James Harrison to Skip White House Visit
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Here is my take, It's may not be your's, but this is what I think
Kellen Winslow is good tight end, but not a good fit for the Browns. In this division, we need a tight end that is more of a blocker than a pass catcher.
We need to draft for a specific system and not for the player (as we have done in the past) When you draft based on your system, you hit more than you miss.
The 3-4 got popular because it was success due to only a few teams using it 5 to 6 years ago. The few teams that used it at that time drafted players that fit it because they were available because not many teams were using it. Also, teams couldn't practice against it well, because they didn't implement it. Now, many teams (like our Browns) use it, and it will lose it's effectiveness because more teams are drafting for it and able to prepare for it.
In our divison we need a strong running game and tough defense. Big name recievers will not improve the Browns. Longer drives that take time off the clock and wear down defense's win games in November and December in cold weather. Scoring on a long strike, or Josh returning a kick-off , is not as benificial as a 15 play 3 yard at a time, 6 minute drive. We don't need a stong armed QB. We need a smart QB.
The Browns need an idenity. An owner that lives in Cleveland.
Arizona had a winning season. Atlanta had a good season. That doesn't make them good football organizations. New England, Philly, Pitts, have good organizatitons. Doug Williams had a good season, but he is should not be considered a Hall of Fame QB. Until the Browns put together successful seasons on a regular basis, I won't think of them as a good football organization. My favorite, yes, but not a good one.
Those are my football takes. I dont' consider good press the same as good football, sorry.
The Soldier said:
Here is my take, It's may not be your's, but this is what I thinkKellen Winslow is good tight end, but not a good fit for the Browns. In this division, we need a tight end that is more of a blocker than a pass catcher.
We need to draft for a specific system and not for the player (as we have done in the past) When you draft based on your system, you hit more than you miss.
The 3-4 got popular because it was success due to only a few teams using it 5 to 6 years ago. The few teams that used it at that time drafted players that fit it because they were available because not many teams were using it. Also, teams couldn't practice against it well, because they didn't implement it. Now, many teams (like our Browns) use it, and it will lose it's effectiveness because more teams are drafting for it and able to prepare for it.
In our divison we need a strong running game and tough defense. Big name recievers will not improve the Browns. Longer drives that take time off the clock and wear down defense's win games in November and December in cold weather. Scoring on a long strike, or Josh returning a kick-off , is not as benificial as a 15 play 3 yard at a time, 6 minute drive. We don't need a stong armed QB. We need a smart QB.
The Browns need an idenity. An owner that lives in Cleveland.
Arizona had a winning season. Atlanta had a good season. That doesn't make them good football organizations. New England, Philly, Pitts, have good organizatitons. Doug Williams had a good season, but he is should not be considered a Hall of Fame QB. Until the Browns put together successful seasons on a regular basis, I won't think of them as a good football organization. My favorite, yes, but not a good one.
Those are my football takes. I dont' consider good press the same as good football, sorry.
Good takes but the only thing missing is your idea for resolution to all the issues you addressed. Example would be the 3/4 losing its effectiveness. Do you think they should go back to the 4/3? Otherwise, what's the point of your take?
I hope you didn't just blow your one take cuz you showed some potential as a possible board contributor and not just a negative and depressed anti-fan.
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The Soldier said:
Here is my take, It's may not be your's, but this is what I thinkKellen Winslow is good tight end, but not a good fit for the Browns. In this division, we need a tight end that is more of a blocker than a pass catcher.
We need to draft for a specific system and not for the player (as we have done in the past) When you draft based on your system, you hit more than you miss.
The 3-4 got popular because it was success due to only a few teams using it 5 to 6 years ago. The few teams that used it at that time drafted players that fit it because they were available because not many teams were using it. Also, teams couldn't practice against it well, because they didn't implement it. Now, many teams (like our Browns) use it, and it will lose it's effectiveness because more teams are drafting for it and able to prepare for it.
In our divison we need a strong running game and tough defense. Big name recievers will not improve the Browns. Longer drives that take time off the clock and wear down defense's win games in November and December in cold weather. Scoring on a long strike, or Josh returning a kick-off , is not as benificial as a 15 play 3 yard at a time, 6 minute drive. We don't need a stong armed QB. We need a smart QB.
The Browns need an idenity. An owner that lives in Cleveland.
Arizona had a winning season. Atlanta had a good season. That doesn't make them good football organizations. New England, Philly, Pitts, have good organizatitons. Doug Williams had a good season, but he is should not be considered a Hall of Fame QB. Until the Browns put together successful seasons on a regular basis, I won't think of them as a good football organization. My favorite, yes, but not a good one.
Those are my football takes. I dont' consider good press the same as good football, sorry.
Good takes but the only thing missing is your idea for resolution to all the issues you addressed. Example would be the 3/4 losing its effectiveness. Do you think they should go back to the 4/3? Otherwise, what's the point of your take?
I hope you didn't just blow your one take cuz you showed some potential as a possible board contributor and not just a negative and depressed anti-fan.
Good takes but the only thing missing is your idea for resolution to all the issues you addressed. Example would be the 3/4 losing its effectiveness. Do you think they should go back to the 4/3? Otherwise, what's the point of your take?
I hope you didn't just blow your one take cuz you showed some potential as a possible board contributor and not just a negative and depressed anti-fan.
You might find this suprising, but my resolution is exactley what they seem to be doing. Let's build an idenity, stick to it, a punishing ground game and a intimidating defense. I remember last season or so they were talking about swiching to the 4-3. I think they should dedicate themselves to a philosophy, and stick to it.
Mangini should come out now and say "Quinn is the starter" If they are too close to call right now, then what difference does it make. He should say Quinn is the man. Players have to know this.
No mixed signals to Edwards either. Maybe the damage is done, but he should be told, you are the main reciever on this team, plays will be built around you, running plays and passing, and we expect you to show your tallent.
Bring Joe J. back to provide some leadership around work ethic.
What do you think?
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Semenback what the hell are you doing back here? Don't you have a brother you should be screwing?
I am enjoying watching people's brains explode at the first sign of common sense!
Sivlerback DPOY said:
I am enjoying watching people's brains explode at the first sign of common sense!Is that why you go to Steeler games?
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
I am enjoying watching people's brains explode at the first sign of common sense!Is that why you go to Steeler games?
Is that why you go to Steeler games?
Ha! 200% markup prices; 15 year season ticket waiting list. Its hard getting into a Steeler game.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
What a hoot watching the Daily Show and John Stewart acting in a state of disbelief regarding Horseroid Harrison.
If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious.
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Good takes but the only thing missing is your idea for resolution to all the issues you addressed. Example would be the 3/4 losing its effectiveness. Do you think they should go back to the 4/3? Otherwise, what's the point of your take?
I hope you didn't just blow your one take cuz you showed some potential as a possible board contributor and not just a negative and depressed anti-fan.
You might find this suprising, but my resolution is exactley what they seem to be doing. Let's build an idenity, stick to it, a punishing ground game and a intimidating defense. I remember last season or so they were talking about swiching to the 4-3. I think they should dedicate themselves to a philosophy, and stick to it.
Mangini should come out now and say "Quinn is the starter" If they are too close to call right now, then what difference does it make. He should say Quinn is the man. Players have to know this.
No mixed signals to Edwards either. Maybe the damage is done, but he should be told, you are the main reciever on this team, plays will be built around you, running plays and passing, and we expect you to show your tallent.
Bring Joe J. back to provide some leadership around work ethic.
What do you think?
The Soldier said:
You might find this suprising, but my resolution is exactley what they seem to be doing. Let's build an idenity, stick to it, a punishing ground game and a intimidating defense. I remember last season or so they were talking about swiching to the 4-3. I think they should dedicate themselves to a philosophy, and stick to it.Mangini should come out now and say "Quinn is the starter" If they are too close to call right now, then what difference does it make. He should say Quinn is the man. Players have to know this.
No mixed signals to Edwards either. Maybe the damage is done, but he should be told, you are the main reciever on this team, plays will be built around you, running plays and passing, and we expect you to show your tallent.
Bring Joe J. back to provide some leadership around work ethic.
What do you think?
JJ is done, time to move on. We have other leaders in Patten and Furrey and we can't get any older.
Everything else I agree with except I don't think they ever really thought about switching to a 4/3, that was more media driven IMO.
I think what Mancock is doing is working toward an identity, and that is a team of tough, smart, savvy, team oriented guys who are versatile. They're building depth across the board and in the trenches and identifying and going after problem areas such as injury prone guys and butterfinger WR's.
I see nothing to complain about yet, but as Grossi says this is the best time of year for a head coach.
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Is that why you go to Steeler games?
Ha! 200% markup prices; 15 year season ticket waiting list. Its hard getting into a Steeler game.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/178530-...-james-harrison
See, there's a logical explaination, and no it doesn't include him hating America....
Some good points in this one too:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/179116-...or-not-steelers
I think the real reason Harrison didn't go was becuase he was afraid Obama would force him to become a Detroit Lion under his new spread the wealth throughout the NFL plan.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/178530-...-james-harrison
See, there's a logical explaination, and no it doesn't include him hating America....
Some good points in this one too:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/179116-...or-not-steelers
I think the real reason Harrison didn't go was becuase he was afraid Obama would force him to become a Detroit Lion under his new spread the wealth throughout the NFL plan.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/178530-...-james-harrisonSee, there's a logical explaination, and no it doesn't include him hating America....
Some good points in this one too:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/179116-...or-not-steelers
I think the real reason Harrison didn't go was becuase he was afraid Obama would force him to become a Detroit Lion under his new spread the wealth throughout the NFL plan.
Word has it he's a communist supporter.
just sayin
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What a hoot watching the Daily Show and John Stewart acting in a state of disbelief regarding Horseroid Harrison.
If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious.
What a hoot watching the Daily Show and John Stewart acting in a state of disbelief regarding Horseroid Harrison.
If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious.
Keep bumping this thread with pointless and sensless remarks. We need to make sure its still on the front page around this time next year so that we can continue the conversation on why Harrison skipped going to the White House for the third time!
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What a hoot watching the Daily Show and John Stewart acting in a state of disbelief regarding Horseroid Harrison.
If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious.
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Way to make your team look bad and the owner. Didn't Rooney campaign hard for Obama in PA? The organization goes out on a limb and gives a big extension which doesn't do that often and he pulls this stunt? What a tool. Way to make your team and the NFL look bad.
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Way to make your team look bad and the owner. Didn't Rooney campaign hard for Obama in PA? The organization goes out on a limb and gives a big extension which doesn't do that often and he pulls this stunt? What a tool. Way to make your team and the NFL look bad.
Way to make your team look bad and the owner. Didn't Rooney campaign hard for Obama in PA? The organization goes out on a limb and gives a big extension which doesn't do that often and he pulls this stunt? What a tool. Way to make your team and the NFL look bad.
This had nothing to do with politics. He did the same thing in 2006 when Bush was president. He shouldn't have to do optional things just to support the owners political views.
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@inspecta said:
Thanks Al, good stuff. And yet, even after a super awesome show like the daily show slams Harrison for his beyond idiotic comments these stoolbags will still come in and defend their beloved guerrilla.... talk about blind homers.No one is really defending Harrison's actual comments, we are saying how rediculous some of you guys are acting. Like when a few of you tried to say that it meant he hates America......
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
@inspecta said:
Thanks Al, good stuff. And yet, even after a super awesome show like the daily show slams Harrison for his beyond idiotic comments these stoolbags will still come in and defend their beloved guerrilla.... talk about blind homers.No one is really defending Harrison's actual comments, we are saying how rediculous some of you guys are acting. Like when a few of you tried to say that it meant he hates America......
Sivlerback DPOY said:
No one is really defending Harrison's actual comments, we are saying how rediculous some of you guys are acting. Like when a few of you tried to say that it meant he hates America......F U gorilla boy- This is a Browns forum, don't like it, then leave. A Hole Harrison is better then the rest of us and can't be bothered.
If he liked America and supported America he'd be first in line to appreciate the history of the White house etc. Like i said before there is no defending this waste of space.
There is always the possibility that he has a standard learning disability associated with being a Steeler. I would feel bad picking on a Retarded dude even if he was wearing black and gold
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
No one is really defending Harrison's actual comments, we are saying how rediculous some of you guys are acting. Like when a few of you tried to say that it meant he hates America......F U gorilla boy- This is a Browns forum, don't like it, then leave. A Hole Harrison is better then the rest of us and can't be bothered.
If he liked America and supported America he'd be first in line to appreciate the history of the White house etc. Like i said before there is no defending this waste of space.
There is always the possibility that he has a standard learning disability associated with being a Steeler. I would feel bad picking on a Retarded dude even if he was wearing black and gold
F U gorilla boy- This is a Browns forum, don't like it, then leave. A Hole Harrison is better then the rest of us and can't be bothered.
If he liked America and supported America he'd be first in line to appreciate the history of the White house etc. Like i said before there is no defending this waste of space.
There is always the possibility that he has a standard learning disability associated with being a Steeler. I would feel bad picking on a Retarded dude even if he was wearing black and gold
I always thought living in America ment having the freedom of choice, but I guess not.
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I'm looking forward to the next edition of Horseroid Harrison, this guy is a hoot.
It appears he has taken over as the team leader and spokesman over der in Pittspuke.
Like I said, if it wasn't such a sad indictment of Pittsburgh and their players it would be even more funny, but it's also got kind of an icky feeling to it that just leaves you shaking your head going "WTF?"
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I'm looking forward to the next edition of Horseroid Harrison, this guy is a hoot.
It appears he has taken over as the team leader and spokesman over der in Pittspuke.
Like I said, if it wasn't such a sad indictment of Pittsburgh and their players it would be even more funny, but it's also got kind of an icky feeling to it that just leaves you shaking your head going "WTF?"
I'm looking forward to the next edition of Horseroid Harrison, this guy is a hoot.
It appears he has taken over as the team leader and spokesman over der in Pittspuke.
Like I said, if it wasn't such a sad indictment of Pittsburgh and their players it would be even more funny, but it's also got kind of an icky feeling to it that just leaves you shaking your head going "WTF?"
Of course he will be looked up to as a leader becuase he is a great leader. There is no question of his work ethic or ability. His desire to play great football comes from the heart, not the wallet as shown by him putting up that MVP performance after an All-Pro season, earning only 1.8 million each year. He quickly walks off any injury, including an injury were he could even walk. He has a football mentality.
I don't know were you get he is some kind of team spokeman? He has done nothing to assume that role and nooboy's trying to put him into that role.
I'm looking forward to the FIRST edition of YOU EVER BACKING UP A REDICULOUS CLIAM, YOU ARE a hoot.
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I'm looking forward to the next edition of Horseroid Harrison, this guy is a hoot.
It appears he has taken over as the team leader and spokesman over der in Pittspuke.
Like I said, if it wasn't such a sad indictment of Pittsburgh and their players it would be even more funny, but it's also got kind of an icky feeling to it that just leaves you shaking your head going "WTF?"
Of course he will be looked up to as a leader becuase he is a great leader. There is no question of his work ethic or ability. His desire to play great football comes from the heart, not the wallet as shown by him putting up that MVP performance after an All-Pro season, earning only 1.8 million each year. He quickly walks off any injury, including an injury were he could even walk. He has a football mentality.
I don't know were you get he is some kind of team spokeman? He has done nothing to assume that role and nooboy's trying to put him into that role.
I'm looking forward to the FIRST edition of YOU EVER BACKING UP A REDICULOUS CLIAM, YOU ARE a hoot.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
Of course he will be looked up to as a leader becuase he is a great leader. There is no question of his work ethic or ability. His desire to play great football comes from the heart, not the wallet as shown by him putting up that MVP performance after an All-Pro season, earning only 1.8 million each year. He quickly walks off any injury, including an injury were he could even walk. He has a football mentality.I don't know were you get he is some kind of team spokeman? He has done nothing to assume that role and nooboy's trying to put him into that role.
I'm looking forward to the FIRST edition of YOU EVER BACKING UP A REDICULOUS CLIAM, YOU ARE a hoot.
Hey fellow Browns fans.
Why did Harrison say what he said? Because he was invited to the White House.
Why was he invited to the White House? Because his team won the Super Bowl!
Why is this such a big story (besides being a really dumb statement)? Because he was Defensive Player of the Year of the NFL, and made one of the greatest plays of Super Bowl history.
Is he stupid? Sounds like it. Do I want to hang out with him? Probably not.
Do I want his talents for the Browns? HECK YES!
D'Qwell might be nicer (i don't know that) but Harrison is better football player. And when I argue with Steeler fans, I want to say we are a better team. Not that we have nicer/smarter players.
And don't say smarter players lead to a better team. If that's so, then why is Harrison and the Steelers so good?
Devils advocate.
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You need to like the team in order to root for them. Other than an above average skillset what will Harrison offer? The Browns can say no thanks to guys like Harrison and still win. I prefer a team w/class than a team that flaunts its a-holes. You actually think the Rooney's are proud to have this statement of Harrison connected to the Steelers. I don't.
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