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  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #185

    nah. too old, too slow. was eligible for the draft in 2015 I think...

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=125063&draftyear=2015&genpos=DT

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    And his jersey is on the Shop now. Finally

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #186

    @mld-woody said:

    And his jersey is on the Shop now. Finally

    When he makes the Hall of Fame and the number is retired, I may consider it. Probably not. Hell, I still have not purchased a Jim Brown jersey.

    By the way...what number is he going to wear?

    TopDawg31T 1 Reply
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #187

    22

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    22

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #188

    @mld-woody said:

    22

    Well....that is a good sign. FYI....more Hall of Fame players have worn the number 22 than any other number.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mld-woody said:

    22

    Well....that is a good sign. FYI....more Hall of Fame players have worn the number 22 than any other number.

    One PostO One Post wrote on
    #189

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....that is a good sign. FYI....more Hall of Fame players have worn the number 22 than any other number.

    Rodger fucking Werlie
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  • One PostO One Post

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....that is a good sign. FYI....more Hall of Fame players have worn the number 22 than any other number.

    Rodger fucking Werlie
    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #190

    @one-post said:

    Rodger fucking Werlie

    22 Blanda , GATSKI , HAYES , HAYNES , KRAUSE , LAYNE , Lofton , Michalske , Nevers , SMITH , WEHRLI

  • Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #191

    I thought he was wearing 27? Thom Darden's old number...was hoping he would be every bit as good as Darden and then some.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #192

    Nope. Changed it.

    Was rumored that was happening, so I never bought a 27 jersey

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • gumby73G gumby73

    @boo-fagley said:

    Did not sound right Boo? Per spotrac--Peppers signed a 4 year deal with a 5th year option(nice) contract. Max deal 10M,341,989 with 8M001,717 guaranteed. Total signing bonus of contract=5M,661,446..In 2017 Peppers base salary is 465k with 2M.127 of signing bonus granted..(Nfl.com may leave almost a million on the table,but not Peppers camp) slotted amount & signing bonus are on the head. The 8M guaranteed seems to be the middle of the road settling point from both sides? Done deal..Let's Roll somebodies A$$ Peppers..

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #193

    Good to see him signed... will be better to see him "fit".

    Just have a nagging concern about scouting and ID'ing a collegiate hybrid for the Pros. While Gregg is one-for-one in ID'ing a Pro for the role in his D, it strikes me that doing so for the Draft adds a lot of complexity/uncertainty given the novelty and relative newness of the position at both levels.

    @gumby73 said:

    Did not sound right Boo? Per spotrac--Peppers signed a 4 year deal with a 5th year option(nice) contract. Max deal 10M,341,989 with 8M001,717 guaranteed. Total signing bonus of contract=5M,661,446..In 2017 Peppers base salary is 465k with 2M.127 of signing bonus granted..(Nfl.com may leave almost a million on the table,but not Peppers camp) slotted amount & signing bonus are on the head. The 8M guaranteed seems to be the middle of the road settling point from both sides? Done deal..Let's Roll somebodies A$$ Peppers..

    Yup... about $860k shy of "fully"...

    Jabrill Peppers signed a 4 year contract worth $10,342,236 with the Browns on July 24, 2017. Peppers received a guarantee worth $9,484,330 including a $5,661,624 signing bonus.

    https://overthecap.com/player/jabrill-peppers/5609

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Good to see him signed... will be better to see him "fit".

    Just have a nagging concern about scouting and ID'ing a collegiate hybrid for the Pros. While Gregg is one-for-one in ID'ing a Pro for the role in his D, it strikes me that doing so for the Draft adds a lot of complexity/uncertainty given the novelty and relative newness of the position at both levels.

    @gumby73 said:

    Did not sound right Boo? Per spotrac--Peppers signed a 4 year deal with a 5th year option(nice) contract. Max deal 10M,341,989 with 8M001,717 guaranteed. Total signing bonus of contract=5M,661,446..In 2017 Peppers base salary is 465k with 2M.127 of signing bonus granted..(Nfl.com may leave almost a million on the table,but not Peppers camp) slotted amount & signing bonus are on the head. The 8M guaranteed seems to be the middle of the road settling point from both sides? Done deal..Let's Roll somebodies A$$ Peppers..

    Yup... about $860k shy of "fully"...

    Jabrill Peppers signed a 4 year contract worth $10,342,236 with the Browns on July 24, 2017. Peppers received a guarantee worth $9,484,330 including a $5,661,624 signing bonus.

    https://overthecap.com/player/jabrill-peppers/5609

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #194

    @tour2ma said:

    Good to see him signed... will be better to see him "fit".

    Just have a nagging concern about scouting and ID'ing a collegiate hybrid for the Pros. While Gregg is one-for-one in ID'ing a Pro for the role in his D, it strikes me that doing so for the Draft adds a lot of complexity/uncertainty given the novelty and relative newness of the position at both levels.

    Yup... about $860k shy of "fully"...

    Jabrill Peppers signed a 4 year contract worth $10,342,236 with the Browns on July 24, 2017. Peppers received a guarantee worth $9,484,330 including a $5,661,624 signing bonus.

    https://overthecap.com/player/jabrill-peppers/5609

    & Those missing $$$ are in year four. If he plays decent, that's going to be renegotiated anyway.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @tour2ma said:

    Good to see him signed... will be better to see him "fit".

    Just have a nagging concern about scouting and ID'ing a collegiate hybrid for the Pros. While Gregg is one-for-one in ID'ing a Pro for the role in his D, it strikes me that doing so for the Draft adds a lot of complexity/uncertainty given the novelty and relative newness of the position at both levels.

    Yup... about $860k shy of "fully"...

    Jabrill Peppers signed a 4 year contract worth $10,342,236 with the Browns on July 24, 2017. Peppers received a guarantee worth $9,484,330 including a $5,661,624 signing bonus.

    https://overthecap.com/player/jabrill-peppers/5609

    & Those missing $$$ are in year four. If he plays decent, that's going to be renegotiated anyway.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #195

    @hoorta said:

    & Those missing $$$ are in year four. If he plays decent, that's going to be renegotiated anyway.

    Maybe, but that's uncharted territory... more likely to my mind is we exercise the 5th year option and renegotiate going into it.

    We did renegotiate and extend both Bito and Kirksey going into their 4th seasons, but those were off 4-year deals for 2nd and 3rd round picks respectively.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #196

    @boo-fagley said:

    I wonder how that works?

    I always assumed that the Player and Agent got the full signing bonus upon signing the deal.

    Can be the case if it helps cap-wise, but pro-rated over the contract period is the norm.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #197

    Browns waive Atkinson III and Add Brandon Wilds. I liked this guy's play at S.Carolina. Could be a sleeper. Underrated as a pass catcher out of the backfield.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/07/28/browns-sign-brandon-wilds-waive-george-atkinson-iii/

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #198

    Atkinson...the RB? Surprised about that. Thought they liked him a lot.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mld-woody said:

    And his jersey is on the Shop now. Finally

    When he makes the Hall of Fame and the number is retired, I may consider it. Probably not. Hell, I still have not purchased a Jim Brown jersey.

    By the way...what number is he going to wear?

    TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on
    #199

    @the-gipper said:

    When he makes the Hall of Fame and the number is retired, I may consider it. Probably not. Hell, I still have not purchased a Jim Brown jersey.

    By the way...what number is he going to wear?

    I've got Jim Brown cornhole bags, they're awesome. 4 brown ones with white 32 and Brown on it and 4 white ones with brown 32 and Brown on them.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #200

    @boo-fagley said:

    Yes, but for tax purposes Hoorta mentions spreading it out.

    I do not see how that would work when the player has the money in hand. and if theyre smart, they invest wisely so it gains interest.

    Simple, tax-bracket math vs. return on investment...

    Peppers bonus was $5,661,624. Assuming the tax rates stay the same the next four years, then spreading the payments over four years saves about 2.3%... not a high investment return barrier even if 39.6% of the return goes to taxes, but not short-term, CD territory.

    Then there's the question of whether the rates will stay the same? Who knows... and if they change, which direction will the top rate move?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #201

    @boo-fagley said:

    So, an NFL signing bonus is not paid in full upon both parties signing the contract?

    I have heard of NFL teams going after players to return signing bonus money for breach of contract. Seems like team X would be withholding annual signing bonus payment that player X is due which I have never heard of.

    What happens if a player suddenly dies in the prime of his NFL career? Does his unpaid annual signing bonus go to next of kin?

    On the unlikely but not impossible dying under contract unless it's stipulated otherwise any owed monies and other considerations would go to the estate, will or not.

    This would be more in Gipper's wheelhouse.

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    The GipperT 1 Reply
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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #202

    @boo-fagley said:

    How much will he charge us for a consultation?

    Can you get us a deal?

    Who Gipper? Well good lawyers are now what $300? $400 per hour?

    I've got an MBA with a dual major in finance and management but did have some good business law courses covering primarily contracts not torts along with labor law, legislation, negotiations, etc.

    I'd give it a shot but for serious business recommend seeing a lawyer....hey they're nice folks too! 😉

    ....oh I am retired too, lots of time on my hands to fool around with stuff or just watch sports! I highly recommend it. 😆

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  • S SD_Tom wrote on
    #203

    Our whole team could hold out if they looked as good as bosa did.

    Maybe we'll get nick in a few years.

  • mjp28M mjp28

    @boo-fagley said:

    So, an NFL signing bonus is not paid in full upon both parties signing the contract?

    I have heard of NFL teams going after players to return signing bonus money for breach of contract. Seems like team X would be withholding annual signing bonus payment that player X is due which I have never heard of.

    What happens if a player suddenly dies in the prime of his NFL career? Does his unpaid annual signing bonus go to next of kin?

    On the unlikely but not impossible dying under contract unless it's stipulated otherwise any owed monies and other considerations would go to the estate, will or not.

    This would be more in Gipper's wheelhouse.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #204

    @mjp28 said:

    On the unlikely but not impossible dying under contract unless it's stipulated otherwise any owed monies and other considerations would go to the estate, will or not.

    This would be more in Gipper's wheelhouse.

    Correct.....though, sometimes employer related benefits (life insurance, annuities, death benefits, pensions, 401Ks etc....could have a beneficiary designation to them. Not sure if the "balance remaining on a signing bonus" would have that option attached to them.

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