Josh Gordon
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Okay yes. If Gordon was on steroids, popping pills and repeatedly popped for clear cut- I don't give a FUCK drug tests in between drunken rampages where he's running down women and children in his vehicle loaded with illegal automatic weapons... then yeah, get him the fuck out of here. BUT CLEARLY, unless you are completely blind and ignorant to the FACTS, this is not what we have here in Josh Gordon.
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
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Josh Gordon has paid his dues to the NFL... Let the man play.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
that's stupid. nobody said anything about pill popping steriods. that is just a desperate distraction.
So, you are an NFL football player with a history of screwing up, and you are fifteen miles over
the normal speed limit for a regular street...
at 3 AM in the FREAKING MORNING AFTER DRINKING THREE DRINKS THAT HAD VODKA IN THEM?
seriously ? make all the excuses in the world, but that is STUPID. Did he start out with beer? Or maybe
he put vodka IN his beer?
Unbelievable. and stupid.
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Gordon had tremendous skills - except he was stupid. He did stupid stuff, again and again and again and again,
and he's "just a victim" of circumstances.
Then, he finally gets his chance AGAIN, and right before he can be that player he could have been,...berfore
that season....
THEN HE FREAKING PUTS HIMSELF IN REHAB? and still denies he ever had a problem with dope or alcohol?
I mean, come on. Seriously.
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US 70 sounds like a highway to me. Maybe a section of highway like they have through some towns here in ohio. The speed limit goes from 70 to 35 pretty quick in some places. Cops would NEVER hide in those places to catch somebody slipping at 3 AM in the morning.
AND.
Either you missed it or just glossed it over, kinda like you're assessment of Josh Gordon. But his Blood Alcohol level was .01 percent over the LEGAL LIMIT.
Call it what you like but I think you already said it BEST- Josh Gordon a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Not the MONSTER you'd like him to be.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I will give you the, "He could have played last year" argument... but only half credit.
He could have played last year... but only AFTER serving a four game suspension(for some reason, probably because he made Goodell look like the ass he is).
If you don't remember I refresh you're memory... Gordon had a WARRANT placed for his arrest and the first time he finds out about it is AFTER it's public knowledge. He sees it on the news or has one of his people call him to notify him!
Imagine that, all the work and effort to get your name straightened out and get ready for the season then BAM, blindsided again! This time to go along with it the awakening that he has a 1 year old child!
If he hadn't been through enough in his young life already, throw that in on the top and call it the cherry. It's enough to drive you to drink again. He did the right thing by seeking help BEFORE he slipped- an adult decision. Then he's chastised for doing the RIGHT thing.
Maybe you've never heard of it but there is a phrase- "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't".
Yeah, life is kind of like that if you're Josh Gordon.
Like I said, the young man hasn't been the brightest bulb in the box, but god damn- he's a football player doing the BEST that he can do. He's more than paid for his transgression to society for Christ's sake. Enough is enough.
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Growing up, my Mom and Dad's best friends always made excuses for the trouble their son always got into...... The last I heard he has been in and out of jail many times and has nothing whatsoever to show for his life.
Yep, making excuses for poor misunderstood Scott really worked out well for him.
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I'm aware of his "DWI"... I also thought that was ticky-tack...
Here's the scoop.
Police spokesman Jim Sughrue said Gordon was taken into custody at Wake County Detention Center after being pulled over for going 50 mph in a 35 mph zone on U.S. 70 in northwest Raleigh around 3 a.m. Saturday.
Raleigh police captain Tommy Klein said that to be arrested in Raleigh for DWI, a person has to be "appreciably impaired." Asked if the charge was DWI for alcohol or another substance, Sughrue said, "I can't comment on any tests we gave him or what the results were."
WNCN, the NBC affiliate in Raleigh, reported Gordon's blood-alcohol level was .09, and he admitted to having three drinks with vodka. The legal limit in the state of North Carolina is .08.
( 0.01 percent higher than the LEGAL LIMIT) !!!
No drug charges were filed.
Gordon was released on a $500 bond. Court records did not list an attorney. Gordon is scheduled for an Aug. 26 court appearance in Raleigh on the charges brought against him.
I'm aware of his "DWI"... I also thought that was ticky-tack...
Here's the scoop.
Police spokesman Jim Sughrue said Gordon was taken into custody at Wake County Detention Center after being pulled over for going 50 mph in a 35 mph zone on U.S. 70 in northwest Raleigh around 3 a.m. Saturday.
Raleigh police captain Tommy Klein said that to be arrested in Raleigh for DWI, a person has to be "appreciably impaired." Asked if the charge was DWI for alcohol or another substance, Sughrue said, "I can't comment on any tests we gave him or what the results were."
WNCN, the NBC affiliate in Raleigh, reported Gordon's blood-alcohol level was .09, and he admitted to having three drinks with vodka. The legal limit in the state of North Carolina is .08.
( 0.01 percent higher than the LEGAL LIMIT) !!!
No drug charges were filed.
Gordon was released on a $500 bond. Court records did not list an attorney. Gordon is scheduled for an Aug. 26 court appearance in Raleigh on the charges brought against him.
Actually that's 12% higher than the "legal" limit PO. I could debate that's too low, but the law is the law. Don't stick your head in the sand. 3 AM on a Saturday night? The cops (anywhere) are just looking for any ticky-tack excuse to pull someone over that time of night on a weekend. Speeding, weaving, not signaling a turn, etc. Why? because they're not looking for speeding violations. Looking to get a gold star from the boss on a DUI- because they know at that hour, the majority of guys on the road have been drinking. You get behind the wheel at that hour having had a few too many- you better drive like the little old lady on her way too church- but don't drive TOO slow, they'll pull you over for that too.
I would like to add that he wasn't pulled over for swerving or driving the WRONG WAY... he was pulled over for going 50 in a 35. I don't know about you but I regularly travel around 10mph above the speed limit. I can't drive 55- and I drive a trailblazer.
Don't turn molehills into mountains, you're sounding like GOD-ELL- "the model citizen".
Excuses, excuses. I got stopped at 2 AM on a holiday weekend- for no other reason than I had my spare down on the driver's side- and the cop thought I looked "suspicious".
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Poeman the Gordo may Have it, but he just don't Get it. I live in NC. Hwy 70 is Glenwood Ave. It's the happening strip of Raleigh.Largest Mall & 5 miles of strip shops all the way to Durham Airport.I sold floor covering years ago where Gordo got pulled.(4 cops/mile,easily) It connects to Fairground Area where RBC Center(hockey/NC State basketball) a state trooper station (clearly marked) NC State campus area..Gordon was here visiting a old football coach of Butch Davis's staff that had UNC in another NCAA scandal a while back..Gordon bond was paid by a convicted drug lord,(friend of visiting UNC coach)..Not only does Josh do stupid shit on his own such as 2 separate maternity cases,3 separate speeding cases carrying traffic points,(1 included passenger with pot) tearing up hotel rentals with JM..It's always been the group he hangs with since Baylor..I agree that the petite findings of the NFL are way past the crime, but you just watch if or when the pressure of the game ever comes back to Josh..He'll F'up than never point the finger at him..Am done till Fall talking about this guy..If he don't want the game back by now he's Blackmon ll(yea,it's his fault never JG)
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Poeman the Gordo may Have it, but he just don't Get it. I live in NC. Hwy 70 is Glenwood Ave. It's the happening strip of Raleigh.Largest Mall & 5 miles of strip shops all the way to Durham Airport.I sold floor covering years ago where Gordo got pulled.(4 cops/mile,easily) It connects to Fairground Area where RBC Center(hockey/NC State basketball) a state trooper station (clearly marked) NC State campus area..Gordon was here visiting a old football coach of Butch Davis's staff that had UNC in another NCAA scandal a while back..Gordon bond was paid by a convicted drug lord,(friend of visiting UNC coach)..Not only does Josh do stupid shit on his own such as 2 separate maternity cases,3 separate speeding cases carrying traffic points,(1 included passenger with pot) tearing up hotel rentals with JM..It's always been the group he hangs with since Baylor..I agree that the petite findings of the NFL are way past the crime, but you just watch if or when the pressure of the game ever comes back to Josh..He'll F'up than never point the finger at him..Am done till Fall talking about this guy..If he don't want the game back by now he's Blackmon ll(yea,it's his fault never JG)
Poeman the Gordo may Have it, but he just don't Get it. I live in NC. Hwy 70 is Glenwood Ave. It's the happening strip of Raleigh.Largest Mall & 5 miles of strip shops all the way to Durham Airport.I sold floor covering years ago where Gordo got pulled.(4 cops/mile,easily) It connects to Fairground Area where RBC Center(hockey/NC State basketball) a state trooper station (clearly marked) NC State campus area..Gordon was here visiting a old football coach of Butch Davis's staff that had UNC in another NCAA scandal a while back..Gordon bond was paid by a convicted drug lord,(friend of visiting UNC coach)..Not only does Josh do stupid shit on his own such as 2 separate maternity cases,3 separate speeding cases carrying traffic points,(1 included passenger with pot) tearing up hotel rentals with JM..It's always been the group he hangs with since Baylor..I agree that the petite findings of the NFL are way past the crime, but you just watch if or when the pressure of the game ever comes back to Josh..He'll F'up than never point the finger at him..Am done till Fall talking about this guy..If he don't want the game back by now he's Blackmon ll(yea,it's his fault never JG)
Yes.. He should make himself a public spectacle like Johnny Manhoodless beating women and Krapperdick shitting on the country that gave him everything.. Got it...
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Well, when Belll has had as many violations as Bryant and Gordon, and had only 3 games.....WTF is up with that.
If you do even a little bit of investigation you'll figure it out.
If you do even a little bit of investigation you'll figure it out.
I have....and the answer is as proposed.....favoritism.
And now Martavis Bryant is reinstated...and Gordon is not. So, there you go.
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Call us when your piece of shit cheating, cocksucking the Commish franchise catches up to our 13 titles..Not even halfway there yet.
Lol.
Be proud of those "titles" I guess it was enough for your team because they've been garbage for longer than most of your fan base has been alive.
Lol.
Be proud of those "titles" I guess it was enough for your team because they've been garbage for longer than most of your fan base has been alive.
Most of the Steelers titles were earned at a time when most of its fan base was not alive.
The only titles that count are the last one and the next one. All other are just history...no matter how recent of long ago.
Actually....one title may have more historical significance than all others: 1920 Akron Pros. It is and always will be the very first title.
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I think we can all agree that Josh Gordon has repeatedly made stupid mistakes. It is likely that most if not all those decisions were influenced by some sort of substance abuse or self medicating behavior. Some were minor or "ticky tacky" as Poet says but the collective body of work conclusively indicates the need for him to get help and change.
Now if we can all find some common ground in that AND we are all Browns fans then you have to hope he has turned the corner and hope he lights it up for us. There is absolutely zero upside for us if he remains suspended or he's reinstated and traded.
Perhaps we forget but this dude when his head is straight may be THE BEST in the league. I want this dude back in the league and back on the field catching TD's for the Browns.
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It's Christmas Eve Dawgpound! Josh Gordon is to be released from rehab tomorrow~ Let's welcome him back with open arms for a hopefully VERY BRIGHT future in Cleveland!
Let's go Flash, where have you been? We've missed you!
It's Christmas Eve Dawgpound! Josh Gordon is to be released from rehab tomorrow~ Let's welcome him back with open arms for a hopefully VERY BRIGHT future in Cleveland!
Let's go Flash, where have you been? We've missed you!
Out of rehab does not yet mean out of NFL jail. That is still up in the air.
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Josh Gordon has served his time, to continue to sit him out sends the wrong message to players that are working on bettering themselves and getting help.
I hope that upon release from rehabilitation and clearing Josh Gordon's name of Drugs and Alcohol that Roger Goodell can stamp his reinstatement tomorrow.
We have, as Browns Fans, found ourselves in need of WR help and Gordon is a valuable member of our team and community.
Gordon seems to be working hard and keeping in shape ready to redeem himself in the eyes of the NFL and society.
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It's Christmas Eve Dawgpound! Josh Gordon is to be released from rehab tomorrow~ Let's welcome him back with open arms for a hopefully VERY BRIGHT future in Cleveland!
Let's go Flash, where have you been? We've missed you!
Out of rehab does not yet mean out of NFL jail. That is still up in the air.
Out of rehab does not yet mean out of NFL jail. That is still up in the air.
Exactly Ag. MHO is the odds are around 50%. Goodell may give him another chance- but it will be his LAST chance before he's suspended for life. It's not happening at 4 PM tomorrow. Roger the Dodger will have to look at the rehab facilities report, and have a face to face with Josh (doubtless a stern lecture will be involved) before he even thinks about reinstating Gordon. I'll put the timline at a week to 10 days, and maybe a lot more.
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