Wide Receiver Shopping

jcam222

@browns149 said:

Unless we get Randy Moss or Jerry Rice from 1998. We are a 2 win team. If we are lucky

Lol right now I'll settle for Santana Moss and a bowl of rice.

calfoxwc

let some younger receivers take up the most of the throws, bench britt. He just doesn't have it to catch the ball.

too bad, but it is what it is.

jcam222

@calfoxwc said:

let some younger receivers take up the most of the throws, bench britt. He just doesn't have it to catch the ball.

too bad, but it is what it is.

Totally on board with benching Britt. Having said that our "young guys" aren't NFL talents. We don't have an active receiver who can make the roster on any other team.

calfoxwc

Williams and Leslie may surprise us. They can actually CATCH the FREAKING PASSES.....

Coates... I don't get him. Higgins, either.

PoeticG

Even with the best receivers in the world, it's still gonna take a QB that kind find them while they are open to make it work...

gumby73

@jcam222 said:

Just give me something better than a BUG!!!!!!!

Your not getting any of those WR's..Ourlads & look at PS is about all you can get this time of year..#1.We are stuck with (1)Britt just like Bowe..trade deadline?nope..Britts in the line-up week 17...Ricardo Louis must go!! He gives us nothing weekly. Coats can't stay on the field (hammie)or is just to stupid as a steeler to learn a new playbook..(3)Kasen Williams is learning playbook & if we did not swoop him up Kasen was a WR3 behind TY Hilton & Moncrief as a Colt..Higgins was just bad at Colts, after meh at Ravens, after being told to hit pavement till Corey kissed pavement..(2)J. Leslie is in & should surpass Higgins..Does not sound like you ever saw Bug Howard play? Most liked Switzer but In 4 years at UNC, Bug played 53 games,146 catches with a recorded of 4 drops in 4 years with over 2000 yards & 18 TD's 6'4"(over 3 ft.vertical) 210lbs. with over 10" hands..Good luck finding that sitting on PS

PoeticG

Look at Tom Brady and the receivers that he has. A QB makes the guys around him better.

Kizer makes our Oline look bad, our receivers look like they can't catch and our RBs like they can't run. They get no rhythm out there because everyone has to CATER to Kizer.

It's making our Coaching Staff look silly, like they cannot evaluate the talent they have on the roster.

They have an outstanding QB riding the bench while we lose games because our QB isn't ready to play in the NFL.

They have Scooby Wright III sitting on AZ's practice squad, a player we were interested in and developing and haven't went back and claimed him.

They had Terrel Pryor and let him walk, what's the difference in what Pryor brings to this team that Britt doesn't?

They let our only quick twitch CB(Haden) walk straight onto Pittsburgh's sideline with ZERO compensation.

I've been trying to give these guys the benefit of the doubt, but when they are NOT playing to win, that's where I draw the line. You play to win the game or it's time to find someone who will.

They let Haden and Pryor go so that they could pay Osweiler his 16 Million dollars and get a second round pick in return. That second round pick better be able to play both ways on the football field AND make a significant impact on the team for what he is costing us.

For the ones making excuses for Kizer, at the least, I expect the same kind of treatment for Hogan when Kizer inevitably goes down for the count. Hogan threw 1 interception with 30 seconds left on the clock, trying to get into FG range before the half and our HC says "that's why he's the backup", are you kidding me?

Makes me wonder why some people want Kizer to start so badly? Watching him- It's like watching a car accident and a train wreck having a baby- It's all bad.

You know why it's all bad? Not because I don't want him to be the guy or any dumb bullshit like that. It's because he IS the single, most responsible reason for us being 0-3 right now. You know only 3 teams since 99 have started 0-3 and made the playoffs. Fuck that. Joe Thomas deserves to win. The Browns' Fans deserve to win. We can't win with Kizer right now.

Ghoolie

@jcam222 said:

We have got to do something to field more than a collection of practice squad guys. Target trading some of our lower to mid tier draft assets to secure:

Chargers Dontrelle Inman was being shopped in the preaseason.

Cowboys Brice Butler. They have some depth and can likely afford to move him

Jordan Matthews with the Bills would make a good get as well. Even though they recently traded for him they are pretty much in burn it down mode.

Jarvis Landry is cleared of charges in domestic case, trade for him.

In a pipe dream world maybe flip Houston's picks back to them for Deandre Hopkins

Hell bring me Vincent Jackson from his rocking chair he has to be bored by now. Just give me something better than a BUG!!!!!!!

Will you please shut the fuck up talking about our "draft assets. Before this Depo Sashit calamity came herw nobody ever utrered this fucking idiotic term.

The Browns pass on guys like Julio Jones, let Pryor and Gordon fizzle away and dear a cunt like Coleman, and you think what? That we have available "ASSETS" to all of a sudden just fix the FO stupidity?

I got news for you sparky, they already have a lot of "Assets" tied up on the existing shitpile.

nickers

If someone on this team could even hug a pair of balls , That would be progress!!

wargograw

@jcam222 said:

Lol right now I'll settle for Santana Moss and a bowl of rice.

I’ll settle for Ray Rice

SD_Tom

@nickers said:

If someone on this team could even hug a pair of balls , That would be progress!!

LMAO

The Gipper

So...what we need is one of those sure handed slow white guys? Brian Brennan, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman types?

And he don't have to be white. Jordan Leslie could be that guy. His one catch was something to behold.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/24/16357784/jordan-leslie-browns-colts-odell-beckham-catch-wow

Tour2ma

@jcam222 said:

Putting someone on the field in the receiver position that is actually NFL capable. Seriously we have a pile of shit and a rookie QB throwing to them. I am not suggesting we give out high round picks but the current stable of receivers has to be upgraded period.

Appreciate... if we need to upgrade to aid the evaluation and progression of Kizer, then I can get on board with that.

@jcam222 said:

We have got to do something to field more than a collection of practice squad guys. Target trading some of our lower to mid tier draft assets to secure:

Chargers Dontrelle Inman was being shopped in the preaseason.

Cowboys Brice Butler. They have some depth and can likely afford to move him

Jordan Matthews with the Bills would make a good get as well. Even though they recently traded for him they are pretty much in burn it down mode.

Jarvis Landry is cleared of charges in domestic case, trade for him.

In a pipe dream world maybe flip Houston's picks back to them for Deandre Hopkins

Hell bring me Vincent Jackson from his rocking chair he has to be bored by now. Just give me something better than a BUG!!!!!!!

Inman would seem to fill your bill. Had a nice 2016 with Rivers in SD. Has a career catch percentage of ~60% including a drop rate of 4%. If SD's #1 pick Williams is coming on, then Inman should be available... especially since he's pushing 29 yo. SD has three WRs on their PS.
Butler looks to be less desirable and a tougher get given DAL only has 4 WR on the 53 and only two more on the PS. Numbers aren't as good either.
I don't think Bills have given up on 2017 quite yet. Their transactions are bottom churning... just like ours.
Landry is going nowhere.
Hopkins ditto...
VJ? No... there's a reason he retired.

Add that:

as you indicated #4, Hopkins, is way more expensive than your original premise would seem to allow. I see # 5 and #3 too expensive as well.
we made a WR move... his name is Coates.

Aside... in looking your lesser known guys over I stumbled across a very friendly site.. https://www.playerprofiler.com/

If you do not already know it... check it out.

LondonBrown

PoG doesn't seem too pleased that Kizer is not Tom Brady

I.....just......can't

Mark O

@londonbrown said:

PoG doesn't seem too pleased that Kizer is not Tom Brady

I.....just......can't

He just has a hard on for the back up QB. He has a thing for guys who just aren't that good (save for Gordon, but he can't stop smoking marijuana to get himself on the field).

flyingfooldoug

So what happened to all the WRs that this FO drafted so far? Bad luck or bad talent evaluation?

calfoxwc

I believe it's neither - just slimmer pickins down the line...but there were priorities to build the defense

into a winner, and a dynamic young TE was a player they needed... I was fine with waiting on a wr, but not the

next draft. First or second round wr, flat out.

Tour2ma

That's a factor, cal... but Coleman fits pretty easily into the hard luck category.

Other picks? Went fishin' in 2016... cast a broad net that might end up empty beyond Devalve, who looks like a keeper.

Mudfly

@calfoxwc said:

a dynamic young TE was a player they needed... I was fine with waiting on a wr, but not the

next draft. First or second round wr, flat out.

You do understand we just drafted a WR in the first last year....right?.....plus 3 more in the later rounds.....plus signed a FA.....plus like 12 UDFA's?......and not one has shown up yet......

So....are you waiting for us to draft one or waiting for us to get one right?.......next years the charm(wink wink)....hahahahaha

Canton Dawg

@flyingfooldoug said:

So what happened to all the WRs that this FO drafted so far? Bad luck or bad talent evaluation?

That’s the point I’ve been making.

I’ve been hearing about all the great young talent this FO has brought on board (except for the skill positions).

We’ve drafted 5 WRs last year and signed a few FA’s, but we’re still lacking WR talent.

I put that on the FO.