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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Manning was already downhill. He had almost nothing to do with winning that SB. And that defense took some major hits in free agency, so there's that.

    Yes because Mannings only weapon as a QB was his arm. Nevermind his football intelligence being one of a kind, hence still being able to get it done, or desiphering defenses into Osweilers headset to help him make the right plays... Or that whole motivating that team to step up and give him a championship sendoff. No definitely, it was all Von Miller.

    How many TD's did he have those two years he carried Peyton Manning on his back to two SuperBowls? Must have been tons. Denver must be as stupid as the Lawyer and Hue Jackass for not leaving him in there passing the ball and decimating Defenses.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @vikingdawg said:

    Yes because Mannings only weapon as a QB was his arm. Nevermind his football intelligence being one of a kind, hence still being able to get it done, or desiphering defenses into Osweilers headset to help him make the right plays... Or that whole motivating that team to step up and give him a championship sendoff. No definitely, it was all Von Miller.

    How many TD's did he have those two years he carried Peyton Manning on his back to two SuperBowls? Must have been tons. Denver must be as stupid as the Lawyer and Hue Jackass for not leaving him in there passing the ball and decimating Defenses.

    Yeah that idiot Kubiac, whose prior claim to fame was only assisting Elway from the sidelines, had nothing at all to do with stuff coming from the sidelines either.

    Apparently someone giving out the MVP for that SB got it all wrong too. Take back that trophy and give it to Manning the QB where it belongs.

    Next you'll be taking back the Bears '85 defensive win too.

    And just for the record it was Von & Co., not just one man. But it was the defense, not the offense, or the trophy would have gone to Manning. But even though 99% of NFL followers knew it was his last game, it still went to a defensive player. Go figure.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Seems to me there's only one asshole arguing for a single player's responsibility for the Broncos latest SB win...

  • FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @ghoolie said:

    NOBODY was a bigger fan of Phil Sewage and Romeo-the-Homeo than fuckface Flugel

    "In Savage We Trust" was tattooed on his wife and kids ass. Oh, he assured us that Donut Crennel was the genius behind Belichik, and that Phil Sewage was the secret behind dumb ass Ozzie Newsome.

    You blowfish looking bastard with a chia pet hairdoo - I just lost a mouth full of iced tea on the lap top LMAO. Was this alleged wet dream I had about Opie before or after my 8th consecutive guarantee the Browns would go undefeated?

    I only guaranteed 2 things on our message board since I began:

    1) Mo Clarett is not the next Jim Brown.

    2) I will tie you up into the world's fattest pretzel and stuff you into a children's medium Joe Thomas jersey the very 1st time we meet in person.

    Moral of the story, I only make guarantees when there's no chance I'll be wrong.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Glad I hadn't just taken a gulp of anything....

    ... "chia pet"... lmao...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Manning was already downhill. He had almost nothing to do with winning that SB. And that defense took some major hits in free agency, so there's that.

    Yes because Mannings only weapon as a QB was his arm. Nevermind his football intelligence being one of a kind, hence still being able to get it done, or desiphering defenses into Osweilers headset to help him make the right plays... Or that whole motivating that team to step up and give him a championship sendoff. No definitely, it was all Von Miller.

    How many TD's did he have those two years he carried Peyton Manning on his back to two SuperBowls? Must have been tons. Denver must be as stupid as the Lawyer and Hue Jackass for not leaving him in there passing the ball and decimating Defenses.

    jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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    @vikingdawg said:

    Yes because Mannings only weapon as a QB was his arm. Nevermind his football intelligence being one of a kind, hence still being able to get it done, or desiphering defenses into Osweilers headset to help him make the right plays... Or that whole motivating that team to step up and give him a championship sendoff. No definitely, it was all Von Miller.

    How many TD's did he have those two years he carried Peyton Manning on his back to two SuperBowls? Must have been tons. Denver must be as stupid as the Lawyer and Hue Jackass for not leaving him in there passing the ball and decimating Defenses.

    Belichek has a genius level football mind. Suppose he could QB ?
  • @brownsnmopar said:

    YOU Ghoolie are not a Browns fan!!! YOU DOUCHE WIPE!!! Are a Troll! Not even a good one!!!

    Horses shit, cows shit, bullshit too! What do they have in common what they shit is YOU Ghools!!! Fuckin shit by any other name is still YOU Ghoolie...SHIT! Now F off and go away your sniveling crying, full of IT rant is old! The Browns are new and improved! No matter how you spin it! This team and front office are in to win it! And WE WILL! This from a true lifelong fan!

    GO BROWNS

    While I can understand being upset at Ghoolie since he can be abrasive at times, instead of this true fan you're not a fan rah rah stiff how about debating what he is saying?

    The fact of the matter is Ghoolie, much like Nickera have every right to be pissed and to be calling this F.O. out right now. This team had two big needs heading into the offseason, 1: Get a guy who can pass the ball, 2: Get a guy who is great at catching the ball. In both facets this Front Office failed. With 12 Goddamned draft picks and 2 major needs they utterly failed.

    The truth is theae dumb motherfuckers are 1-15, and have passed on Carson Wentz, Mitch Trubisky, DeSean Watson and Pat Mahommes. If any, some or all of these QB's pan out as franchise QB's then this front office are the biggest failures in Browns history.

    BrownsnMoparB BrownsnMopar wrote on last edited by
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    @vikingdawg said:

    While I can understand being upset at Ghoolie since he can be abrasive at times, instead of this true fan you're not a fan rah rah stiff how about debating what he is saying?

    The fact of the matter is Ghoolie, much like Nickera have every right to be pissed and to be calling this F.O. out right now. This team had two big needs heading into the offseason, 1: Get a guy who can pass the ball, 2: Get a guy who is great at catching the ball. In both facets this Front Office failed. With 12 Goddamned draft picks and 2 major needs they utterly failed.

    The truth is theae dumb motherfuckers are 1-15, and have passed on Carson Wentz, Mitch Trubisky, DeSean Watson and Pat Mahommes. If any, some or all of these QB's pan out as franchise QB's then this front office are the biggest failures in Browns history.

    Viking,Viking,Viking .......ok let me address YOUR idea of what the Browns needed VS. What the Browns think they needed! So you think (your opinion) they needed a QB (#52 Deshone Kiser) and Brock Osweiler in FA,and someone to catch the ball (David Njoku) plus a half dozen guys from the last draft!!! Oh yeah and Kenny Britt! So the Browns HAVE fixed your said issues!!! You um Sir are a failure as a fan! You believe your opinion (and Ghoolies) are more important than the BROWNS,their coaches,FO,and scouts!! To quote Ferris Bueller....why are you still here? ITS OVER,GO HOME!!!!

  • @vikingdawg said:

    While I can understand being upset at Ghoolie since he can be abrasive at times, instead of this true fan you're not a fan rah rah stiff how about debating what he is saying?

    The fact of the matter is Ghoolie, much like Nickera have every right to be pissed and to be calling this F.O. out right now. This team had two big needs heading into the offseason, 1: Get a guy who can pass the ball, 2: Get a guy who is great at catching the ball. In both facets this Front Office failed. With 12 Goddamned draft picks and 2 major needs they utterly failed.

    The truth is theae dumb motherfuckers are 1-15, and have passed on Carson Wentz, Mitch Trubisky, DeSean Watson and Pat Mahommes. If any, some or all of these QB's pan out as franchise QB's then this front office are the biggest failures in Browns history.

    Viking,Viking,Viking .......ok let me address YOUR idea of what the Browns needed VS. What the Browns think they needed! So you think (your opinion) they needed a QB (#52 Deshone Kiser) and Brock Osweiler in FA,and someone to catch the ball (David Njoku) plus a half dozen guys from the last draft!!! Oh yeah and Kenny Britt! So the Browns HAVE fixed your said issues!!! You um Sir are a failure as a fan! You believe your opinion (and Ghoolies) are more important than the BROWNS,their coaches,FO,and scouts!! To quote Ferris Bueller....why are you still here? ITS OVER,GO HOME!!!!

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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    @brownsnmopar said:

    So you think (your opinion) they needed a QB (#52 Deshone Kiser) and Brock Osweiler in FA,and someone to catch the ball (David Njoku) plus a half dozen guys from the last draft!!! Oh yeah and Kenny Britt! So the Browns HAVE fixed your said issues!!!

    Issues fixed????

    So, you are saying we have our QB and WR's fixed?.......like its a done deal?

    Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha.......ok

  • @brownsnmopar said:

    So you think (your opinion) they needed a QB (#52 Deshone Kiser) and Brock Osweiler in FA,and someone to catch the ball (David Njoku) plus a half dozen guys from the last draft!!! Oh yeah and Kenny Britt! So the Browns HAVE fixed your said issues!!!

    Issues fixed????

    So, you are saying we have our QB and WR's fixed?.......like its a done deal?

    Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha.......ok

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    Issues fixed????

    So, you are saying we have our QB and WR's fixed?.......like its a done deal?

    Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha.......ok

    I will say only that those issues are addressed....but far from being proven that they are fixed.

    I mean....we addressed the QB issue with the drafting of Quinn/Weeden/Manziel.....but clearly didn't fix them.

    We addressed the WR spot by picking up 4 in the same draft....but far from fixed that spot.

    I don''t know...is there any move the could make...or could have made to guarantee that they "fixed" either of those spots?

    Even keeping Pryor or drafting Trubisky (or Watson) would by no means have guaranteed that the fix was in.

  • @mudfly said:

    Issues fixed????

    So, you are saying we have our QB and WR's fixed?.......like its a done deal?

    Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha.......ok

    I will say only that those issues are addressed....but far from being proven that they are fixed.

    I mean....we addressed the QB issue with the drafting of Quinn/Weeden/Manziel.....but clearly didn't fix them.

    We addressed the WR spot by picking up 4 in the same draft....but far from fixed that spot.

    I don''t know...is there any move the could make...or could have made to guarantee that they "fixed" either of those spots?

    Even keeping Pryor or drafting Trubisky (or Watson) would by no means have guaranteed that the fix was in.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    I don''t know...is there any move the could make...or could have made to guarantee that they "fixed" either of those spots?

    Even keeping Pryor or drafting Trubisky (or Watson) would by no means have guaranteed that the fix was in.

    Thats exactly right.....there is nothing now to indicate that we have fixed anything here....our D and O are both ranked at the very bottom....in almost all categories....

    So, to me, it seems ridiculous for Mopar to say they have fixed QB and WR .......

    Addressed is a fair word.....but we address a ton of shit annually, with little or no success....

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    We've addressed QB and WR. Degree of fix TBD...

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #39

    We've been awfully good at 'addressing' needs over the years. We just draft the worst freakin players.

    How does a team withstand this list of successive 1st round picks?

    2011 21 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 2012 3 Trent Richardson RB Alabama 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State 2013 6 Barkevious Mingo OLB Louisiana State 2014 8 Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M
  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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    Easy, cut them and draft more.

  • @brownsnmopar said:

    So you think (your opinion) they needed a QB (#52 Deshone Kiser) and Brock Osweiler in FA,and someone to catch the ball (David Njoku) plus a half dozen guys from the last draft!!! Oh yeah and Kenny Britt! So the Browns HAVE fixed your said issues!!!

    Issues fixed????

    So, you are saying we have our QB and WR's fixed?.......like its a done deal?

    Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha.......ok

    BrownsnMoparB BrownsnMopar wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    Issues fixed????

    So, you are saying we have our QB and WR's fixed?.......like its a done deal?

    Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha.......ok

    By no means do I think the situations at Qb & WR are handled!!!!!!!! They were ADDRESSED!! Proven takes years! I was just followingup on a topic I was called out on! So I handled it IMHO!!! Mud I assure you I have not lost my mind! THERE COMING TO TAKE ME AWAY...HA,HA,HE,HE....LOL!

  • We've been awfully good at 'addressing' needs over the years. We just draft the worst freakin players.

    How does a team withstand this list of successive 1st round picks?

    2011 21 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 2012 3 Trent Richardson RB Alabama 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State 2013 6 Barkevious Mingo OLB Louisiana State 2014 8 Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M
    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    We've been awfully good at 'addressing' needs over the years. We just draft the worst freakin players.

    How does a team withstand this list of successive 1st round picks?

    2011 21 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 2012 3 Trent Richardson RB Alabama 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State 2013 6 Barkevious Mingo OLB Louisiana State 2014 8 Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M

    Have to protest Big Phils' inclusion in this list. He had a couple very good years, but simply was hurt and declined.

  • @orion said:

    We've been awfully good at 'addressing' needs over the years. We just draft the worst freakin players.

    How does a team withstand this list of successive 1st round picks?

    2011 21 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 2012 3 Trent Richardson RB Alabama 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State 2013 6 Barkevious Mingo OLB Louisiana State 2014 8 Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M

    Have to protest Big Phils' inclusion in this list. He had a couple very good years, but simply was hurt and declined.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Have to protest Big Phils' inclusion in this list. He had a couple very good years, but simply was hurt and declined.

    The reason I always try to separate "bust" from "bad pick".....

    Lots of guys were the right pick, then something happened....usually injury.....

    But, looking back and complaining that we blew it, when it was really a knee or back that got blown....just aint right...

    Who knew THAT would happen?.....

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #44

    I agree, we were a better defense with Phil Taylor on the field. But he wasn't on the field much. It's nobody's fault...but it still amounts to a blown pick. Just like Courtney Brown. Really a good football player. But never got to play much due to injury.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #45

    c'mon now....don't get off topic. we're supposed to be piling on the Viking.

    nothing harder to watch the last decade and a 1/2 is the Mannings play fucking QB. should be a 10 sec play clock. peyton slowed the game down so much the flash had to start walking backwards.

  • @vikingdawg said:

    While I can understand being upset at Ghoolie since he can be abrasive at times, instead of this true fan you're not a fan rah rah stiff how about debating what he is saying?

    The fact of the matter is Ghoolie, much like Nickera have every right to be pissed and to be calling this F.O. out right now. This team had two big needs heading into the offseason, 1: Get a guy who can pass the ball, 2: Get a guy who is great at catching the ball. In both facets this Front Office failed. With 12 Goddamned draft picks and 2 major needs they utterly failed.

    The truth is theae dumb motherfuckers are 1-15, and have passed on Carson Wentz, Mitch Trubisky, DeSean Watson and Pat Mahommes. If any, some or all of these QB's pan out as franchise QB's then this front office are the biggest failures in Browns history.

    Viking,Viking,Viking .......ok let me address YOUR idea of what the Browns needed VS. What the Browns think they needed! So you think (your opinion) they needed a QB (#52 Deshone Kiser) and Brock Osweiler in FA,and someone to catch the ball (David Njoku) plus a half dozen guys from the last draft!!! Oh yeah and Kenny Britt! So the Browns HAVE fixed your said issues!!! You um Sir are a failure as a fan! You believe your opinion (and Ghoolies) are more important than the BROWNS,their coaches,FO,and scouts!! To quote Ferris Bueller....why are you still here? ITS OVER,GO HOME!!!!

    V VikingDawg wrote on last edited by
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    @brownsnmopar said:

    Viking,Viking,Viking .......ok let me address YOUR idea of what the Browns needed VS. What the Browns think they needed! So you think (your opinion) they needed a QB (#52 Deshone Kiser) and Brock Osweiler in FA,and someone to catch the ball (David Njoku) plus a half dozen guys from the last draft!!! Oh yeah and Kenny Britt! So the Browns HAVE fixed your said issues!!! You um Sir are a failure as a fan! You believe your opinion (and Ghoolies) are more important than the BROWNS,their coaches,FO,and scouts!! To quote Ferris Bueller....why are you still here? ITS OVER,GO HOME!!!!

    LMAO@Fixed.

    These morons drafted a TE that can't block, a QB that can't pass and signed a #2 at best WR, while trading for a career backup from Houston. Meanwhile they passed on a QB who is looking damn good for Da Bears for a mentally weak DE who isn't even practicing right now and passed on the Heisman winning Nat'l Champion QB for a fucking kick returner. Oh and their #1 draft pick last year is still being a pussy bitch and sitting around because a football bruised his poor wittle hip.

    The QB and WR positions are FAR from fixed. Unfortunately, like every other time since the return there's not a single motherfucker in the building smart enougg to figure out that they even need to fix the QB position.

  • @brownsnmopar said:

    Viking,Viking,Viking .......ok let me address YOUR idea of what the Browns needed VS. What the Browns think they needed! So you think (your opinion) they needed a QB (#52 Deshone Kiser) and Brock Osweiler in FA,and someone to catch the ball (David Njoku) plus a half dozen guys from the last draft!!! Oh yeah and Kenny Britt! So the Browns HAVE fixed your said issues!!! You um Sir are a failure as a fan! You believe your opinion (and Ghoolies) are more important than the BROWNS,their coaches,FO,and scouts!! To quote Ferris Bueller....why are you still here? ITS OVER,GO HOME!!!!

    LMAO@Fixed.

    These morons drafted a TE that can't block, a QB that can't pass and signed a #2 at best WR, while trading for a career backup from Houston. Meanwhile they passed on a QB who is looking damn good for Da Bears for a mentally weak DE who isn't even practicing right now and passed on the Heisman winning Nat'l Champion QB for a fucking kick returner. Oh and their #1 draft pick last year is still being a pussy bitch and sitting around because a football bruised his poor wittle hip.

    The QB and WR positions are FAR from fixed. Unfortunately, like every other time since the return there's not a single motherfucker in the building smart enougg to figure out that they even need to fix the QB position.

    BrownsnMoparB BrownsnMopar wrote on last edited by
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    @vikingdawg said:

    LMAO@Fixed.

    These morons drafted a TE that can't block, a QB that can't pass and signed a #2 at best WR, while trading for a career backup from Houston. Meanwhile they passed on a QB who is looking damn good for Da Bears for a mentally weak DE who isn't even practicing right now and passed on the Heisman winning Nat'l Champion QB for a fucking kick returner. Oh and their #1 draft pick last year is still being a pussy bitch and sitting around because a football bruised his poor wittle hip.

    The QB and WR positions are FAR from fixed. Unfortunately, like every other time since the return there's not a single motherfucker in the building smart enougg to figure out that they even need to fix the QB position.

    I said it before, I will say it again!!! You(Viking dawg) think your opinion (evaluation) is better than the Browns as an organization!!!

    ROTFLMMFAO!!!!

  • @brownsnmopar said:

    Viking,Viking,Viking .......ok let me address YOUR idea of what the Browns needed VS. What the Browns think they needed! So you think (your opinion) they needed a QB (#52 Deshone Kiser) and Brock Osweiler in FA,and someone to catch the ball (David Njoku) plus a half dozen guys from the last draft!!! Oh yeah and Kenny Britt! So the Browns HAVE fixed your said issues!!! You um Sir are a failure as a fan! You believe your opinion (and Ghoolies) are more important than the BROWNS,their coaches,FO,and scouts!! To quote Ferris Bueller....why are you still here? ITS OVER,GO HOME!!!!

    LMAO@Fixed.

    These morons drafted a TE that can't block, a QB that can't pass and signed a #2 at best WR, while trading for a career backup from Houston. Meanwhile they passed on a QB who is looking damn good for Da Bears for a mentally weak DE who isn't even practicing right now and passed on the Heisman winning Nat'l Champion QB for a fucking kick returner. Oh and their #1 draft pick last year is still being a pussy bitch and sitting around because a football bruised his poor wittle hip.

    The QB and WR positions are FAR from fixed. Unfortunately, like every other time since the return there's not a single motherfucker in the building smart enougg to figure out that they even need to fix the QB position.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #48

    @vikingdawg said:

    LMAO@Fixed.

    These morons drafted a TE that can't block, a QB that can't pass and signed a #2 at best WR, while trading for a career backup from Houston. Meanwhile they passed on a QB who is looking damn good for Da Bears for a mentally weak DE who isn't even practicing right now and passed on the Heisman winning Nat'l Champion QB for a fucking kick returner. Oh and their #1 draft pick last year is still being a pussy bitch and sitting around because a football bruised his poor wittle hip.

    The QB and WR positions are FAR from fixed. Unfortunately, like every other time since the return there's not a single motherfucker in the building smart enougg to figure out that they even need to fix the QB position.

    Or...every motherfucker on here is smart enough to to figure out that they still need to fix the QB position....but that you are not smart enough to recognize that all of us motherfuckers have been saying it a lot longer than you have....with your all of 42 posts...compared to someone that has like 38.000 posts.