Haden ....RELEASED
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I don't understand the move considering the lack of depth.
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Owed $4m guaranteed this year, cap hit is $7.8m this year and $3.2m next year.
Clearly a corner(s) will be coming in considering they could have kept him and taken half the hit next year.
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Haden was getting smoked off the line in Tampa, its why I came to the conclusion he was getting cut when the trade rumors came out yesterday.
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Cut before game 4 in case he got injured, then it would be even more $.
Odds are trades are off for now with all these bodies getting ready to hit the market.
Cutting 37 Players at one shot is pretty crazy, then add in scouring the cuts from other Teams for a Player that may help.
Yea, next few days are going to be busy - we've already cut a few other guys that were pretty much injured the whole of TC.
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Not really surprising, considering his performance and health issues the last few years. He was a class act and always supported other Cleveland teams. Time just came when it had to end. We will get another one this weekend, or trade.
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Top 5 CB in the NFL per this fan base, and this board especially. LOL.
Overrated, always has been.
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He will sign with the patriots or raiders
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Top 5 CB in the NFL per this fan base, and this board especially. LOL.
Overrated, always has been.
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Difference is that Bito and Shelton have somewhat proven themselves in the NFL. No such thing with Wilson. That said, what is his prognosis? Injury list the entire season? Or does he have a chance to get in there perhaps?
No... no difference whatsoever. When you're hurt your name goes into parentheses and to the end of the line. That's just how it's done. Experience is irrelevant to that standard depth chart practice.
Original determination was a cracked (broken) patella and no additional damage to tendons or ligaments... a/k/a best possible news, but that "some games" would be missed. Since then info has been scarce and confused.
No... no difference whatsoever. When you're hurt your name goes into parentheses and to the end of the line. That's just how it's done. Experience is irrelevant to that standard depth chart practice.
Original determination was a cracked (broken) patella and no additional damage to tendons or ligaments... a/k/a best possible news, but that "some games" would be missed. Since then info has been scarce and confused.
There is a difference in how confident we are in someone's ability. Wilson is a rookie with no track record...and we have every right to be skeptical about his capabilities coming of an injury. The others....we have confidence in.
Is Wilson going to be such an asset such that it makes up for the loss of Haden? To me, either he or Stribling are the wild cards in the whole release of Joe.THEY have to be able to perform better than he, in my opinion.
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Not down with Stribling? I would think that Woody would be in here drooling over the fact that this rumor may give another FMU boy a spot on this roster.
My analysis of Peppers was based on his play, not is school. I can be objective..
I know that is a foreign concept to you
My analysis of Peppers was based on his play, not is school. I can be objective..
I know that is a foreign concept to you
Keep up or be squashed baby tomato. We are talking about Stribling. Since you claim to be objective and since you have hardly said word one about this FUM alum....can we take it from you that you don't think too highly of him?
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Top 5 CB in the NFL per this fan base, and this board especially. LOL.
Overrated, always has been.
Top 5 CB in the NFL per this fan base, and this board especially. LOL.
Overrated, always has been.
he's been all pro. was not "overrated" in his first years by any stretch. that's ignorant. He's been injured here and thereand has lost a step, some ability to burst.
" Haden was drafted seventh overall by the Cleveland Browns in the 2010 NFL Draft. He and the Browns agreed to a five-year, $50 million contract on July 31, 2010.[9] Haden started his rookie season as the Browns nickelback, but took the starting spot from a struggling, and injured Eric Wright in Week 11. Haden became the first Browns player since 1968 to intercept a pass in four consecutive games.[10] He finished his rookie season with 64 combined tackles, 6 interceptions and one forced fumble. "
Haden went to the Pro Bowl his rookie season. On December 27, 2013, Haden was selected for his second Pro Bowl. On January 3, 2014, Haden received his first All-Pro selection, making the second team.
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Top 5 CB in the NFL per this fan base, and this board especially. LOL.
Overrated, always has been.
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I guess it was a money thing, which is nuts since we have a ton of Cap space.
I know they're also shopping Cam, and I think someone else, but I don't think they'll get any bites on either if they didn't get any on Haden.
Must be some targets on the Waiver Wires coming, and they're getting a head start on clearing some spots - this Weekend is deadline for cuts to 53, so it may get crazy.
May be the 2nd best outcome... Good Luck, Joe... hope you get a ring.
I know they're also shopping Cam, and I think someone else...
Brock?
Id question the "passion". The last couple of years he'd sit out for a hangnail.
Dunno... could have been realism as in he''d come to know that if wasn't in great health he couldn't compete.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
No... no difference whatsoever. When you're hurt your name goes into parentheses and to the end of the line. That's just how it's done. Experience is irrelevant to that standard depth chart practice.
Original determination was a cracked (broken) patella and no additional damage to tendons or ligaments... a/k/a best possible news, but that "some games" would be missed. Since then info has been scarce and confused.
There is a difference in how confident we are in someone's ability. Wilson is a rookie with no track record...and we have every right to be skeptical about his capabilities coming of an injury. The others....we have confidence in.
Is Wilson going to be such an asset such that it makes up for the loss of Haden? To me, either he or Stribling are the wild cards in the whole release of Joe.THEY have to be able to perform better than he, in my opinion.
There is a difference in how confident we are in someone's ability. Wilson is a rookie with no track record...and we have every right to be skeptical about his capabilities coming of an injury. The others....we have confidence in.
Nah... just another extraneous point raised by you. Very typical in conversations with you...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Don't know if Cleveland players every check these boards. But I for one want to wish Joe GOOD LUCK.. You've been one of the few bright spots in an otherwise black hole of despair as a Long time Browns fan.. Thank you for your commitment to our team and always keeping it classy!
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This hurts my heart.
I'm also going to have to find a new profile pic.
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the 2 joes were the only ones to stick by this team year after year while going through the yearly 'rebuilds'. hopefully he'll come back for the obligitory resign and retire as a brown.
and punch sashi in his thin black lips......
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May be the 2nd best outcome... Good Luck, Joe... hope you get a ring.
I know they're also shopping Cam, and I think someone else...
Brock?
Id question the "passion". The last couple of years he'd sit out for a hangnail.
Dunno... could have been realism as in he''d come to know that if wasn't in great health he couldn't compete.
May be the 2nd best outcome... Good Luck, Joe... hope you get a ring.
Brock?
Dunno... could have been realism as in he''d come to know that if wasn't in great health he couldn't compete.
Brock is no secret, that's pretty evident they want to unload him. Don't think it's going to happen, at least not until after the Season starts.
Grossi's saying to expect 5 - 6 new Players on this Roster that are not with the Team now . . . probably need a new thread for that.
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May be the 2nd best outcome... Good Luck, Joe... hope you get a ring.
Brock?
Dunno... could have been realism as in he''d come to know that if wasn't in great health he couldn't compete.
Brock is no secret, that's pretty evident they want to unload him. Don't think it's going to happen, at least not until after the Season starts.
Grossi's saying to expect 5 - 6 new Players on this Roster that are not with the Team now . . . probably need a new thread for that.
Grossi's saying to expect 5 - 6 new Players on this Roster that are not with the Team now . . . probably need a new thread for that.
How about...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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