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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Who the best players will be in 2017 is totally uncertain. Half these guys could get injured. Bell....who has had more positive dope tests than Josh Gordon...yet has been permitted to continue to play, could toke up again and get caught.

    And other people could really step up to the plate to be standouts.

    Derek Carr could be in contention again for MVP.

    I doubt that any rookies can crack the Top 10....but I bet several of them could crack the top 100.

    By one measure, the following were the top performers of this last season:

    kPlayerYearAgeDraftTmLgGGSYrsPBAP1AV

    1Matt Ryan2016311-3ATLNFL161611121

    2Damon Harrison201628NYGNFL161610118

    3Aaron Rodgers2016331-24GNBNFL161611018

    4David Bakhtiari2016254-109GNBNFL161611017

    5Von Miller2016271-2DENNFL161611117

    6Bobby Wagner2016262-4

    7Drew Brees2016372-32

    8Calais Campbell2016302-50ARINFL161610016

    9Ezekiel Elliott2016211-4DALNFL151511116

    10Julio Jones2016271-6ATLNFL141411116

    11Sean Lee2016302-55DALNFL151511116

    12Andrew Luck2016271-1INDNFL151510016

    13Alex Mack2016311-21ATLNFL161611016

    14Khalil Mack2016251-5OAKNFL161611116

    15Dak Prescott2016234-135DALNFL161611016

    16Le'Veon Bell2016242-48PITNFL121211015

    17Jack Conklin2016221-8TENNFL161610115

    18Kirk Cousins2016284-102WASNFL161611015

    19Aaron Donald2016251-13LARNFL161611115

    20Devonta Freeman2016244-103ATLNFL161611015

    21David Johnson2016253-86ARINFL161611115

    22Zach Orr201624BALNFL151510015

    23Tyrod Taylor2016276-180BUFNFL151510015

    24Olivier Vernon2016263-72NYGNFL161610015

    25Chris Harris201627DENNFL161511114

    There are at least a couple of rookies listed in this Top 25 performer list.

  • You think 4.9 is "slightly lower" than 4.2 when talking about ypc?

    D domcucch1994 wrote on last edited by
    #7

    @wargograw said:

    You think 4.9 is "slightly lower" than 4.2 when talking about ypc?

    Well.. maybe 4.2 is not "slightly lower" than 4.9. It's almost a yard extra per carry and I get that Bell had the better average, but.

    When you take into account the total TD's Johnson had over Bell, to me, its a head-scratcher that he was ranked lower on the list..

  • @wargograw said:

    You think 4.9 is "slightly lower" than 4.2 when talking about ypc?

    Well.. maybe 4.2 is not "slightly lower" than 4.9. It's almost a yard extra per carry and I get that Bell had the better average, but.

    When you take into account the total TD's Johnson had over Bell, to me, its a head-scratcher that he was ranked lower on the list..

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #8

    @domcucch1994 said:

    Well.. maybe 4.2 is not "slightly lower" than 4.9. It's almost a yard extra per carry and I get that Bell had the better average, but.

    When you take into account the total TD's Johnson had over Bell, to me, its a head-scratcher that he was ranked lower on the list..

    I surmise that the list was just some author's subjective point of view. You or I could make such a list and have it be just as legitimate. The only difference being that we do not have a forum to publish our list...nor would we likely be paid for doing so.

  • L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
    #9

    Brady wouldn't be in the top 100 if he didn't play for Belichik

  • Brady wouldn't be in the top 100 if he didn't play for Belichik

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #10

    @londonbrown said:

    Brady wouldn't be in the top 100 if he didn't play for Belichik

    I disagree...it is Brady that makes Belichick...not the other way around. BB would have his team playing like the Browns did in his next to last season. They would play defense well...and play fairly discipline...but they would maybe have won a few playoff games. It is Brady that has made that team elite. Without him, they would basically be what the Kansas City Chiefs have been.

  • L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
    #11

    Can't agree at all and the success of average QBs backing up Brady suggests to me that it's the system that wins rather than 6th round Tom

  • Can't agree at all and the success of average QBs backing up Brady suggests to me that it's the system that wins rather than 6th round Tom

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #12

    @londonbrown said:

    Can't agree at all and the success of average QBs backing up Brady suggests to me that it's the system that wins rather than 6th round Tom

    Well...you may not agree...but you would be wrong. As I said....the Pats without Brady would be a team with a good defense and would have discipline...but without Brady...they may be a playoff team....NOT a championship team. Tom Brady makes them a Championship team. When Brady leaves...any real chance at Championship leaves with him....unless they get a real quality QB to succeed him....ala Steve Young replacing Joe Montana, or Aaron Rodgers replacing Brett Favre. And how often has that happened? Likely just those two times in history.

  • What was your opinion of the top 10 rankings?

    1. Brady

    2. Miller

    3. Julio

    4. Brown

    5. Mack

    6. Rodgers

    7. Zeke

    8. OBJ

    9. Bell

    10. Ryan

    Personally, I feel that David Johnson should be in the #9 slot, and Bell should be #12.

    His stats

    Att: 293

    Rush Yds: 1,239

    Avg: 4.2

    TD's: 16

    Rec: 80

    Receiving Yds: 879

    Avg: 11.0

    TD's: 4

    Bell's stats

    Att: 261

    Rush Yds: 1,268

    Avg: 4.9

    TD's: 7

    Rec: 75

    Receiving Yds: 616

    Avg: 8.2

    TD's: 2

    Johnson had 20 total TD's compared to Bell's 9.. That alone should have put him in the top 10.

    Now, his average yards per attempt rushing we're slightly lower than Bell's at 4.2 to 4.9,

    but he had 263 more receiving yards than bell, and caught only 5 more passes than Bell.

    Both are exceptional backs, but this was one that was a shocker.. Johnson got snubbed

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @domcucch1994 said:

    What was your opinion of the top 10 rankings?

    1. Brady

    2. ROGERS

    3. RYAN..MVP

    4. VON MILLER

    5. ANT. BROWN

    6. J.JONES

    7. MACK

    8. OBJ

    9. DAVID JOHNSON

    10.DREW BREES

    ^^with ya on Johnson Gip. but you can have Bosa the pick was ZEKE for Gumby

  • What was your opinion of the top 10 rankings?

    1. Brady

    2. Miller

    3. Julio

    4. Brown

    5. Mack

    6. Rodgers

    7. Zeke

    8. OBJ

    9. Bell

    10. Ryan

    Personally, I feel that David Johnson should be in the #9 slot, and Bell should be #12.

    His stats

    Att: 293

    Rush Yds: 1,239

    Avg: 4.2

    TD's: 16

    Rec: 80

    Receiving Yds: 879

    Avg: 11.0

    TD's: 4

    Bell's stats

    Att: 261

    Rush Yds: 1,268

    Avg: 4.9

    TD's: 7

    Rec: 75

    Receiving Yds: 616

    Avg: 8.2

    TD's: 2

    Johnson had 20 total TD's compared to Bell's 9.. That alone should have put him in the top 10.

    Now, his average yards per attempt rushing we're slightly lower than Bell's at 4.2 to 4.9,

    but he had 263 more receiving yards than bell, and caught only 5 more passes than Bell.

    Both are exceptional backs, but this was one that was a shocker.. Johnson got snubbed

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
    #14

    @domcucch1994 said:

    What was your opinion of the top 10 rankings?

    1. Brady

    2. Miller

    3. Julio

    4. Brown

    5. Mack

    6. Rodgers

    7. Zeke

    8. OBJ

    9. Bell

    10. Ryan

    What bugs me most are all the guys in the top 10 that we just passed on......Julio, K Mack, Zeke, OBJ......to name just a few(and we coulda had them all....right now).....bet Bosa is in there somewhere too....

    32 teams means an average of 3+ per team should make the list.....we are down to 1 player......had 4 in 2014(dumped Ward).....3 in 2015(dumped Gipson)....2 in 2016(dumped Barny)......and now 1....(please dont dump Thomas)....

    Thats growth for ya!

  • @domcucch1994 said:

    What was your opinion of the top 10 rankings?

    1. Brady

    2. Miller

    3. Julio

    4. Brown

    5. Mack

    6. Rodgers

    7. Zeke

    8. OBJ

    9. Bell

    10. Ryan

    What bugs me most are all the guys in the top 10 that we just passed on......Julio, K Mack, Zeke, OBJ......to name just a few(and we coulda had them all....right now).....bet Bosa is in there somewhere too....

    32 teams means an average of 3+ per team should make the list.....we are down to 1 player......had 4 in 2014(dumped Ward).....3 in 2015(dumped Gipson)....2 in 2016(dumped Barny)......and now 1....(please dont dump Thomas)....

    Thats growth for ya!

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #15

    @mudfly said:

    What bugs me most are all the guys in the top 10 that we just passed on......Julio, K Mack, Zeke, OBJ......to name just a few(and we coulda had them all....right now).....bet Bosa is in there somewhere too....

    32 teams means an average of 3+ per team should make the list.....we are down to 1 player......had 4 in 2014(dumped Ward).....3 in 2015(dumped Gipson)....2 in 2016(dumped Barny)......and now 1....(please dont dump Thomas)....

    Thats growth for ya!

    Ghoolie would have us do just that (dump JT)....and trade him in return for some magic beans.....or stale cheesecake.

  • @wargograw said:

    You think 4.9 is "slightly lower" than 4.2 when talking about ypc?

    Well.. maybe 4.2 is not "slightly lower" than 4.9. It's almost a yard extra per carry and I get that Bell had the better average, but.

    When you take into account the total TD's Johnson had over Bell, to me, its a head-scratcher that he was ranked lower on the list..

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @domcucch1994 said:

    Well.. maybe 4.2 is not "slightly lower" than 4.9. It's almost a yard extra per carry and I get that Bell had the better average, but.

    When you take into account the total TD's Johnson had over Bell, to me, its a head-scratcher that he was ranked lower on the list..

    Bell played less games and has a longer career resume.

  • @domcucch1994 said:

    Well.. maybe 4.2 is not "slightly lower" than 4.9. It's almost a yard extra per carry and I get that Bell had the better average, but.

    When you take into account the total TD's Johnson had over Bell, to me, its a head-scratcher that he was ranked lower on the list..

    Bell played less games and has a longer career resume.

    D domcucch1994 wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @wargograw said:

    Bell played less games and has a longer career resume.

    Bell has played two more seasons than David Johnson, you are right.

    But Bell's career total touchdowns so far is 31.

    David Johnson already has 32 total touchdowns and has only played two years.

    32>31

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #18

    Miller should have been higher @ 1 or 2 last year as SB MVP than his #2 this year.

  • Miller should have been higher @ 1 or 2 last year as SB MVP than his #2 this year.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #19

    @texasag1969 said:

    Miller should have been higher @ 1 or 2 last year as SB MVP than his #2 this year.

    That's a homer statement. Whatever Miller may be (roider)....would you really rate him better than the likes of Brady or Rodgers?

    NYET.