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  • And I wouldn't blame the front office if Myles Garrett turns out to be a flop and this injury is something that's been hidden all along. It's not like we took a risk on him he was the consensus best player in the draft according to just about everybody. It would be shity luck but it wouldn't be stupidity. On the other hand if any of those other guys go on to be stars and our gambles don't pay off they will look pretty bad.

    WSS

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    The other point Id make with our FO is that, for us to catch up with the rest of the league, they actually have to be better than everyone else.....Not just better than the last FO, or do the same as other teams, or meet league averages.....they have to be better....period

    We are in a 32 team race and, right now, are in last place.........waaaaaaaaaayyyyy behind everyone else......so an OK performance or an average performance will not be enough to catch the leaders,,,,,

    So, while I do see improvement from year 1 to year 2, I dont see us doing enough to catch anyone, let alone the leaders......maybe we'll catch up to a couple/few teams......but we need to take giant leaps to win it all....GIANT leaps.....

    Think about the last time we were good(but, still not good enough to win it all)......in 3-4 drafts, we filled our roster with lots of good talent.....and it still wasnt enough......so, we better get started and nail that draft several years in a row......

    Early 80's, we already had a solid core and a fairly decent team, including Dixon, Mathews, Ozzy, Eddie Johnson, Chip Banks, Baab, Farren, Delliamelluire, Puzzolli, etc.....and this was BEFORE we aced the 1984-85 drafts with a landslide of talent, including....

    Matt Bahr, Rogers, Rockins, Brennan, Byner, Kosar, Mack, Mike Johnson, Minnefield, Langhorne, Hairston, etc etc....

    So....most of the above(and a few FA's Ive forgotten, were all obtained in a 3-4 year period....we are now 2 years into this build, with a much much weaker core group to start....

    One only needs to do the math........

    So....Shashi and Depo need to rise above the rest of the league and out perform them, if they plan to catch up or pass them.....and that will take several years, in a row, of solid and PLENTIFUL talent additions to this team.....

    This years draft has potential to add a few(perhaps)....last years draft?.....not so much......we will be lucky to get maybe 3 decent players and, honestly, see no stars in that group......and with ALL the picks we had, the indicators are we will get "below the league average" talent from that first 14 picks......and if we get 3-4 good one from this years draft?>....that will be about average.....so, eh.....

    @mudfly said:

    The other point Id make with our FO is that, for us to catch up with the rest of the league, they actually have to be better than everyone else.....Not just better than the last FO, or do the same as other teams, or meet league averages.....they have to be better....period

    All that said, it's just the beginning of their 2nd year so it's important to be somewhat realistic instead of being pissed we aren't already a dynasty.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • W Westside Steve

    And I wouldn't blame the front office if Myles Garrett turns out to be a flop and this injury is something that's been hidden all along. It's not like we took a risk on him he was the consensus best player in the draft according to just about everybody. It would be shity luck but it wouldn't be stupidity. On the other hand if any of those other guys go on to be stars and our gambles don't pay off they will look pretty bad.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And I wouldn't blame the front office if Myles Garrett turns out to be a flop and this injury is something that's been hidden all along. It's not like we took a risk on him he was the consensus best player in the draft according to just about everybody. It would be shity luck but it wouldn't be stupidity. On the other hand if any of those other guys go on to be stars and our gambles don't pay off they will look pretty bad.

    WSS

    I think we all can agree where the question marks are, Corey Coleman & JalapeƱo Peppers. Those 2 are the first rounders that many have questioned positioning and timing.

  • B BaconHound

    @westside-steve said:

    And I wouldn't blame the front office if Myles Garrett turns out to be a flop and this injury is something that's been hidden all along. It's not like we took a risk on him he was the consensus best player in the draft according to just about everybody. It would be shity luck but it wouldn't be stupidity. On the other hand if any of those other guys go on to be stars and our gambles don't pay off they will look pretty bad.

    WSS

    I think we all can agree where the question marks are, Corey Coleman & JalapeƱo Peppers. Those 2 are the first rounders that many have questioned positioning and timing.

    @baconhound said:

    I think we all can agree where the question marks are, Corey Coleman & JalapeƱo Peppers. Those 2 are the first rounders that many have questioned positioning and timing.

    Yeah you shouldn't miss on a first round receiver or safety.

    WSS

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  • W Westside Steve

    @baconhound said:

    I think we all can agree where the question marks are, Corey Coleman & JalapeƱo Peppers. Those 2 are the first rounders that many have questioned positioning and timing.

    Yeah you shouldn't miss on a first round receiver or safety.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Yeah you shouldn't miss on a first round receiver or safety.

    WSS

    What kills is they could've stayed put and taken Bosa or traded out once and taken Floyd, Apple or Hargraves in 2016. If they still made the Eagles trade they could've taken any number of players this year at 12.

  • B BaconHound

    @westside-steve said:

    Yeah you shouldn't miss on a first round receiver or safety.

    WSS

    What kills is they could've stayed put and taken Bosa or traded out once and taken Floyd, Apple or Hargraves in 2016. If they still made the Eagles trade they could've taken any number of players this year at 12.

    @baconhound said:

    What kills is they could've stayed put and taken Bosa or traded out once and taken Floyd, Apple or Hargraves in 2016. If they still made the Eagles trade they could've taken any number of players this year at 12.

    I'm pretty sure that Williams had some input on taking Peppers for the way he wants to run his defense. Bring this thread back when the season is done and we have a better idea what that D really looks like in action for a year.

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