Final 53....or not...
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imo Somewhere it's going to fall between Ogunjobi or Brantley to PS,now with TY McGill (NCSU WOOFpack in d house)in the fold OR Orchard or Meder Out..On--OL Zterup(get Winston from Cinn. in) or Durango to PS OR Dump Vitale OR 1 of Martin or Reiter which to me are the same player..
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Ok.....so we are now at 53 and the numbers seem whackadoodle in terms of how many at each position....
I know there is no set # for each position group and these things can evolve, But Im seeing some that I dont think will stick....
Here's what looks "off" to me.....(the short side)
1) 4 corner backs.....ridiculously low.....we need at least 2 more....heck, 3 will be playing A LOT at the same time.....
2) 5 linebackers......see CB....I guess we do have a couple DL types that can slide back, if needed.....(better not cut Orchard)
So....we are seriously lacking numbers(depth) in the CB and LB positions.......which means we have extras in ????
1) The most obvious.....4 QB's.....one will have to go.....
2) 10 O-Linemen.....way too many for the average team.....one(or 2) will have to go......no good ones, so PS is safe and likely for a couple
3) 10 D-linemen.....again...thats a lot....unless they are our bu LB's, as mentioned above.....
Wouldnt surprise me if the Browns are working the phones, trying to work trades to dump a DL or QB.....and get a CB , at least....
Possible trade bait could include....Kessler, Hogan, Orchard, Ogunjobi, Brantley....or maybe a surprise player...who knows?
Can we start the season with 4 CB's?.....kind of reminds me of last year, when we entered the season severely depleted on the OL and LB depth....but didnt address it until it was too late.......will we right that error this season, or just plod ahead with massive holes????
Ok.....so we are now at 53 and the numbers seem whackadoodle in terms of how many at each position....
I know there is no set # for each position group and these things can evolve, But Im seeing some that I dont think will stick....
Here's what looks "off" to me.....(the short side)
1) 4 corner backs.....ridiculously low.....we need at least 2 more....heck, 3 will be playing A LOT at the same time.....
2) 5 linebackers......see CB....I guess we do have a couple DL types that can slide back, if needed.....(better not cut Orchard)
So....we are seriously lacking numbers(depth) in the CB and LB positions.......which means we have extras in ????
1) The most obvious.....4 QB's.....one will have to go.....
2) 10 O-Linemen.....way too many for the average team.....one(or 2) will have to go......no good ones, so PS is safe and likely for a couple
3) 10 D-linemen.....again...thats a lot....unless they are our bu LB's, as mentioned above.....
Wouldnt surprise me if the Browns are working the phones, trying to work trades to dump a DL or QB.....and get a CB , at least....
Possible trade bait could include....Kessler, Hogan, Orchard, Ogunjobi, Brantley....or maybe a surprise player...who knows?
Can we start the season with 4 CB's?.....kind of reminds me of last year, when we entered the season severely depleted on the OL and LB depth....but didnt address it until it was too late.......will we right that error this season, or just plod ahead with massive holes????
The 4 CB situation makes me wonder why in the hell did they flat out dump Haden. Gonna rummage the scrap heap to find something better? Doubtful. If it was pay commisurate with performance, in this case the Browns just shot themselves in the foot.
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Ok.....so we are now at 53 and the numbers seem whackadoodle in terms of how many at each position....
I know there is no set # for each position group and these things can evolve, But Im seeing some that I dont think will stick....
Here's what looks "off" to me.....(the short side)
1) 4 corner backs.....ridiculously low.....we need at least 2 more....heck, 3 will be playing A LOT at the same time.....
2) 5 linebackers......see CB....I guess we do have a couple DL types that can slide back, if needed.....(better not cut Orchard)
So....we are seriously lacking numbers(depth) in the CB and LB positions.......which means we have extras in ????
1) The most obvious.....4 QB's.....one will have to go.....
2) 10 O-Linemen.....way too many for the average team.....one(or 2) will have to go......no good ones, so PS is safe and likely for a couple
3) 10 D-linemen.....again...thats a lot....unless they are our bu LB's, as mentioned above.....
Wouldnt surprise me if the Browns are working the phones, trying to work trades to dump a DL or QB.....and get a CB , at least....
Possible trade bait could include....Kessler, Hogan, Orchard, Ogunjobi, Brantley....or maybe a surprise player...who knows?
Can we start the season with 4 CB's?.....kind of reminds me of last year, when we entered the season severely depleted on the OL and LB depth....but didnt address it until it was too late.......will we right that error this season, or just plod ahead with massive holes????
The 4 CB situation makes me wonder why in the hell did they flat out dump Haden. Gonna rummage the scrap heap to find something better? Doubtful. If it was pay commisurate with performance, in this case the Browns just shot themselves in the foot.
The 4 CB situation makes me wonder why in the hell did they flat out dump Haden. Gonna rummage the scrap heap to find something better? Doubtful. If it was pay commisurate with performance, in this case the Browns just shot themselves in the foot.
Haden was pitiful in the preseason. In the Bucs game, Evans and Jackson didn't play. Haden was getting torched by guys who are likely about to be selling insurance.
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Ok.....so we are now at 53 and the numbers seem whackadoodle in terms of how many at each position....
I know there is no set # for each position group and these things can evolve, But Im seeing some that I dont think will stick....
Here's what looks "off" to me.....(the short side)
1) 4 corner backs.....ridiculously low.....we need at least 2 more....heck, 3 will be playing A LOT at the same time.....
2) 5 linebackers......see CB....I guess we do have a couple DL types that can slide back, if needed.....(better not cut Orchard)
So....we are seriously lacking numbers(depth) in the CB and LB positions.......which means we have extras in ????
1) The most obvious.....4 QB's.....one will have to go.....
2) 10 O-Linemen.....way too many for the average team.....one(or 2) will have to go......no good ones, so PS is safe and likely for a couple
3) 10 D-linemen.....again...thats a lot....unless they are our bu LB's, as mentioned above.....
Wouldnt surprise me if the Browns are working the phones, trying to work trades to dump a DL or QB.....and get a CB , at least....
Possible trade bait could include....Kessler, Hogan, Orchard, Ogunjobi, Brantley....or maybe a surprise player...who knows?
Can we start the season with 4 CB's?.....kind of reminds me of last year, when we entered the season severely depleted on the OL and LB depth....but didnt address it until it was too late.......will we right that error this season, or just plod ahead with massive holes????
The 4 CB situation makes me wonder why in the hell did they flat out dump Haden. Gonna rummage the scrap heap to find something better? Doubtful. If it was pay commisurate with performance, in this case the Browns just shot themselves in the foot.
The 4 CB situation makes me wonder why in the hell did they flat out dump Haden. Gonna rummage the scrap heap to find something better? Doubtful. If it was pay commisurate with performance, in this case the Browns just shot themselves in the foot.
Yeah....not crazy about the whole Haden deal.....it's a step back to the crap they did last year, which would really piss me off...
Basically, dumping players w/o a back up plan or any better players to fill the gap.....I get that these guys aren't our future, but if we dont have a replacement it's stupid(and angering) to have them chopping viable players......just a sign that they dont value winning right now......(which pisses me off)....
I see lots of positive steps with this team.....but also too many completely avoidable steps backward....
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The 4 CB situation makes me wonder why in the hell did they flat out dump Haden. Gonna rummage the scrap heap to find something better? Doubtful. If it was pay commisurate with performance, in this case the Browns just shot themselves in the foot.
Yeah....not crazy about the whole Haden deal.....it's a step back to the crap they did last year, which would really piss me off...
Basically, dumping players w/o a back up plan or any better players to fill the gap.....I get that these guys aren't our future, but if we dont have a replacement it's stupid(and angering) to have them chopping viable players......just a sign that they dont value winning right now......(which pisses me off)....
I see lots of positive steps with this team.....but also too many completely avoidable steps backward....
Yeah....not crazy about the whole Haden deal.....it's a step back to the crap they did last year, which would really piss me off...
Basically, dumping players w/o a back up plan or any better players to fill the gap.....I get that these guys aren't our future, but if we dont have a replacement it's stupid(and angering) to have them chopping viable players......just a sign that they dont value winning right now......(which pisses me off)....
I see lots of positive steps with this team.....but also too many completely avoidable steps backward....
^^^^ This. Sashi "we're happy where we are with the CB situation." You're not going to be happy if one of them gets hurt or concussed. Zero depth there.
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We were never going to fix every position this off season.
An issue with the low CB/LB nose count is that is where core ST'mers come from. Barring multiple, single-game injuries to one position, I think more Game Day impacts will come from ST's than the D.
You have to look at the PS as well... and right now it has a LB and a DB. More of each will be added. Some will likely come today from the names in the 2nd wave of waives we unleashed yesterday. They will practice with us and be available the week after any need may arise... same as an Inactive on the 53.
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Seems we may actually carry four QBs into the first week... http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Need-to-Know-Browns’-4-quarterback-room-likely-temporary/e9df25ab-407b-4415-99ec-41870bf48125
How much further will we carry four? Probably not much... This quote from the article makes me think the Kess speculation may be warranted.
“I think what is important is how we want to play on offense, in our system and getting to play. This is a new year, so we are starting over a little bit,” Jackson said.
The thing that Kess showed was not new this year was his willingness to throw down the field. And we know that is part of how Hue wants to play...
Both Kizer and Hogan were willing. If Woodrum was/is as well...
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I counted 5 CB's:
1) Jamar Taylor
2) Jason McCourty
3) Darius Hillary
4) Marcus Burley
5) Boddy-Calhoun
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I counted 5 CB's:
1) Jamar Taylor
2) Jason McCourty
3) Darius Hillary
4) Marcus Burley
5) Boddy-Calhoun
I counted 5 CB's:
1) Jamar Taylor
2) Jason McCourty
3) Darius Hillary
4) Marcus Burley
5) Boddy-Calhoun
They cut Burley and Hillary....then picked up Jordan.....which leaves 4
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I counted 5 CB's:
1) Jamar Taylor
2) Jason McCourty
3) Darius Hillary
4) Marcus Burley
5) Boddy-Calhoun
They cut Burley and Hillary....then picked up Jordan.....which leaves 4
They cut Burley and Hillary....then picked up Jordan.....which leaves 4
Do they still have a DB on the PUP list?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Do they still have a DB on the PUP list?
Howard Wilson.....a 4th or 5th round pick.....who I believe is out for the season.....(and, if not, will be coming back from a major injury with zero practice or experience).....
We should be alright. 4 QBs is a little weird though
4 cb's is weirder....I promise....we play 3 consistenly and if one goes down, we have only 1 guy left....and he has no experience and was just cut a few days ago....gonna leave us very exposed.....
I cant think of a year that we didnt have one or 2 go down for a measurable period....and w/o a legit #1 cb, we are gonna be eating some dirt in the defensive backfield fo sho......if our top guy goes, then well have a #3 covering ones.....a 4 covering 2's etc......not good.....
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Based on what I heard Hue mention about making a decision about the QBs later this week. I suspect they will cut/trade one of them and then add Burley or someone back to the 53. That would be my guess, but who really knows.
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could they decide to insert the Swiss Army knife of Mr. peppers into a back up corner roll
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Dont forget, you only dress 46... and you have 10 PS plus every other teams PS to bring up during the season
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