2017 Rookie Mini-camp Thread
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Njoku had a segment on Sports Science. If that wasn't an "analytics" pick, I don't know what is. Another guy with off the chart measurables. Wish they had kept Barnidge around for another year though, at around $4 million, not like we didn't have the cap room.
I for one still find it somewhat AMAZING that an old experienced TE for a mere $4M is considered a "bargain" insurance player.
....but then again I remember when a nice new car was a bargain at $3,000.

I for one still find it somewhat AMAZING that an old experienced TE for a mere $4M is considered a "bargain" insurance player.
....but then again I remember when a nice new car was a bargain at $3,000.

I go back even farther than that, when gas was 30 cents a gallon, a pack of cigarettes was a quarter... And Jim Brown was the first NFL player to get a contract over $100,000. It's why most NFL players of that era had summer jobs, & why Jim eventually headed to Hollywood.
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I for one still find it somewhat AMAZING that an old experienced TE for a mere $4M is considered a "bargain" insurance player.
....but then again I remember when a nice new car was a bargain at $3,000.

I go back even farther than that, when gas was 30 cents a gallon, a pack of cigarettes was a quarter... And Jim Brown was the first NFL player to get a contract over $100,000. It's why most NFL players of that era had summer jobs, & why Jim eventually headed to Hollywood.
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Sadly, I'm with Tour on the gas price thing. I also remember us smokers bitching in 'Nam when smokes went from $1.20 to $1.40 a CARTON!!! LOL
How do these poor bastards afford 6 bucks a pack now? Damn glad I quit.
Mike
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Was that during the first or second Roosevelt presidency?

Hey! Old dude... don't make me disrespect my elder...
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not sure how a 6'4"351 lbs. OG from LSU gets waived before pads? but Josh Boutte was cut loose today in favor of 2 tryout guys on back end. CB-Najee Murray-5'8 182 from The Kent State U.
was a PFF CB ranked 24th as a best UDFA..... SS-5'11-199 Donte Carey from Grand Valley State(we love this place but where is it?). who's older brother Don was drafted by Browns in 09 in 6th. Now at Detroit. we now sit at 90 on roster.. -
Was that during the first or second Roosevelt presidency?

Hey! Old dude... don't make me disrespect my elder...
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not sure how a 6'4"351 lbs. OG from LSU gets waived before pads? but Josh Boutte was cut loose today in favor of 2 tryout guys on back end. CB-Najee Murray-5'8 182 from The Kent State U.
was a PFF CB ranked 24th as a best UDFA..... SS-5'11-199 Donte Carey from Grand Valley State(we love this place but where is it?). who's older brother Don was drafted by Browns in 09 in 6th. Now at Detroit. we now sit at 90 on roster.. not sure how a 6'4"351 lbs. OG from LSU gets waived before pads? but Josh Boutte was cut loose today in favor of 2 tryout guys on back end. CB-Najee Murray-5'8 182 from The Kent State U.
was a PFF CB ranked 24th as a best UDFA..... SS-5'11-199 Donte Carey from Grand Valley State(we love this place but where is it?). who's older brother Don was drafted by Browns in 09 in 6th. Now at Detroit. we now sit at 90 on roster.. I'm gonna guess logjam at OG plus not nearly agile enough...
Murray and Carey had nearly identical pro-day numbers...
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=124490&draftyear=2017&genpos=CB
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1020623&draftyear=2017&genpos=SS
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Was that during the first or second Roosevelt presidency?

Rutherford B. Hayes.
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not sure how a 6'4"351 lbs. OG from LSU gets waived before pads? but Josh Boutte was cut loose today in favor of 2 tryout guys on back end. CB-Najee Murray-5'8 182 from The Kent State U.
was a PFF CB ranked 24th as a best UDFA..... SS-5'11-199 Donte Carey from Grand Valley State(we love this place but where is it?). who's older brother Don was drafted by Browns in 09 in 6th. Now at Detroit. we now sit at 90 on roster.. not sure how a 6'4"351 lbs. OG from LSU gets waived before pads? but Josh Boutte was cut loose today in favor of 2 tryout guys on back end. CB-Najee Murray-5'8 182 from The Kent State U.
was a PFF CB ranked 24th as a best UDFA..... SS-5'11-199 Donte Carey from Grand Valley State(we love this place but where is it?). who's older brother Don was drafted by Browns in 09 in 6th. Now at Detroit. we now sit at 90 on roster.. Grand Valley State is somewhere in Michigan....checking...checking: just outside of Grand Rapids.
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Why I can remember like it was almost yesterday when President Davis told me to high tail it back to Texas.

LOL, did you talk to him? But seriously- there's people living today that talked to Civil war Veterans. IIRC the last one died in 1959. Which is sort of amazing.
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Why I can remember like it was almost yesterday when President Davis told me to high tail it back to Texas.

LOL, did you talk to him? But seriously- there's people living today that talked to Civil war Veterans. IIRC the last one died in 1959. Which is sort of amazing.
LOL, did you talk to him? But seriously- there's people living today that talked to Civil war Veterans. IIRC the last one died in 1959. Which is sort of amazing.
My great gandpappy was from Alabama and at 17 fought in one of the last skirmishes of the Civil War in 1865. He died in his late 80's so he just missed holding me on his knee by less than a decade. He actually did move to Texas right after the war ended.
James Albert Hard
1843β1953 Last verified combat veteran. Fought for the Union. -
He was from Alabama and fought for the Union?
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I had one great grandfather fight for the union, and one that fought for the confederates.
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He was from Alabama and fought for the Union?
Do the math.
If my greatgrandpappy was 17 in 1865 and died in his late 80's. So therefore he died in the late 30's, so James Hard was not he.
That second guy (James Hard) was the last known living documented Civil War veteran and he died in 1953.
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He was from Alabama and fought for the Union?
Wanted to be on the winning side of things.
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He was from Alabama and fought for the Union?
Do the math.
If my greatgrandpappy was 17 in 1865 and died in his late 80's. So therefore he died in the late 30's, so James Hard was not he.
That second guy (James Hard) was the last known living documented Civil War veteran and he died in 1953.
Do the math.
If my greatgrandpappy was 17 in 1865 and died in his late 80's. So therefore he died in the late 30's, so James Hard was not he.
That second guy (James Hard) was the last known living documented Civil War veteran and he died in 1953.
Hmmmm.... Must have been an undocumented one I heard of though. Distinctly remember being in the back seat of my Dad's 1950 Ford circa 1959, and it came over the radio that the last living Civil War vet had just died. Let's see- if he was 109 in 1959, means he was born in 1850. Could have been a Bugle Boy, or something similar.
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I absolutely loved reading that David Njoku immediately stood out, and people already calling him a physical freak. We needed athleticism badly on this team, and it's pretty obvious that our new regime places a high degree of importance on strength, speed, and agility. I honestly believe expectations should be tempered in terms of what Njoku's numbers will be, as rookie TE's typically don't have the impact that many fans desire, even when they are drafted high in the first round. Add in the fact that Njoku isn't even old enough to legally purchase alcohol, and it figures to stand that he will take a bit of time to develop. That's why I was extremely puzzled about Barnidge's release. While Gary completely contradicts our regime's "athletic approach", he was still a veteran that did things the right way on and off the field. He wasn't THAT expensive, and I would've liked to keep him another season. The guy to watch will be Seth Devalve, as he's entering his second season and actually showed some stuff last year when finally healthy. If he can get open and stay healthy, I think he can make some plays and move the chains for us.
It's also nice to read that Myles Garrett comes "as advertised", and while he can't do TOO much in a non-contact, controlled environment with fellow rookies, it's still nice to read that he's working hard, staying late, and dazzling people with his speed off the edge. Our radio show hosts described a play when Garrett burst off the line so quickly, that he almost caught the shotgun snap. While I'm sure that's somewhat of an exaggeration, it's still nice to hear. It's very difficult to see what you have in a pash rusher in a non-contact situation, but I also read that LT Rod Johnson "more or less held his own" against Garrett, when you consider the circumstances. Anybody expecting Garrett to perform similar to Joey Bosa's rookie year also needs to temper their expectations. Bosa put together a near historic season for a rookie, and it goes without saying that seasons like that don't come around very often. You can also expect Garrett to see double teams probably right out of the gates, and don't be surprised if Emmanuel Ogbah is the immediate beneficiary of Garrett's presence. Too many times QB's drifted away from Ogbah last year because there was no opposing pressure. That hopefully won't be the case this year.
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Do the math.
If my greatgrandpappy was 17 in 1865 and died in his late 80's. So therefore he died in the late 30's, so James Hard was not he.
That second guy (James Hard) was the last known living documented Civil War veteran and he died in 1953.
Hmmmm.... Must have been an undocumented one I heard of though. Distinctly remember being in the back seat of my Dad's 1950 Ford circa 1959, and it came over the radio that the last living Civil War vet had just died. Let's see- if he was 109 in 1959, means he was born in 1850. Could have been a Bugle Boy, or something similar.
Hmmmm.... Must have been an undocumented one I heard of though. Distinctly remember being in the back seat of my Dad's 1950 Ford circa 1959, and it came over the radio that the last living Civil War vet had just died. Let's see- if he was 109 in 1959, means he was born in 1850. Could have been a Bugle Boy, or something similar.
And if he was, he would have been around long enough to do the Boogie Woogie.
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