If you’re freaked out by 1-22, you’re looking at the wrong thing
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So how should I be looking at it? Are we getting better?
I dont see a lot of good young players out there. Our best player is in his 30s and now gone for the year.
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You didn’t bother listening then. Got it.
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You didn’t bother listening then. Got it.
You didn’t bother listening then. Got it.
no I did..he spent the first 90 seconds of the clip talking to himself about carson wentz....but again, what are we building?
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You didn’t bother listening then. Got it.
no I did..he spent the first 90 seconds of the clip talking to himself about carson wentz....but again, what are we building?
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Right now, a good defense.
actually we aren't. if you go by some raw counting stat nonsense we are 17th or so which isnt too bad, but in terms of meaningful value in the appropriate context we are bottom of the barrel...
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Right now, a good defense.
actually we aren't. if you go by some raw counting stat nonsense we are 17th or so which isnt too bad, but in terms of meaningful value in the appropriate context we are bottom of the barrel...
actually we aren't. if you go by some raw counting stat nonsense we are 17th or so which isnt too bad, but in terms of meaningful value in the appropriate context we are bottom of the barrel...
If you go by something that doesn’t fit your argument, you mean?
We have improved in almost every single meaningful per drive statistic on defense, according to Football Outsiders. Yards per drive, points per drive, turnovers per drive, etc. We are top five in FG per drive, punts per drive and 3 and out percentage. That’s legitimate improvement across the board.
And that’s with two of our best players injured to begin the season.
Our defensive acquisitions have been fantastic moves but are completely and wholly overshadowed by our offensive mishaps.
We lead the league in offensive interception percentage and are among the worst in penalties. With a capable QB and a slightly more experienced team that doesn’t turn the ball over every three to five minutes, our defense would be even better.
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Good stuff above and a related article on the defense below
https://nflspinzone.com/2017/10/23/cleveland-browns-defense-dominant-loss-titans/amp/
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You didn’t bother listening then. Got it.
no I did..he spent the first 90 seconds of the clip talking to himself about carson wentz....but again, what are we building?
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Maybe the FO can petition to have the scoreboard turned off each week.... apparently it's misleading when the other team has a higher number on it at the end of 21 out of 22 games.
Maybe the FO can petition to have the scoreboard turned off each week.... apparently it's misleading when the other team has a higher number on it at the end of 21 out of 22 games.
They aren’t bothered about the score or record at the moment. They weren’t last year either.
That doesn’t seem to be sinking in most fans brains but you need to accept it or you’ll be banging your head against a wall every week they don’t win a game.
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Crystal Palace fans in London are saying they have never seen a worse team than them grace the capital of England in years .......they have not seen who is coming to London this weekend

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Damn maths nerds, they know nothing about anybody, fire them all
Kyle Kelly
@KyleKellyCLE
#Browns CB Browns Boddy-Calhoun is the the least targeted CB in the NFL per coverage snap. That's really really good.
10:13 pm · 23 Oct 2017
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Crystal Palace fans in London are saying they have never seen a worse team than them grace the capital of England in years .......they have not seen who is coming to London this weekend

Crystal Palace fans in London are saying they have never seen a worse team than them grace the capital of England in years .......they have not seen who is coming to London this weekend

Palace just beat the league champions two weeks ago, I wouldn’t give the Browns much chance against the Patriots
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Id say being top 10 in run defense in just one year under a brand new scheme and mostly without the #1 pick......aint too vad and is indicative of building something
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Damn maths nerds, they know nothing about anybody, fire them all
Kyle Kelly
@KyleKellyCLE
#Browns CB Browns Boddy-Calhoun is the the least targeted CB in the NFL per coverage snap. That's really really good.
10:13 pm · 23 Oct 2017
Damn maths nerds, they know nothing about anybody, fire them all
Kyle Kelly
@KyleKellyCLE
#Browns CB Browns Boddy-Calhoun is the the least targeted CB in the NFL per coverage snap. That's really really good.
10:13 pm · 23 Oct 2017
We have some nice, sneaky talent.
Everyone loved how we groomed Buster Skrine and guys like that. We have a whole team of that now.
This team down the road is really talented.
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Damn maths nerds, they know nothing about anybody, fire them all
Kyle Kelly
@KyleKellyCLE
#Browns CB Browns Boddy-Calhoun is the the least targeted CB in the NFL per coverage snap. That's really really good.
10:13 pm · 23 Oct 2017
We have some nice, sneaky talent.
Everyone loved how we groomed Buster Skrine and guys like that. We have a whole team of that now.
This team down the road is really talented.
We have some nice, sneaky talent.
Everyone loved how we groomed Buster Skrine and guys like that. We have a whole team of that now.
This team down the road is really talented not counting QB, WR, FS and LT (sans Joe)
FIFY
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Maybe the FO can petition to have the scoreboard turned off each week.... apparently it's misleading when the other team has a higher number on it at the end of 21 out of 22 games.
They aren’t bothered about the score or record at the moment. They weren’t last year either.
That doesn’t seem to be sinking in most fans brains but you need to accept it or you’ll be banging your head against a wall every week they don’t win a game.
... you need to accept it or you’ll be banging your head against a wall every week they don’t win a game.
You want this crowd to give up their therapy?
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An entire new roster, it takes longer than 1.5 drafts, which was the gist of the podcast.
The biggest crock of Sheet out there.. Take this slag team and burn it...
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I have my doubts about Sashi and Co. picking talent for the offense. That WR festival that ended in a hand full of dirt should not instill much confidence in their decision making. Louis, Payton, Coleman, and Higgins have been dumpster water since being drafted.
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I can't believe anybody can seriously look at our defense and say they aren't a good defense with
serious talent and a kickass run defense
Give a fast lb, a terrific cover cb, a very good fs, and this is a top defense in the nfl.
the pass defense does need some more speed....
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