Josh Gordon
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Kizer sucks.
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After two games, really?
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I heard it said here more than once that Hogan has a long wind-up and other absurd proclamations... but in reality I don't see any issue with the way Hogan delivers the football.
In fact, it's Kizer that STARES down the player he's going to throw it to. He's decided who he's going to throw to before he even snaps the ball. He'll straight stare that guy down and if he's covered Kizer freezes and then starts to look for a running lane.
Hogan, truth be told, is the QB that every time he's gotten onto the field, be it the Brown and Orange Scrimmage, the few times he got in during Pre-Season and now in this last game, he's been the QB reading the Defense, going through his progression and actually "seeing the field".
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Josh Gordon.
Where the hell is Gordon's reinstatement. It's unfair to tell the young man that you can reapply in the Fall and now and now here we are, we need answers.
If he's stayed clean, if he's done what the NFL has asked of him, they need to let him play or they are sending mixed messages.
You can't expect people to get the help they need if they are going to continue to be punished for it. How long does the NFL plan to keep dragging this kids life and livelihood through the ringer. Since he's clean and actually not in the league right now, if they reinstate him he should be given a clean slate. No more of this shit of bringing up past. He's served his time and now he needs to be done with the taking of hundreds of piss tests.
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unbelievable.
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Josh Gordon.
Where the hell is Gordon's reinstatement. It's unfair to tell the young man that you can reapply in the Fall and now and now here we are, we need answers.
If he's stayed clean, if he's done what the NFL has asked of him, they need to let him play or they are sending mixed messages.
You can't expect people to get the help they need if they are going to continue to be punished for it. How long does the NFL plan to keep dragging this kids life and livelihood through the ringer. Since he's clean and actually not in the league right now, if they reinstate him he should be given a clean slate. No more of this shit of bringing up past. He's served his time and now he needs to be done with the taking of hundreds of piss tests.
Josh Gordon.
Where the hell is Gordon's reinstatement. It's unfair to tell the young man that you can reapply in the Fall and now and now here we are, we need answers.
If he's stayed clean, if he's done what the NFL has asked of him, they need to let him play or they are sending mixed messages.
You can't expect people to get the help they need if they are going to continue to be punished for it. How long does the NFL plan to keep dragging this kids life and livelihood through the ringer. Since he's clean and actually not in the league right now, if they reinstate him he should be given a clean slate. No more of this shit of bringing up past. He's served his time and now he needs to be done with the taking of hundreds of piss tests.
PO, when you going to figure out in the big scheme of the NFL, Gordon is background noise?
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Pogi-He got out of rehab this week and you expected reinstatement? LOL!

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Should have drafted Tyrann Mathieu, Karl Joseph and Khalil Mack but what do I know? You're much smarter than I am. Should have kept Haden. We need to start Kevin Hogan. Jimmy Haslam needs to get Goodell on the phone and give him an earful about getting Gordon reinstated. We also need to go pluck Scooby Wright off the Cardinals practice squad. I don't even wanna know what Greg Williams could do with that beast.
Should have drafted Tyrann Mathieu, Karl Joseph and Khalil Mack but what do I know? You're much smarter than I am. Should have kept Haden. We need to start Kevin Hogan. Jimmy Haslam needs to get Goodell on the phone and give him an earful about getting Gordon reinstated. We also need to go pluck Scooby Wright off the Cardinals practice squad. I don't even wanna know what Greg Williams could do with that beast.
You too are entering Ghoolie Land with the "I told you they should have done blah blah blah, blah blah blah".
If you are so goddamn prescient...why haven't you won one of the big lotteries and gone off and bought an island somewhere....far away from the rest of us?
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Should have drafted Tyrann Mathieu, Karl Joseph and Khalil Mack but what do I know? You're much smarter than I am. Should have kept Haden. We need to start Kevin Hogan. Jimmy Haslam needs to get Goodell on the phone and give him an earful about getting Gordon reinstated. We also need to go pluck Scooby Wright off the Cardinals practice squad. I don't even wanna know what Greg Williams could do with that beast.
You too are entering Ghoolie Land with the "I told you they should have done blah blah blah, blah blah blah".
If you are so goddamn prescient...why haven't you won one of the big lotteries and gone off and bought an island somewhere....far away from the rest of us?
You too are entering Ghoolie Land with the "I told you they should have done blah blah blah, blah blah blah".
If you are so goddamn prescient...why haven't you won one of the big lotteries and gone off and bought an island somewhere....far away from the rest of us?
No need to be a dick to Poetic. That's the name of the game around here look around the league see the guys we've passed up speculate as to whether or not they be better than the guys that we went out on a limb to take. Phase two is at the end of the season look back at the very successful players that were taken after the bums we took.
Scooby Wright always seems like a good type of player to have. Better than a couple of lazy ass free agent receivers we just overpaid.
WSS
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You too are entering Ghoolie Land with the "I told you they should have done blah blah blah, blah blah blah".
If you are so goddamn prescient...why haven't you won one of the big lotteries and gone off and bought an island somewhere....far away from the rest of us?
No need to be a dick to Poetic. That's the name of the game around here look around the league see the guys we've passed up speculate as to whether or not they be better than the guys that we went out on a limb to take. Phase two is at the end of the season look back at the very successful players that were taken after the bums we took.
Scooby Wright always seems like a good type of player to have. Better than a couple of lazy ass free agent receivers we just overpaid.
WSS
No need to be a dick to Poetic. WSS
actually there is, but whatever.....

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Josh Gordon.
Where the hell is Gordon's reinstatement. It's unfair to tell the young man that you can reapply in the Fall and now and now here we are, we need answers.
If he's stayed clean, if he's done what the NFL has asked of him, they need to let him play or they are sending mixed messages.
You can't expect people to get the help they need if they are going to continue to be punished for it. How long does the NFL plan to keep dragging this kids life and livelihood through the ringer. Since he's clean and actually not in the league right now, if they reinstate him he should be given a clean slate. No more of this shit of bringing up past. He's served his time and now he needs to be done with the taking of hundreds of piss tests.
Where the hell is Gordon's reinstatement. It's unfair to tell the young man that you can reapply in the Fall and now and now here we are, we need answers.
Fall started when...a day ago?
Roger GoToHell is pissed (great choice of word here
) at Gordon. As much as I hate Roger, he went out on a limb for Haslam and Gordon by letting him attend meetings and learn the playbook only to have Gordon fuck up again and run himself into some rehab center. Nope, GoToHell is going to put Gordon through hell.
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Yea, I tagged this as I really didn't see how his Agent would know more than anyone else about this - especially after Goodell said he wasn't even looking into it a week or two earlier.
It may happen eventually, but this timeline laid out was just a bit too much, and at this point in things . . . not sure it matters.
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Where the hell is Gordon's reinstatement. It's unfair to tell the young man that you can reapply in the Fall and now and now here we are, we need answers.
Fall started when...a day ago?
Roger GoToHell is pissed (great choice of word here
) at Gordon. As much as I hate Roger, he went out on a limb for Haslam and Gordon by letting him attend meetings and learn the playbook only to have Gordon fuck up again and run himself into some rehab center. Nope, GoToHell is going to put Gordon through hell.
Fall started when...a day ago?
Roger GoToHell is pissed (great choice of word here
) at Gordon. As much as I hate Roger, he went out on a limb for Haslam and Gordon by letting him attend meetings and learn the playbook only to have Gordon fuck up again and run himself into some rehab center. Nope, GoToHell is going to put Gordon through hell.
I'm sure Gordon told Goodell at the last meeting, "I'm good, I've cleaned up my act, ready to play football." Then he proceeds to as Orion said ^^^^^ I doubt Roger has forgotten it. He's got to apply for reinstatement PO, it's not something that's just going to be handed to him. I think it may happen- eventually. You can take this one to the bank, this will absolutely be Josh's last chance if he gets back in, even his trainer admits as much. It's stay clean, or reapply for that auto salesman's gig.
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I get it. But at the same time, how long can Goodell keep punishing Gordon before it is extreme.
Goodell's been asked about Gordon by Browns Fans when he was in Canton. It's been all over the news. He's known it was coming. He should have had an answer available earlier already.
There is no excuse for him to act like it's a surprise and he was unaware this was coming. Either tell the kid back in March when he reapplied that:
A)We're not letting you get back in the league, ever. So quit asking.
B)You can rejoin the team before the first regular season game if you pass tests A, B and C.
C)You can rejoin the team after you served another 4 game suspension that you already served last season but since you made me look like an ass after helping you out, you can serve another one this year and if after that you can pass tests A, B and C- you'll be reinstated for week 5.
But to say, "I don't have anything on my desk." and when he has time, if he feels like it, he'll try to review it, maybe decide when he feels like it... that's frustrating, for the player, the team and the fans.
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I get it. But at the same time, how long can Goodell keep punishing Gordon before it is extreme.
Goodell's been asked about Gordon by Browns Fans when he was in Canton. It's been all over the news. He's known it was coming. He should have had an answer available earlier already.
There is no excuse for him to act like it's a surprise and he was unaware this was coming. Either tell the kid back in March when he reapplied that:
A)We're not letting you get back in the league, ever. So quit asking.
B)You can rejoin the team before the first regular season game if you pass tests A, B and C.
C)You can rejoin the team after you served another 4 game suspension that you already served last season but since you made me look like an ass after helping you out, you can serve another one this year and if after that you can pass tests A, B and C- you'll be reinstated for week 5.
But to say, "I don't have anything on my desk." and when he has time, if he feels like it, he'll try to review it, maybe decide when he feels like it... that's frustrating, for the player, the team and the fans.
I get it. But at the same time, how long can Goodell keep punishing Gordon before it is extreme.
C) You can rejoin the team after you served another 4 game suspension that you already served last season but since you made me look like an ass after helping you out, you can serve another one this year and if after that you can pass tests A, B and C- you'll be reinstated for week 5.
But to say, "I don't have anything on my desk." and when he has time, if he feels like it, he'll try to review it, maybe decide when he feels like it... that's frustrating, for the player, the team and the fans.
I think option "C" is the correct one PO.
Josh has done a great job of punishing himself, don't blame it on Goodell.
Don't forget- the Browns have to want him back too.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-nothing-josh-gordon-status-141111851.html decided on Crown Royal Game day & mailing Poe the purple bag for his magic beans
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I get it. But at the same time, how long can Goodell keep punishing Gordon before it is extreme.
C) You can rejoin the team after you served another 4 game suspension that you already served last season but since you made me look like an ass after helping you out, you can serve another one this year and if after that you can pass tests A, B and C- you'll be reinstated for week 5.
But to say, "I don't have anything on my desk." and when he has time, if he feels like it, he'll try to review it, maybe decide when he feels like it... that's frustrating, for the player, the team and the fans.
I think option "C" is the correct one PO.
Josh has done a great job of punishing himself, don't blame it on Goodell.
Don't forget- the Browns have to want him back too.
Don't forget- the Browns have to want him back too.
...and I don't think Haslam or Hue WANT him back after his last episode. But the reality is, their receiver corps is quite the mess so they NEED him back.
Let's face it. Coleman's injured and maybe gone for the year. Britt is jogging around out there and the only way he gets open is by pushing the DB out of the way (what's he got, 2 penalties for doing that?). Aside from that we've got big lumbering TE's....and Higgins who's had one decent day in 2 years. In as much as they might want to tell Josh to go bang his ass on a sharp rock, they can't. They need his ass.
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Don't forget- the Browns have to want him back too.
...and I don't think Haslam or Hue WANT him back after his last episode. But the reality is, their receiver corps is quite the mess so they NEED him back.
Let's face it. Coleman's injured and maybe gone for the year. Britt is jogging around out there and the only way he gets open is by pushing the DB out of the way (what's he got, 2 penalties for doing that?). Aside from that we've got big lumbering TE's....and Higgins who's had one decent day in 2 years. In as much as they might want to tell Josh to go bang his ass on a sharp rock, they can't. They need his ass.
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so that makes Gordon a butthead. The Browns need the player that Gordon COULD have been.
an asset that can't/won't stay out of trouble, is a rotten asset. His excuses are old, if he does get
re-instated, it would be some weeks before he is in football shape? Just say "NO" to one more time.
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