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  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #54

    Parents of millennials making fun of millennials is always pure gold.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Maybe a bitching thread or forum would be helpful here? Eh?

    Kind of like a Family Feud "Millenials vs Boomers"? 😆

    Let's just settle this once and for all. We fucked your mothers and now we're fucking you. You're welcome. Sincerely, Boomers. 😆

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #55

    @texasag1969 said:

    Let's just settle this once and for all.

    Yeah... let's whoop 'em out on the table...

    Our 401k's that is...

    BOOMERS! Who's with me?

  • Parents of millennials making fun of millennials is always pure gold.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
    #56

    @wargograw said:

    Parents of millennials making fun of millennials is always pure gold.

    Yep....one of the things Ive laughed at myself....personally believe my generation are some of the worst parents on the planet....ever......Im shocked by the worthless non contributing monsters so many have created....no shit.....

    @tour2ma said:

    Yeah... let's whoop 'em out on the table...

    Our 401k's that is...

    BOOMERS! Who's with me?

    Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha.....there it is.....🙂

  • Parents of millennials making fun of millennials is always pure gold.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #57

    @wargograw said:

    Parents of millennials making fun of millennials is always pure gold.

    Corporal punishment for all and switches for Xmas I say. 😉

  • @wargograw said:

    Parents of millennials making fun of millennials is always pure gold.

    Yep....one of the things Ive laughed at myself....personally believe my generation are some of the worst parents on the planet....ever......Im shocked by the worthless non contributing monsters so many have created....no shit.....

    @tour2ma said:

    Yeah... let's whoop 'em out on the table...

    Our 401k's that is...

    BOOMERS! Who's with me?

    Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha.....there it is.....🙂

    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #58

    @mudfly said:

    Yep....one of the things Ive laughed at myself....personally believe my generation are some of the worst parents on the planet....ever......Im shocked by the worthless non contributing monsters so many have created....no shit.....

    Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha.....there it is..... 🙂

    Maybe you were, don't speak for all of us .

  • Folks,

    There is now a bigger nucleus in place on both sides of the ball and on STs that we can get excited about. While growing pains from varying experience levels will be inevitable - our days of playing gridiron chess and attacking people exclusively with pawns are heading into the rear view mirror.

    When we're looking for how Des Bryant and John Greco are going to get reps - we're a far cry from the bare cupboards previously haunting us. I'm starting to see why guys like Garrett, Peppers, Ogunjobi and others have responded to the question of "what can our opponents expect to see from you?" with "Come get some!" As refreshing as that sounds, Gregg Williams will be here to remind his guys that's too late/passive for sic em, sock em and sack em in his version of Darwin's Survival of the Fittest. When the average play doesn't last much longer than 3.5 seconds, getting there first has a very big say in who wins that play... That's also why experience helps guys play faster as we've noticed throughout Kirksey's progress and others.

    It was even tough to decide where to cut off the core - but here's my version of our essential ingredients:

    Jamie Collins

    Christian Kirksey

    Joe Haden (w/ his first legit pass rush?)

    Jalapeno Peppers

    Danny Shelton

    Myles Garrett

    Isaiah Crowell

    Joe Thomas

    Joel Bitonio

    Kevin Zeitler

    David Njoku

    Zane Gonzalez

    Britton Colquitt

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #59

    @flugel said:

    It was even tough to decide where to cut off the core - but here's my version of our essential ingredients:

    Jamie Collins

    Christian Kirksey

    Joe Haden (w/ his first legit pass rush?)

    Jalapeno Peppers (hypothetical)

    Danny Shelton

    Myles Garrett (hypothetical)

    Isaiah Crowell

    Joe Thomas

    Joel Bitonio

    Kevin Zeitler

    David Njoku (hypothetical)

    Zane Gonzalez (nnnNo)

    Britton Colquitt (nnnNo​)

    Someone stated that rookies cannot be considered core players because they haven't done a thing yet. And since we drafted 6 first rounders in a row that are not even part of the team let alone core players, I have to agree. (and when Erving gets kicked off the team it'll be 7 out of 8 in a row)

  • @mudfly said:

    Yep....one of the things Ive laughed at myself....personally believe my generation are some of the worst parents on the planet....ever......Im shocked by the worthless non contributing monsters so many have created....no shit.....

    Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha.....there it is..... 🙂

    Maybe you were, don't speak for all of us .

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Maybe you were, don't speak for all of us .

    Yeah... generalizations only are applicable in politics... 😛

    Don't think I know any "millenials"... raised a Gen X'er... who is now raising three "Gen Zs"???

    Their gonna need a better name than Gen Z... also the last Gen connotation is a little off-putting...

  • @mudfly said:

    Yep....one of the things Ive laughed at myself....personally believe my generation are some of the worst parents on the planet....ever......Im shocked by the worthless non contributing monsters so many have created....no shit.....

    Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha.....there it is..... 🙂

    Maybe you were, don't speak for all of us .

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
    #61

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Maybe you were, don't speak for all of us .

    Thats why I used the word "some"....

    I oops on that too, as I was thinking millenials, but mine were actually gen Y.....(currently kicking ass and taking #'s)......

    Do you have millenials?.....I thought you were much older than that.....

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #62

    And to think we gave them the greatest gift of all------------Supertrump. With slight the amendments of (alternative) Truth, (in)Justice and the (Russian) Way.

    Faster than a landslide victory, more powerful than an investigative counsel, able to heap huge lies in a single sentence..............yes it's Supertrump. 😛

    Mild mannered reporter for Fox News

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Maybe you were, don't speak for all of us .

    Thats why I used the word "some"....

    I oops on that too, as I was thinking millenials, but mine were actually gen Y.....(currently kicking ass and taking #'s)......

    Do you have millenials?.....I thought you were much older than that.....

    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #63

    @mudfly said:

    Thats why I used the word "some"....

    I oops on that too, as I was thinking millenials, but mine were actually gen Y.....(currently kicking ass and taking #'s)......

    Do you have millenials?.....I thought you were much older than that.....

    Nah man. I have two sons gen X? And my daughter is a millenial.

  • @nickers said:

    I don't have or need any excuse.. I don't owe you goddamn Millenials a goddamn thing.. Now.. back to football..

    Maybe a bitching thread or forum would be helpful here? Eh?

    Kind of like a Family Feud "Millenials vs Boomers"? 😆

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #64

    @mjp28 said:

    Maybe a bitching thread or forum would be helpful here? Eh?

    Kind of like a Family Feud "Millenials vs Boomers"? 😆

    You mean like where one side is spoiled rotten to the core and blames the other side for all their problems...which really are not problems, and where the other side's response is simply: Grow the fuck up! You mean like that?

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #65

    I guess I will post this just so that we know what we are talking about:

    eneration Name Births
    Start
    Births
    End
    Youngest
    Age Today*
    Oldest Age
    Today*

    The Lost Generation -
    The Generation of 1914
    1882 1900

    The Interbellum Generation 1901 1909

    The GI Generation 1910 1928

    The Silent Generation 1928 1945

    Baby Boomer Generation 1946 1964

    Generation X (Baby Bust) 1965 1982

    Generation Y -
    The Millennial -
    Gen Next
    1982 2000

    Generation Z 2000 2018

    Gen Alpha

    (*if still alive today)

    I have 2 Ys. (both of whom seem to not fit their generation in many ways)

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #66

    On this subject there was a great guest on America Coast to Coast just last night talking about demographics and generational patterns:

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/upside-kenneth-w-gronbach/1125191219/2676538528118?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+greatbookprices_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP24181

    While others predict somewhat doom and gloom for the future of America, he believes just the opposite.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Maybe a bitching thread or forum would be helpful here? Eh?

    Kind of like a Family Feud "Millenials vs Boomers"? 😆

    You mean like where one side is spoiled rotten to the core and blames the other side for all their problems...which really are not problems, and where the other side's response is simply: Grow the fuck up! You mean like that?

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #67

    @the-gipper said:

    You mean like where one side is spoiled rotten to the core and blames the other side for all their problems...which really are not problems, and where the other side's response is simply: Grow the fuck up! You mean like that?

    Yeah a real "it's not my fault" about anything in life forum hosted by a comedian or former judge.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Maybe a bitching thread or forum would be helpful here? Eh?

    Kind of like a Family Feud "Millenials vs Boomers"? 😆

    You mean like where one side is spoiled rotten to the core and blames the other side for all their problems...which really are not problems, and where the other side's response is simply: Grow the fuck up! You mean like that?

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #68

    @the-gipper said:

    You mean like where one side is spoiled rotten to the core and blames the other side for all their problems...which really are not problems, and where the other side's response is simply: Grow the fuck up! You mean like that?

    You mean where one side incompetently dropped a nuke on essentially everything, including the economy, then sits back on their fat asses and collects their social security benefits and gets even fatter? You mean like that?

    I also find it hilarious that the older generations call milliennials "spoiled rotten to their core" yet completely disregard the fact that they would have had to be the ones to spoil them. But then again, what do you expect from a generation that is, on average, less intelligent than mine?

  • @the-gipper said:

    You mean like where one side is spoiled rotten to the core and blames the other side for all their problems...which really are not problems, and where the other side's response is simply: Grow the fuck up! You mean like that?

    You mean where one side incompetently dropped a nuke on essentially everything, including the economy, then sits back on their fat asses and collects their social security benefits and gets even fatter? You mean like that?

    I also find it hilarious that the older generations call milliennials "spoiled rotten to their core" yet completely disregard the fact that they would have had to be the ones to spoil them. But then again, what do you expect from a generation that is, on average, less intelligent than mine?

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #69

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    ....I also find it hilarious that the older generations call milliennials "spoiled rotten to their core" yet completely disregard the fact that they would have had to be the ones to spoil them. But then again, what do you expect from a generation that is, on average, less intelligent than mine?

    Good luck trying to prove that one, today's schools are a joke compared to past decades. Staffing, crime, dropouts, computer aided EVERYTHING to make it so freakin easy to push students along just to "graduate".

    Most probably have never seen the inside of a library. 😆

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    ....I also find it hilarious that the older generations call milliennials "spoiled rotten to their core" yet completely disregard the fact that they would have had to be the ones to spoil them. But then again, what do you expect from a generation that is, on average, less intelligent than mine?

    Good luck trying to prove that one, today's schools are a joke compared to past decades. Staffing, crime, dropouts, computer aided EVERYTHING to make it so freakin easy to push students along just to "graduate".

    Most probably have never seen the inside of a library. 😆

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #70

    @mjp28 said:

    Good luck trying to prove that one, today's schools are a joke compared to past decades. Staffing, crime, dropouts, computer aided EVERYTHING to make it so freakin easy to push students along just to "graduate".

    Most probably have never seen the inside of a library. 😆

    It's pretty easy to prove - average intelligence test scores have been steadily increasing for well over 50 years.

    High school graduation rates are higher, college enrollment is higher and the millennial generation is handily considered to be the most intelligent generation thus far.

    Granted, to acknowledge that without acknowledging the foundation laid by our predecessors would do a disservice to the older generations. We are able to achieve more because we have a better starting point than those who came before us.

    However, that doesn't mean that we have it easier per se - tuition rates are exponentially higher than they were for past generations, while average household income hasn't grown at a commensurate rate.

    TL;DR - This generation has higher average intelligence and higher graduation rates, yet education comes at a much higher cost.

  • @the-gipper said:

    You mean like where one side is spoiled rotten to the core and blames the other side for all their problems...which really are not problems, and where the other side's response is simply: Grow the fuck up! You mean like that?

    You mean where one side incompetently dropped a nuke on essentially everything, including the economy, then sits back on their fat asses and collects their social security benefits and gets even fatter? You mean like that?

    I also find it hilarious that the older generations call milliennials "spoiled rotten to their core" yet completely disregard the fact that they would have had to be the ones to spoil them. But then again, what do you expect from a generation that is, on average, less intelligent than mine?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #71

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    You mean where one side incompetently dropped a nuke on essentially everything, including the economy, then sits back on their fat asses and collects their social security benefits and gets even fatter? You mean like that?

    I also find it hilarious that the older generations call milliennials "spoiled rotten to their core" yet completely disregard the fact that they would have had to be the ones to spoil them. But then again, what do you expect from a generation that is, on average, less intelligent than mine?

    You mean where one group is completely ignorant about history, the economy and again....wants to blame the fact that they don't all get participation trophies for just being alive, and complains, complains, complains.

    And who...if they are more intelligent... fail to demonstrate it or apply it.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Good luck trying to prove that one, today's schools are a joke compared to past decades. Staffing, crime, dropouts, computer aided EVERYTHING to make it so freakin easy to push students along just to "graduate".

    Most probably have never seen the inside of a library. 😆

    It's pretty easy to prove - average intelligence test scores have been steadily increasing for well over 50 years.

    High school graduation rates are higher, college enrollment is higher and the millennial generation is handily considered to be the most intelligent generation thus far.

    Granted, to acknowledge that without acknowledging the foundation laid by our predecessors would do a disservice to the older generations. We are able to achieve more because we have a better starting point than those who came before us.

    However, that doesn't mean that we have it easier per se - tuition rates are exponentially higher than they were for past generations, while average household income hasn't grown at a commensurate rate.

    TL;DR - This generation has higher average intelligence and higher graduation rates, yet education comes at a much higher cost.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #72

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    It's pretty easy to prove - average intelligence test scores have been steadily increasing for well over 50 years.

    High school graduation rates are higher, college enrollment is higher and the millennial generation is handily considered to be the most intelligent generation thus far.

    Granted, to acknowledge that without acknowledging the foundation laid by our predecessors would do a disservice to the older generations. We are able to achieve more because we have a better starting point than those who came before us.

    However, that doesn't mean that we have it easier per se - tuition rates are exponentially higher than they were for past generations, while average household income hasn't grown at a commensurate rate.

    TL;DR - This generation has higher average intelligence and higher graduation rates, yet education comes at a much higher cost.

    You must also factor in the quality of education, the job market and other issues rather than how many young people now just go to higher education because good entry level jobs with benefits just are not plentiful as they were in past decades in America.

    This is why there are more students with crushing student loans that must have advanced degrees just to compete for the better jobs. Many students without a good education or the dropouts are stuck in the general labor pool working menial often part time jobs with little or no benefits and even multiple jobs just to try to get anywhere.

    Despite low unemployment rates the unemployed and underemployed are very underreported, I sure wouldn't want to be stuck in that demographic.

    The week I got my undergraduate degree in 1975 I bought my first house, my student debt was $0 I had a great job for 6 years with full benefits, a pension with a Fortune 500 company that I started when I was 18 years old.

    When I got my MBA in 1985 I built my next home again with $0 student debt and had already moved on to better jobs with great companies. Not that I'm a special case but these opportunities do not really exist now in today's global work environment, just an excepted fact of life today.

    So comparing apples and oranges can always be tricky when comparing today's Millenials to the Boomers or the Boomers to the prior generations but I will generalize (sometimes a dangerous thing to do) and say today's "kids" unless you're in Silicon Valley have it much harder than ever.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Good luck trying to prove that one, today's schools are a joke compared to past decades. Staffing, crime, dropouts, computer aided EVERYTHING to make it so freakin easy to push students along just to "graduate".

    Most probably have never seen the inside of a library. 😆

    It's pretty easy to prove - average intelligence test scores have been steadily increasing for well over 50 years.

    High school graduation rates are higher, college enrollment is higher and the millennial generation is handily considered to be the most intelligent generation thus far.

    Granted, to acknowledge that without acknowledging the foundation laid by our predecessors would do a disservice to the older generations. We are able to achieve more because we have a better starting point than those who came before us.

    However, that doesn't mean that we have it easier per se - tuition rates are exponentially higher than they were for past generations, while average household income hasn't grown at a commensurate rate.

    TL;DR - This generation has higher average intelligence and higher graduation rates, yet education comes at a much higher cost.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #73

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    It's pretty easy to prove - average intelligence test scores have been steadily increasing for well over 50 years.

    High school graduation rates are higher, college enrollment is higher and the millennial generation is handily considered to be the most intelligent generation thus far.

    Granted, to acknowledge that without acknowledging the foundation laid by our predecessors would do a disservice to the older generations. We are able to achieve more because we have a better starting point than those who came before us.

    However, that doesn't mean that we have it easier per se - tuition rates are exponentially higher than they were for past generations, while average household income hasn't grown at a commensurate rate.

    TL;DR - This generation has higher average intelligence and higher graduation rates, yet education comes at a much higher cost.

    Again, you, like the other person I have had this argument with do not care about the facts or the dynamics of history.

    Issues that exist in this country are primarily class issues, not generational issues.

    (Yes...we know that education comes at a much higher cost....who the hell do you think has been paying for it).

    While I understand that capitalism works...more or less...it does create a far less egalitarian society. (which...admittedly we baby boomers had more of growing up).

    When we grew up, the CEOs of major companies made about 25-30 times the wages of the average worker in a company. Now that ratio is more like 500-1. Yes, when we grew up, a family could be a one earner family. Not since about the 80s when the Gordon Gekko "Greed is Good" philosophy came into purview. The failures associated with this economy came not because of generational issues...but because of just greedy people of whatever generation.

    http://www.alternet.org/economy/robert-reich-whats-really-destroying-american-middle-class