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***Official Browns @ Texans Game Day Thread***

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  • I'm not throwing in the towel on Hogan, you shouldn't either. It's one game against a hot team, the NFL clearly wants to pump up Watson. Hogan had an off game. That is the exception to the rule. Stick with Hogan, give him another week to prepare. You can't expect him to be perfect yet. This team has to help out. There were multiple mistakes that WR's made this game. We'll have to review the tape and see where the mistakes were made. 

    Hogan didn't play his best game but he had little help. This was the Browns 16th consecutive road loss. It gonna take more than 3 days for Hogan to fix this. 

    Hogan is 0-1. 

    Kizer is 0-5. 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    I'm not throwing in the towel on Hogan, you shouldn't either. It's one game against a hot team, the NFL clearly wants to pump up Watson. Hogan had an off game. That is the exception to the rule. Stick with Hogan, give him another week to prepare. You can't expect him to be perfect yet. This team has to help out. There were multiple mistakes that WR's made this game. We'll have to review the tape and see where the mistakes were made. 

    Hogan didn't play his best game but he had little help. This was the Browns 16th consecutive road loss. It gonna take more than 3 days for Hogan to fix this. 

    Hogan is 0-1. 

    Kizer is 0-5. 

    Nope, nope, nope.

    Kizer was the reason the Browns were 0-5, if Hogan was in there the Browns would be at least 3-2. Sounds like what you've been saying, right?

    Now the backpedaling and excuse-making begins, just like I knew it would.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    There is NO EXCUSE- just facts. Hogan's had 3 days to play a HOT Texans team. Hogan's INT for a TD came because of poor route execution by the WR. Maybe multiple times. He didn't throw something that wasn't there for an INT. The defense made a play. 

    The INT to Duke was a little high for him but then Watson threw that same type of overthrow for an INT. 

    Don't make Hogan the sole excuse for the loss and turn a blind eye to the facts, that's all. This game had blame to go around. 

    How many holding calls did the refs call on the Browns that shouldn't have been called?

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Peppers sucks butt.

    The site told me you quoted me in a topic. I already knew what you were gonna post.

    You need a hobby old man. Living your last days in a retirement home as an average to below average troll is no way to go out.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    The site told me you quoted me in a topic. I already knew what you were gonna post.

    You need a hobby old man. Living your last days in a retirement home as an average to below average troll is no way to go out.

    I couldn’t give a Sheet less where he played in college but I am wholly underwhelmed with him right now.

    He’s playing out of position and infinity yards off the ball and that’s no doubt part of it, but still. Bad angles in pursuit 

    @poeticg said:

    There is NO EXCUSE- just facts. Hogan's had 3 days to play a HOT Texans team. Hogan's INT for a TD came because of poor route execution by the WR. Maybe multiple times. He didn't throw something that wasn't there for an INT. The defense made a play. 

    The INT to Duke was a little high for him but then Watson threw that same type of overthrow for an INT. 

    Don't make Hogan the sole excuse for the loss and turn a blind eye to the facts, that's all. This game had blame to go around. 

    How many holding calls did the refs call on the Browns that shouldn't have been called?

    Here’s a fact:

    Kevin Hogan sucks and you were extremely wrong.

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by

    Sorry PoG, I was with you 100% going into this game, but Hogan just didn't pass the eye test on what an NFL QB should look like in terms of velocity and ball placement...... The dude is tough and I like the kid, but he isn't going to be our QBOTF....... He's just another name on the back of that jersey, and likely won't be near the last. 

    What a sorry, sorry professional sports franchise....... It would be hard to suck this bad for this long if you were actually trying to, as sooner or later you would accidentally win. 

  • Penalties killed all of the momentum. Took first downs off the board. Made 2nd and 3rd n short into 3rd and longs. The lack of screen plays and plays with some movement were telling, maybe Hue set Hogan up to fail. We'll see if that's the case if he pulls Hogan before he's had a FAIR shake. 

    dawg2fanD dawg2fan wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Penalties killed all of the momentum. Took first downs off the board. Made 2nd and 3rd n short into 3rd and longs. The lack of screen plays and plays with some movement were telling, maybe Hue set Hogan up to fail. We'll see if that's the case if he pulls Hogan before he's had a FAIR shake. 

    Same story for both Kizer and Hogan.  They get nervous and make mistakes.  

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    I don't think that it was Hogan making the mistakes. I think the young WRs ran some bad routes. It wasn't even 'bad routes', it was more subtle little body placement issues that can be corrected. These guys have been playing with Kizer for 5 weeks, the timing is off. TIMING is what Hogan is good at. Maybe, just maybe the WRs and RBs need to sync to the playbook that Hogan is running and not the one Kizer has been making up.

  • Browns1216B Browns1216 wrote on last edited by

    with kizer, it's hitting the receivers in the hands and having the ball deflected for interceptions.  with hogan, it's overthrowing your receivers by a few feet for interceptions.  both are not ready to carry an NFL team on their shoulders.  Both have shown flashes but it's a tough choice, do you want a diarrhea milk shake or a snotsicle?  i don't envy hue right now.  Kessler is looking good right now but the Browns have to ride out the season with Kizer to leave no room for doubt that they need to draft a 1st round QB next season.

  • I don't think that it was Hogan making the mistakes. I think the young WRs ran some bad routes. It wasn't even 'bad routes', it was more subtle little body placement issues that can be corrected. These guys have been playing with Kizer for 5 weeks, the timing is off. TIMING is what Hogan is good at. Maybe, just maybe the WRs and RBs need to sync to the playbook that Hogan is running and not the one Kizer has been making up.

    RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    I don't think that it was Hogan making the mistakes. I think the young WRs ran some bad routes. It wasn't even 'bad routes', it was more subtle little body placement issues that can be corrected. These guys have been playing with Kizer for 5 weeks, the timing is off. TIMING is what Hogan is good at. Maybe, just maybe the WRs and RBs need to sync to the playbook that Hogan is running and not the one Kizer has been making up.

    This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint

  • @poeticg said:

    I don't think that it was Hogan making the mistakes. I think the young WRs ran some bad routes. It wasn't even 'bad routes', it was more subtle little body placement issues that can be corrected. These guys have been playing with Kizer for 5 weeks, the timing is off. TIMING is what Hogan is good at. Maybe, just maybe the WRs and RBs need to sync to the playbook that Hogan is running and not the one Kizer has been making up.

    This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @richiswhere said:

    This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint

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  • @poeticg said:

    I don't think that it was Hogan making the mistakes. I think the young WRs ran some bad routes. It wasn't even 'bad routes', it was more subtle little body placement issues that can be corrected. These guys have been playing with Kizer for 5 weeks, the timing is off. TIMING is what Hogan is good at. Maybe, just maybe the WRs and RBs need to sync to the playbook that Hogan is running and not the one Kizer has been making up.

    This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint

    M Marc1971 wrote on last edited by

    @richiswhere said:

    This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint

    Is Heisenberg back in business😆

  • @poeticg said:

    I don't think that it was Hogan making the mistakes. I think the young WRs ran some bad routes. It wasn't even 'bad routes', it was more subtle little body placement issues that can be corrected. These guys have been playing with Kizer for 5 weeks, the timing is off. TIMING is what Hogan is good at. Maybe, just maybe the WRs and RBs need to sync to the playbook that Hogan is running and not the one Kizer has been making up.

    This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by

    @richiswhere said:

    This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint

    So that's who Josh has been hanging out with...... makes total sense now! 

  • It amazes me how this team gets bitch slapped worse than the week prior... Just AMAZING!

    M Marc1971 wrote on last edited by

    @nickers said:

    It amazes me how this team gets bitch slapped worse than the week prior... Just AMAZING!

    Someone should clue our coaches in that they're supposed to develop players to get better, not worse.

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by

    I'm going to have my wife wear a Browns jersey to bed tonight and do to her what the Haslam's have been doing to us fans

  • I'm going to have my wife wear a Browns jersey to bed tonight and do to her what the Haslam's have been doing to us fans

    M Marc1971 wrote on last edited by

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I'm going to have my wife wear a Browns jersey to bed tonight and do to her what the Haslam's have been doing to us fans

    Well in that case, no lube...😉

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Peppers sucks butt.

    The site told me you quoted me in a topic. I already knew what you were gonna post.

    You need a hobby old man. Living your last days in a retirement home as an average to below average troll is no way to go out.

    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan

    @mld-woody said:

    The site told me you quoted me in a topic. I already knew what you were gonna post.

    You need a hobby old man. Living your last days in a retirement home as an average to below average troll is no way to go out.

    You need a girl friend!  But you llike d i c k, so your old man must be ashamed.

  • @mld-woody said:

    The site told me you quoted me in a topic. I already knew what you were gonna post.

    You need a hobby old man. Living your last days in a retirement home as an average to below average troll is no way to go out.

    DieHard is a miserable twat. You were being too kind. The only thing he's good at is liking everything miktoxic posts like he's a school girl with a crush.

    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan

    @dutch-oven said:

    DieHard is a miserable twat. You were being too kind. The only thing he's good at is liking everything miktoxic posts like he's a school girl with a crush.

    But your moma liked it in the back of a uhaul, that's where you were conceived.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    DieHard is a miserable twat. You were being too kind. The only thing he's good at is liking everything miktoxic posts like he's a school girl with a crush.

    But your moma liked it in the back of a uhaul, that's where you were conceived.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    But your moma liked it in the back of a uhaul, that's where you were conceived.

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  • @brownsfan4evr said:

    I was all for starting Hogan, but now I'm thinking just give the ball back to Kizer, let him make his mistakes, and either learn from them, or start looking at drafting a QB next season.

    The cycles his fan base goes through are hilarious. 

    @browns149 said:

    What does Nick Saban know?

    We have baseball guys and lawyers picking our players.

    Just let that sink in for a minute

    He said the same thing about Manziel. Worthless endorsement. Maybe we can sign Vince Young while we’re at it. 

    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by

    @wargograw said:

    The cycles his fan base goes through are hilarious. 

    He said the same thing about Manziel. Worthless endorsement. Maybe we can sign Vince Young while we’re at it. 

    No, he did not. According to Saban, he said "I do think he has an NFL future" in speaking with Manziel.

    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/17/4742184/johnny-manziel-nfl-draft-nick-saban

    In regards to Watson, he said he was "the best player in college football since Cam Newton"

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17108849/nick-saban-deshaun-watson-clemson-tigers-best-player-college-cam-newton

    That's an objective difference dude. To say an endorsement from Nick Saban is worthless is just plain dumb and you know it.

  • @wargograw said:

    The cycles his fan base goes through are hilarious

    When you can measure your Browns fandom in decades like some of us can, rather than in months like you can, then and only then will you be qualified to judge the fan base. 

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by

    @d-bone said:

    When you can measure your Browns fandom in decades like some of us can, rather than in months like you can, then and only then will you be qualified to judge the fan base. 

    Nah. You’re still an idiot. So who’s your QB du jour this week? Since Hogan flamed our massively. 

    @browns149 said:

    I’d still take Saban’s opinion over our baseball guy and lawyers  opinion 

    So you think Johnny Manziel should still be on our team. Got it. 

  • @d-bone said:

    When you can measure your Browns fandom in decades like some of us can, rather than in months like you can, then and only then will you be qualified to judge the fan base. 

    Nah. You’re still an idiot. So who’s your QB du jour this week? Since Hogan flamed our massively. 

    @browns149 said:

    I’d still take Saban’s opinion over our baseball guy and lawyers  opinion 

    So you think Johnny Manziel should still be on our team. Got it. 

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by

    @wargograw said:

    Nah. You’re still an idiot. So who’s your QB du jour this week? Since Hogan flamed our massively. 

    So you think Johnny Manziel should still be on our team. Got it. 

    No. But Saban has way more cred then he idiots in the Browns front office