Freddie Tagaloa (Arizona)

    DE/OLB - Ladell Fleming (Northern Illinois)

    OG - Josh Boutte (LSU)

    WR - Ronnie Moore (BGSU)

    FS - Kaimana Nacua (BYU)

    WR - Mitchell Shegos (Notre Dame)

    WR - Tim Crawley (San Jose State)

    CB - Alvin Hill (Maryland)

    S - Donte Carey (Grand Valley State)

    P - Nicholas Conte (Virginia)

    WR - Nate Cole (Cincinnati)

    @jafbf said:

    Browns have already signed : S - Donte Carey (Grand Valley State)

    2016 Highlights on our UDFA FS???

    Now it is a highlight package, with many of them repeated throughout the short vid, so grains of salt including a big competition-level one to be sure, but...

    ... some read-the-QB centerfielding, some ball skills, some nice PassD tech and decent tackling including a lil whackin'... even lumber bringing in one instance...

  • @canton-mike said:

    Lots of names on that list that were projected to get drafted...

    Orlosky and Toth.....C

    Lorenzo Jerome S.....(and KR)....Id give this one a whirl.....

    Ben Boulware....

    Jarron Jones....

    and more....

    Hey....I see a WR whose first name is Bug......I dunno, I say sign him no matter how good he is....love that...."Bug"

    @mudfly said:

    ... Toth.....C

    Ultra low need area, but c'mon Sashi... help me save face. Give the kid a PS year in the weight room and I promise you...

  • @canton-mike said:

    Lots of names on that list that were projected to get drafted...

    Orlosky and Toth.....C

    Lorenzo Jerome S.....(and KR)....Id give this one a whirl.....

    Ben Boulware....

    Jarron Jones....

    and more....

    Hey....I see a WR whose first name is Bug......I dunno, I say sign him no matter how good he is....love that...."Bug"

    @mudfly said:

    Ben Boulware....

    Hey....I see a WR whose first name is Bug......I dunno, I say sign him no matter how good he is....love that...."Bug"

    Boulware ended up in Carolina. A compared Scooby don't make that roster..We Shall See..Bug Howard..my sleeper UNC WR way past Zay's Jones spot. Bug got NFL skills imo. MudMan..."stays with the boat(mud)"..Line Backers Please!!

  • FS - Kaimana Nacau

    3rd highest rated SPARC for Safety

    @jafbf said:

    FS - Kaimana Nacau 3rd highest rated SPARC for Safety

    First reaction... "Man, BYU faced some shitty QBs, but you don't get that many picks without being in position."

    • Still was the beneficiary of many overthrows and throws into crowds, but had the hands to cash them in.
    • Did like the couple rip-the-ball-out highlights.
    • Tackling? Not a lot of emphasis there with the one "big hit" as much due to the RB delivering the blow as it was Kai... and the RB kinda won although ended up on the ground... call it a tie.
  • @canton-mike said:

    Lots of names on that list that were projected to get drafted...

    Orlosky and Toth.....C

    Lorenzo Jerome S.....(and KR)....Id give this one a whirl.....

    Ben Boulware....

    Jarron Jones....

    and more....

    Hey....I see a WR whose first name is Bug......I dunno, I say sign him no matter how good he is....love that...."Bug"

    @mudfly said:

    Lots of names on that list that were projected to get drafted...

    Orlosky and Toth.....C

    Lorenzo Jerome S.....(and KR)....Id give this one a whirl.....

    Ben Boulware....

    Jarron Jones....

    and more....

    Hey....I see a WR whose first name is Bug......I dunno, I say sign him no matter how good he is....love that...."Bug"

    Yeah, I agree on taking a flyer on Jerome. Seems to be a TO magnet.

    Mike

  • We signed Michigan CB Channing Stribling

    One of the top cover corners in CFB last year according to PFF

    Great length

    Bad in run support

    Bad combine numbers

    @mld-woody said:

    We signed Michigan CB Channing Stribling

    One of the top cover corners in CFB last year according to PFF... Great length... Bad in run support... Bad combine numbers

    Full write up here: https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-channing-stribling-cb-michigan/

    Interesting stat... "QBs had a rating of 22.7 when throwing at him, the second-lowest mark in the country among CBs targeted at least 40 times. His rating-against over three years was 32.3."

    And... "Bottom line: Stribling isn’t going to be drafted until Day 3 because of his athletic measurables, which are noticeable concerns on film. He also struggles to play the run, as he needs to show the same level of physicality and awareness that he does in coverage. With these things being said, his height, competitiveness and ball skills at the catch point are outstanding, and extremely valuable in today’s NFL. If he adds bulk to his frame becomes more disciplined in terms of not jumping first movement, he can develop into a starter despite not being a 4.4 guy."