Start Kevin Hogan!
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dry anal.... that's gross and really funny.
It doesn't really matter... Hogan and Kessler...they're backups. Kizer...he's probably a more athletic Brandon Weeden but it will take a few more starts to know for sure. Its what Cody Hogans lover is missing in this whole thing. It's not that most of us think that Kizer is the answer...we just know that Hogan and Kessler aren't the answer and most don't think Kizer is the answer either, but it takes more than 1/4 of a season to know that for sure.
And yet here you are, declaring you know Hogan is NOT after 1 start. Prophetic.
And yet here you are, declaring you know Hogan is NOT after 1 start. Prophetic.
Yes...because he doesn't have the necessary skills as the draft preview pointed out to you if you chose to actually read the whole thing and not just the parts that made you hard.
Done with you....you're boring me with your gay love for players who either aren't talented enough or would rather get high than play football.
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I read the whole thing. It said and I quote. - He has enough arm to make all the throw, end quote. Every negative thing was something that was correctable, and some of that has already been fixed in his first year in the NFL.
We are a glorified college team at this point of our rebuild. Don't you get that?
We are the youngest team in the league, and by a lot. Maybe having one of the best respected, smart and hard working college QBs (of all time) would benefit this young team? ... as opposed as Kizer and Kessler that didn't win in college and somehow they are expected to win at the pro level?
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Start Hogan if you want to win games? What would be the point of that now?
The browns are not making the playoffs so they’re better off going 0-16 than 3-13. Fans should be hoping for nothing other than the number one pick now.
Instead they want to tear the whole thing down and try and win between 4-6 games again for the next 10 years. Maddening.
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I think that winning this next game is going to be tough no matter who plays QB.
The Vikings are 5-2?
Here is what I want to happen.
Name Hogan the starter for the rest of the season. Let him have his ups and downs, maybe Hogan shows he can be our guy going forward. We build on what works well and as we get some offensive pieces back, ala Gordon and Coleman, I think we'll see that Hogan can get the job done. Finishing the season at 6-10 would be progress by any stretch. Then if Hogan can be the QB we've needed forever we won't have to burn a first rounder on a QB in the draft.
Build the Defense, Build the Offense and Hogan can win us games.
Do this and we are a playoff team next year under Hue and Hogan.
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David Shaw era (2011–present)
After Harbaugh left to coach the San Francisco 49ers, the team's offensive coordinator David Shaw became head coach. Shaw led the team to three consecutive BCS bowl games, including two Rose Bowls. The team was led by its quarterback, Andrew Luck, and its dominating defense. After Luck departed for the NFL Draft, Kevin Hogan became the team's starting quarterback. Hogan led the team to a Rose Bowl victory over Wisconsin. The team returned to the Rose Bowl again the following year in the 2013 season, but lost a heart-breaker to Michigan State.
After a rebuilding season in 2014, the 2015 season saw Shaw, Hogan, and Heisman-candidate Christian McCaffrey lead Stanford to its third Pac-12 championship in four years, and consequently, its third Rose Bowl in four years. With the 2015 conference title, Shaw became the first Stanford coach in 80 years to win three conference titles and only the third ever in program history (after Tiny Thornhill from 1933–1935 and Pop Warner in 1924, 1926, and 1927).
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So David Shaw wrecked the world with Kevin Hogan at QB but Hue can't win a game? Yeah, the problem is Kevin Hogan and his 1 start right?
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We should totally start Hogan, he's a proven winner. I mean, the guy picked up and body-slammed Andre the Giant in front of 93k people.
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We need to get Peppers into the offense. It amazes me that how little an effect Peppers has on the Defensive side of the ball and how mightily our Offense has struggled... Bring Peppers over to play some Offense. Hogan, Peppers, Njoku, Duke and Britt would light London on Fire!!
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Dawg if I was coaching, I'd let these guys have fun.
Run some Wild Dawg with Peppers at QB and Hogan and Duke at WR. Run a ton of screen plays and draw plays and HAVE FUN> Hogan can make this better- give him some love and support and lets play some Cleveland Browns Football!
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Danny Shelton at LT.
Myles Garrett at TE
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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Danny Shelton at LT.
Myles Garrett at TE
You had some cool ideas then you go off the rails with this stuff.
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You had some cool ideas then you go off the rails with this stuff.
He's never even seen the rails....can't go off them if you're never in the same area code as the rails.
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You had some cool ideas then you go off the rails with this stuff.
That was my- "Everything is on the table/reinvent the game process"
Was thinking about a sweep with Shelton at FB and like a couple badass defensive guys just clearing the way on a third and 3... with Peppers at RB.
Just kind of a play on Greg Williams saying that the Defense is gonna win a game for us. Defense be like, "We just got a turnover, we're not fittin to punt, we's got dis!"
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I love your passion Poe, but all these excuses and you're missing one key point.
Hogan made all those mistakes AND he did nothing noteworthy positive. Peyton Manning threw interceptions?? No Sheet. He also made things happen on the field. Hogan doesn't. Or... Hogan DIDN'T when he was given the opportunity to show he could. That's why you get laughed at when you compare him to HOF quarterbacks. You could throw ME in there at QB, and I would suck... But I could make the same arguments defending MY shitty self that you're making when you bring up that so-and-so Pro-Bowler Shmucked up too.
I'm not opposed to starting him. But it's not because he's gonna be the guy who gets us wins. It's because our three QBs right now are just slightly different flavours of suck. It really doesn't matter who starts... He'll suck.
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I love your passion Poe, but all these excuses and you're missing one key point.
Hogan made all those mistakes AND he did nothing noteworthy positive. Peyton Manning threw interceptions?? No Sheet. He also made things happen on the field. Hogan doesn't. Or... Hogan DIDN'T when he was given the opportunity to show he could. That's why you get laughed at when you compare him to HOF quarterbacks. You could throw ME in there at QB, and I would suck... But I could make the same arguments defending MY shitty self that you're making when you bring up that so-and-so Pro-Bowler Shmucked up too.
I'm not opposed to starting him. But it's not because he's gonna be the guy who gets us wins. It's because our three QBs right now are just slightly different flavours of suck. It really doesn't matter who starts... He'll suck.
I love your passion Poe, but all these excuses and you're missing one key point.
Hogan made all those mistakes AND he did nothing noteworthy positive. Peyton Manning threw interceptions?? No Sheet. He also made things happen on the field. Hogan doesn't. Or... Hogan DIDN'T when he was given the opportunity to show he could. That's why you get laughed at when you compare him to HOF quarterbacks. You could throw ME in there at QB, and I would suck... But I could make the same arguments defending MY shitty self that you're making when you bring up that so-and-so Pro-Bowler Shmucked up too.
I'm not opposed to starting him. But it's not because he's gonna be the guy who gets us wins. It's because our three QBs right now are just slightly different flavours of suck. It really doesn't matter who starts... He'll suck.
I get that we are all jaded in our views of Quarterback... we've had more starting QBs since 2000 than we had U.S. Presidents in the 1900's. But just for old times sake, what if Hogan doesn't suck?
Would everyone please, for one minute, hypothetically speaking- What if Hogan is the answer? What then?
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Oh im sure gregg williams would be ecstatic anout sending his star #1 pick DE out across the middle or his starting DT anchor playing fullback. Ffs
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