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  • After yet another week of suckitude?  

    We are *getting worse*.

    We were better *last year*.  Our pythag was better, our chance to win games was better based on game control and in-game winning percentages, etc.  We probably werent the worst team in the nfl(probably 28th or so) last year.  This year we ARE the worst team in the nfl.

    We are GETTING WORSE.  Going into the second half of the second year of this regime.  We have been historically bad, and even despite being historically bad we are ACTUALLY GETTING WORSE.  

    Is it just going to be more sunshine pumping this week?

    R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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    @tacosman said:

    After yet another week of suckitude?  

    We are *getting worse*.

    We were better *last year*.  Our pythag was better, our chance to win games was better based on game control and in-game winning percentages, etc.  We probably werent the worst team in the nfl(probably 28th or so) last year.  This year we ARE the worst team in the nfl.

    We are GETTING WORSE.  Going into the second half of the second year of this regime.  We have been historically bad, and even despite being historically bad we are ACTUALLY GETTING WORSE.  

    Is it just going to be more sunshine pumping this week?

    Everyone take a knee! The guy who just said there were FOUR teams worse than the Browns last year is dropping knowledge. 

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #17

    The sunshine Pumpers don't have a leg to stand on.. This product is pure Sheet.

  • @baconhound said:

    The one thing we can all agree on is the QB is by far the most important skill position player and unfortunately drafting them is an inexact science.

    Not relevant. The return outwighs the risk. You have high picks you gamnle them on Qbs not idiot OL and edge rushers.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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    @ghoolie said:

    Not relevant. The return outwighs the risk. You have high picks you gamnle them on Qbs not idiot OL and edge rushers.

    David Carr would disagree

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #19

    We played quite well today...considering we have no friggin' wr's and were without Joe Thomas.  (Drango played admirably).

    - just saw Bademosi make a nice defensive play for the Patriots -

    Our QB position did not kill us today (how unusual)....but the position didn't win the game either.

    I watched with my best friend (a lifelong Vikings fan) and when we got down 2 td's he said, "There's still plenty of time" and I said, "But we don't have the offensive players to be a come from behind team.  We're beat."

    That's The Browns.  There is No Way that we can come from behind with the game clock as an enemy.  Until we acquire a passing attack...we're gonna suck.  That's all there is to it. 

  • GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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    Let'skeep.the record straight......I am the only guy, here and in the media who dared to say that the 2017 team would be worse than the 2016 unit.

    I called the last two drafts total busts in terms of improving the fortunes of the team.

    The majority of you blasted me but now months later are posting the same crap you were pissed off at me for posting 8 months ago.

    For 18 years Browns fans and management alike have purposely.avoided the flashies, most expensive and problematic playmakers. For 18 years the analyticl-fundamental-building strategy has proven itself to be the food of fools and yet the Browns cling to it.

    I would like to see Hue get a big bonus and a 5 year contract extension. This managing assets stuff is really starting to pay dividends.

  • We played quite well today...considering we have no friggin' wr's and were without Joe Thomas.  (Drango played admirably).

    - just saw Bademosi make a nice defensive play for the Patriots -

    Our QB position did not kill us today (how unusual)....but the position didn't win the game either.

    I watched with my best friend (a lifelong Vikings fan) and when we got down 2 td's he said, "There's still plenty of time" and I said, "But we don't have the offensive players to be a come from behind team.  We're beat."

    That's The Browns.  There is No Way that we can come from behind with the game clock as an enemy.  Until we acquire a passing attack...we're gonna suck.  That's all there is to it. 

    LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @orion said:

    We played quite well today...considering we have no friggin' wr's and were without Joe Thomas.  (Drango played admirably).

    - just saw Bademosi make a nice defensive play for the Patriots -

    Our QB position did not kill us today (how unusual)....but the position didn't win the game either.

    I watched with my best friend (a lifelong Vikings fan) and when we got down 2 td's he said, "There's still plenty of time" and I said, "But we don't have the offensive players to be a come from behind team.  We're beat."

    That's The Browns.  There is No Way that we can come from behind with the game clock as an enemy.  Until we acquire a passing attack...we're gonna suck.  That's all there is to it. 

    Clock management also sucks.  No sense of urgency or trying 

  • We played quite well today...considering we have no friggin' wr's and were without Joe Thomas.  (Drango played admirably).

    - just saw Bademosi make a nice defensive play for the Patriots -

    Our QB position did not kill us today (how unusual)....but the position didn't win the game either.

    I watched with my best friend (a lifelong Vikings fan) and when we got down 2 td's he said, "There's still plenty of time" and I said, "But we don't have the offensive players to be a come from behind team.  We're beat."

    That's The Browns.  There is No Way that we can come from behind with the game clock as an enemy.  Until we acquire a passing attack...we're gonna suck.  That's all there is to it. 

    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
    #22

    @orion said:

    We played quite well today...considering we have no friggin' wr's and were without Joe Thomas.  (Drango played admirably).

    - just saw Bademosi make a nice defensive play for the Patriots -

    Our QB position did not kill us today (how unusual)....but the position didn't win the game either.

    I watched with my best friend (a lifelong Vikings fan) and when we got down 2 td's he said, "There's still plenty of time" and I said, "But we don't have the offensive players to be a come from behind team.  We're beat."

    That's The Browns.  There is No Way that we can come from behind with the game clock as an enemy.  Until we acquire a passing attack...we're gonna suck.  That's all there is to it. 

    Joe Thomas is a dime a dozen player. A TOTAL waste of a #1. You had a nobody do.just as well against a constantly nlitzing team. In fact without Joe Thomas Kizer was under less pressure today.

    Thomas is an over rated lard A$$ who needs to be cut loose, today.

  • @orion said:

    We played quite well today...considering we have no friggin' wr's and were without Joe Thomas.  (Drango played admirably).

    - just saw Bademosi make a nice defensive play for the Patriots -

    Our QB position did not kill us today (how unusual)....but the position didn't win the game either.

    I watched with my best friend (a lifelong Vikings fan) and when we got down 2 td's he said, "There's still plenty of time" and I said, "But we don't have the offensive players to be a come from behind team.  We're beat."

    That's The Browns.  There is No Way that we can come from behind with the game clock as an enemy.  Until we acquire a passing attack...we're gonna suck.  That's all there is to it. 

    Joe Thomas is a dime a dozen player. A TOTAL waste of a #1. You had a nobody do.just as well against a constantly nlitzing team. In fact without Joe Thomas Kizer was under less pressure today.

    Thomas is an over rated lard A$$ who needs to be cut loose, today.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @ghoolie said:

    Thomas is an over rated lard A$$ who needs to be cut loose, today.

    Actually, you cut lousy players...not HOF'ers who still do the job well.  Look elsewhere on the roster to take out your trigger finger aggressions.  

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
    #24

    Well the glass 1/2 full guy in me thinks:

    1) Kizer wasn't caught partying the night before the game.

    2) Kizer actually played an entire game for once and wasn't yanked like a Yo-Yo by 1-23 Hue. 

    3) North Korea didn't launch a nuclear weapon at us during the game.

    4) I have the rest of the day to not care less about the Browns. 

  • Next week is a bye week.

    Which means the "keep the organization together" guys won't have a loss next week to slow them down.

    D Dawgs89 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Next week is a bye week.

    Which means the "keep the organization together" guys won't have a loss next week to slow them down.

    Yet somehow they ( Don't ask how) will lose to the bye...

  • Well the glass 1/2 full guy in me thinks:

    1) Kizer wasn't caught partying the night before the game.

    2) Kizer actually played an entire game for once and wasn't yanked like a Yo-Yo by 1-23 Hue. 

    3) North Korea didn't launch a nuclear weapon at us during the game.

    4) I have the rest of the day to not care less about the Browns. 

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Well the glass 1/2 full guy in me thinks:

    1) Kizer wasn't caught partying the night before the game.

    2) Kizer actually played an entire game for once and wasn't yanked like a Yo-Yo by 1-23 Hue. 

    3) North Korea didn't launch a nuclear weapon at us during the game.

    4) I have the rest of the day to not care less about the Browns. 

    Nice to watch the full slate of games without the Browns distracting me.    Something else that is noticable is how much better every team looks compared to the Browns.

  • S SD_Tom wrote on last edited by
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    The process is simple. Draft the worst possible option at QB we can..... rinse, repeat.

  • @d-bone said:

    Well the glass 1/2 full guy in me thinks:

    1) Kizer wasn't caught partying the night before the game.

    2) Kizer actually played an entire game for once and wasn't yanked like a Yo-Yo by 1-23 Hue. 

    3) North Korea didn't launch a nuclear weapon at us during the game.

    4) I have the rest of the day to not care less about the Browns. 

    Nice to watch the full slate of games without the Browns distracting me.    Something else that is noticable is how much better every team looks compared to the Browns.

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    Nice to watch the full slate of games without the Browns distracting me.    Something else that is noticable is how much better every team looks compared to the Browns.

    Yep, I just watched Trubisky throw a nice rainbow to Miller for a TD.

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
    #29

    Next year That will change.

  • @mark-o said:

    Nice to watch the full slate of games without the Browns distracting me.    Something else that is noticable is how much better every team looks compared to the Browns.

    Yep, I just watched Trubisky throw a nice rainbow to Miller for a TD.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @canton-dawg said:

    Yep, I just watched Trubisky throw a nice rainbow to Miller for a TD.

    He's made some nice throws...but he looks lost a lot.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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    What's irritating me is reading how Kizer made improvements. He didn't make any improvements. He threw a terrible pass that SHOULD'VE been picked. IN THE RED ZONE. He missed a WIDE OPEN Dreggs when he threw an awful pass to Devalve that he couldn't touch because he ran into a DEFENDER (IN THE RED ZONE), he overthrew Njoku on an early crucial 3rd down, he routinely missed receivers, and he once again didn't throw a freaking touchdown pass. Read that again. Our QB didn't throw a freaking touchdown pass...again. 

    Did the receivers help him? No. Njoku dropped a big one. Seth dropped a tough one. Hue Jackson screwed up the clock management again and cost us 3 points. Our kicker cost us 4 points. And the defense fell apart after a pretty solid first half...probably because they were exhausted. But Kizer can't push the ball down the field. He can't compete the tough (or the easy for that matter) passes in the red zone, he still can't score a freaking touchdown unless we get to the 1 yard line and he runs it in, and he's still wildly inconsistent. 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Yep, I just watched Trubisky throw a nice rainbow to Miller for a TD.

    He's made some nice throws...but he looks lost a lot.

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    He's made some nice throws...but he looks lost a lot.

    Today is his third NFL start, I think that can be expected.

  • @mark-o said:

    He's made some nice throws...but he looks lost a lot.

    Today is his third NFL start, I think that can be expected.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @canton-dawg said:

    Today is his third NFL start, I think that can be expected.

    And that wasn't a TD apparently just a few minutes ago.   I think we might have made the right choice passing on him.   Don't think we can say that about Wentz and Watson.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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    I'm OK with Trubisky pass because we couldn't get him and Garrett (not really). But...if Trubisky turns into a stud, then it'll be yet another blown qb pick from our brass, and 1 more nail in their coffin...if there aren't enough already. 

  • I'm OK with Trubisky pass because we couldn't get him and Garrett (not really). But...if Trubisky turns into a stud, then it'll be yet another blown qb pick from our brass, and 1 more nail in their coffin...if there aren't enough already. 

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @jiggins7919 said:

    I'm OK with Trubisky pass because we couldn't get him and Garrett (not really). But...if Trubisky turns into a stud, then it'll be yet another blown qb pick from our brass, and 1 more nail in their coffin...if there aren't enough already. 

    We are running out of nails.