The... I am batting (maybe alone) for the front office thread
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No, I'm not.
Yes you are , Faggot!
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I guess the owners of the Browns weren't told that they should expect to lose all but a single game in the first two years of The Process? War should set 'em straight.......
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/11/jason_mccourty_says_haslams_ad.html
I guess the owners of the Browns weren't told that they should expect to lose all but a single game in the first two years of The Process? War should set 'em straight.......
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/11/jason_mccourty_says_haslams_ad.html
Who did expect this? Not me, but in retrospect when McC left for the Jets, I shoulda seen the possibility comin'... and so should have the Organization. Too much faith in Kessler... how could I fall for that?
But now that it's here... now that a second, consecutive #1 overall is a strong possibility with Josh Rosen waiting a "With the first pick" announcement, I am staying the course.
At least it appears the Haslam's are still on board... or at least I do not know what else to takeaway from this:
Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet
#Browns
owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam met with players this week to discuss rebuilding, while offering perspective & support during a winless season:
Since the meeting reportedly took place wit the entire team, we shouldn't have to wait too long to learn the tone and flavor of it."When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I guess the owners of the Browns weren't told that they should expect to lose all but a single game in the first two years of The Process? War should set 'em straight.......
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/11/jason_mccourty_says_haslams_ad.html
Who did expect this? Not me, but in retrospect when McC left for the Jets, I shoulda seen the possibility comin'... and so should have the Organization. Too much faith in Kessler... how could I fall for that?
But now that it's here... now that a second, consecutive #1 overall is a strong possibility with Josh Rosen waiting a "With the first pick" announcement, I am staying the course.
At least it appears the Haslam's are still on board... or at least I do not know what else to takeaway from this:
Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet
#Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam met with players this week to discuss rebuilding, while offering perspective & support during a winless season:
Since the meeting reportedly took place wit the entire team, we shouldn't have to wait too long to learn the tone and flavor of it.But now that it's here... now that a second, consecutive #1 overall is a strong possibility with Josh Rosen waiting a "With the first pick" announcement, I am staying the course.
You found a lamp, rubbed it and out I popped...... Rosen at #1 or Cousins + BPA at #1?
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I guess the owners of the Browns weren't told that they should expect to lose all but a single game in the first two years of The Process? War should set 'em straight.......
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/11/jason_mccourty_says_haslams_ad.html
Who did expect this? Not me, but in retrospect when McC left for the Jets, I shoulda seen the possibility comin'... and so should have the Organization. Too much faith in Kessler... how could I fall for that?
But now that it's here... now that a second, consecutive #1 overall is a strong possibility with Josh Rosen waiting a "With the first pick" announcement, I am staying the course.
At least it appears the Haslam's are still on board... or at least I do not know what else to takeaway from this:
Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet
#Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam met with players this week to discuss rebuilding, while offering perspective & support during a winless season:
Since the meeting reportedly took place wit the entire team, we shouldn't have to wait too long to learn the tone and flavor of it.Since the meeting reportedly took place wit the entire team, we shouldn't have to wait too long to learn the tone and flavor of it.From what I read about it, he's keeping everyone, which I don't necessarily object to at all. I think people need to be added (such as an OC for Hue). However, everyone will look like fools if we end up winning 1-3 games in 2018.
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Since the meeting reportedly took place wit the entire team, we shouldn't have to wait too long to learn the tone and flavor of it.
From what I read about it, he's keeping everyone, which I don't necessarily object to at all. I think people need to be added (such as an OC for Hue). However, everyone will look like fools if we end up winning 1-3 games in 2018.
From what I read about it, he's keeping everyone, which I don't necessarily object to at all. I think people need to be added (such as an OC for Hue). However, everyone will look like fools if we end up winning 1-3 games in 2018.
If we win 3 games in '18 with everyone still in place, War will organize an "I Told U So" parade while declaring the season a total success.
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From what I read about it, he's keeping everyone, which I don't necessarily object to at all. I think people need to be added (such as an OC for Hue). However, everyone will look like fools if we end up winning 1-3 games in 2018.
If we win 3 games in '18 with everyone still in place, War will organize an "I Told U So" parade while declaring the season a total success.
If we win 3 games in '18 with everyone still in place, War will organize an "I Told U So" parade while declaring the season a total success.
i don't know, if anyone is alright with 3-13 in 2018, they must be delusional. If the point is to break the roster down and rebuild it to go from 5-11 seasons to 3-13 seasons then that's insanity.
I won't be happy unless we get at least 6 wins in 2018. If we get zero next year, and people are still defending Sashi and the process, i'll stop posting.
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You found a lamp, rubbed it and out I popped...... Rosen at #1 or Cousins + BPA at #1?
You live in a lamp? And I thought I'd heard of every SoCal lifestyle...
So the question is Rosen or Cousins plus Rosen?
... hummmm (<--- WARNING: Gets you a timeout from the "New Mobile Tavern"). A 29-yo, good QB with no track record of clutch success against top competition (isn't that right NOLA?), who I will have to pay top dollar to so long as he is a Brown or a young gun (will be 21 yr - 2 months come draft day) I can grow and grow a team around on the cheap for 5 years? Who do I want to play the likes of Wentz and Goff and Dak and Carr in the 2020's? Hummmmm...
I exaggerate (a little... just for your sake), but I honestly lean Rosen. Josh's physical tools are discernibly better. All the signs are there that he can at least rise to Kirk's game general level. I give Kirk the edge in controlled game fire.
Clearly your construct is around landing a solid starter/Franchise QB in FA and still have the #1 overall. My problem is that if not Rosen, then I do not know who I take at #1 overall. Barkley? Hell, no, not with Love possibly there with the HOU pick. Fitzpatrick (Bama, FS)? Tempting... Derwin? Is he playing better than he did early?
I think I want the kid, but someone, some non-QB prospect, might change my mind between now and April.
From what I read about it, he's keeping everyone, which I don't necessarily object to at all. I think people need to be added (such as an OC for Hue). However, everyone will look like fools if we end up winning 1-3 games in 2018.
YEA! Great answer....
If we win 3 games in '18 with everyone still in place, War will organize an "I Told U So" parade while declaring the season a total success.
"Total"? No... but progress, yes. Even you W/L followers should embrace your own metric.
But fear not, those three wins would likely come in the season's 2nd half... so that's a whole, added half a year to whine about "winless this" and "clueless that"?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Sorry Pollyanna. This must be the only point that's ever been repeated more than once on this board.
You're so blindly optimistic you make Po g sounds like Lewis Black.
WSS
Can you go ahead and list other facts about other teams while you're at it? I'm looking forward to such interesting information as "the Cowboys are from Texas." "The Eagles play in Philadelphia." "The Titans are 6-4." Boy, those are some real stimulating discussion-starters.
Can you go ahead and list other facts about other teams while you're at it? I'm looking forward to such interesting information as "the Cowboys are from Texas." "The Eagles play in Philadelphia." "The Titans are 6-4." Boy, those are some real stimulating discussion-starters.
Give it up....he owned your arse with that Lewis Black comment. Just admit defeat and live to fight another day.
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Instead of anal ytics and numerology, I'm all for Shamanology.
Go find a tribal Shaman in Africa, bring him over and put him in charge of the team. I mean what part of witch doctor for GM can go wrong?
Instead of anal ytics and numerology, I'm all for Shamanology.
Go find a tribal Shaman in Africa, bring him over and put him in charge of the team. I mean what part of witch doctor for GM can go wrong?
Can't be any worse.
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You found a lamp, rubbed it and out I popped...... Rosen at #1 or Cousins + BPA at #1?
Lamp has a different meaning in Californicate. You can figure it out.
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You found a lamp, rubbed it and out I popped...... Rosen at #1 or Cousins + BPA at #1?
You live in a lamp? And I thought I'd heard of every SoCal lifestyle...
So the question is Rosen or Cousins plus Rosen?
... hummmm (<--- WARNING: Gets you a timeout from the "New Mobile Tavern"). A 29-yo, good QB with no track record of clutch success against top competition (isn't that right NOLA?), who I will have to pay top dollar to so long as he is a Brown or a young gun (will be 21 yr - 2 months come draft day) I can grow and grow a team around on the cheap for 5 years? Who do I want to play the likes of Wentz and Goff and Dak and Carr in the 2020's? Hummmmm...
I exaggerate (a little... just for your sake), but I honestly lean Rosen. Josh's physical tools are discernibly better. All the signs are there that he can at least rise to Kirk's game general level. I give Kirk the edge in controlled game fire.
Clearly your construct is around landing a solid starter/Franchise QB in FA and still have the #1 overall. My problem is that if not Rosen, then I do not know who I take at #1 overall. Barkley? Hell, no, not with Love possibly there with the HOU pick. Fitzpatrick (Bama, FS)? Tempting... Derwin? Is he playing better than he did early?
I think I want the kid, but someone, some non-QB prospect, might change my mind between now and April.
From what I read about it, he's keeping everyone, which I don't necessarily object to at all. I think people need to be added (such as an OC for Hue). However, everyone will look like fools if we end up winning 1-3 games in 2018.
YEA! Great answer....
If we win 3 games in '18 with everyone still in place, War will organize an "I Told U So" parade while declaring the season a total success.
"Total"? No... but progress, yes. Even you W/L followers should embrace your own metric.
But fear not, those three wins would likely come in the season's 2nd half... so that's a whole, added half a year to whine about "winless this" and "clueless that"?
You live in a lamp? And I thought I'd heard of every SoCal lifestyle...
So the question is Rosen or Cousins plus Rosen?
... hummmm (<--- WARNING: Gets you a timeout from the "New Mobile Tavern"). A 29-yo, good QB with no track record of clutch success against top competition (isn't that right NOLA?), who I will have to pay top dollar to so long as he is a Brown or a young gun (will be 21 yr - 2 months come draft day) I can grow and grow a team around on the cheap for 5 years? Who do I want to play the likes of Wentz and Goff and Dak and Carr in the 2020's? Hummmmm...
I exaggerate (a little... just for your sake), but I honestly lean Rosen. Josh's physical tools are discernibly better. All the signs are there that he can at least rise to Kirk's game general level. I give Kirk the edge in controlled game fire.
Clearly your construct is around landing a solid starter/Franchise QB in FA and still have the #1 overall. My problem is that if not Rosen, then I do not know who I take at #1 overall. Barkley? Hell, no, not with Love possibly there with the HOU pick. Fitzpatrick (Bama, FS)? Tempting... Derwin? Is he playing better than he did early?
I think I want the kid, but someone, some non-QB prospect, might change my mind between now and April.
"Total"? No... but progress, yes. Even you W/L followers should embrace your own metric.
But fear not, those three wins would likely come in the season's 2nd half... so that's a whole, added half a year to whine about "winless this" and "clueless that"?
Yep, I like the proven vet QB plus a top prospect, vs another rookie QB prospect, even though I like Rosen too..... I'm guessing that has something to do with the Browns' draft track history at QB.
3 wins in year 3 after back to back 1 win seasons (God I can only hope we win a game this year) might technically be considered progress, but I'll liken that 'progress' to adding sugar to my bowl of fresh, steaming poop..... simply can't hide the fact it's poop.
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Instead of anal ytics and numerology, I'm all for Shamanology.
Go find a tribal Shaman in Africa, bring him over and put him in charge of the team. I mean what part of witch doctor for GM can go wrong?
Can't be any worse.
Can't be any worse.
It's Dr Mbogo Mbogo at ZUlu 854. He did fix Fester. We have a Fester that needs fixed.
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You found a lamp, rubbed it and out I popped...... Rosen at #1 or Cousins + BPA at #1?
You live in a lamp? And I thought I'd heard of every SoCal lifestyle...
So the question is Rosen or Cousins plus Rosen?
... hummmm (<--- WARNING: Gets you a timeout from the "New Mobile Tavern"). A 29-yo, good QB with no track record of clutch success against top competition (isn't that right NOLA?), who I will have to pay top dollar to so long as he is a Brown or a young gun (will be 21 yr - 2 months come draft day) I can grow and grow a team around on the cheap for 5 years? Who do I want to play the likes of Wentz and Goff and Dak and Carr in the 2020's? Hummmmm...
I exaggerate (a little... just for your sake), but I honestly lean Rosen. Josh's physical tools are discernibly better. All the signs are there that he can at least rise to Kirk's game general level. I give Kirk the edge in controlled game fire.
Clearly your construct is around landing a solid starter/Franchise QB in FA and still have the #1 overall. My problem is that if not Rosen, then I do not know who I take at #1 overall. Barkley? Hell, no, not with Love possibly there with the HOU pick. Fitzpatrick (Bama, FS)? Tempting... Derwin? Is he playing better than he did early?
I think I want the kid, but someone, some non-QB prospect, might change my mind between now and April.
From what I read about it, he's keeping everyone, which I don't necessarily object to at all. I think people need to be added (such as an OC for Hue). However, everyone will look like fools if we end up winning 1-3 games in 2018.
YEA! Great answer....
If we win 3 games in '18 with everyone still in place, War will organize an "I Told U So" parade while declaring the season a total success.
"Total"? No... but progress, yes. Even you W/L followers should embrace your own metric.
But fear not, those three wins would likely come in the season's 2nd half... so that's a whole, added half a year to whine about "winless this" and "clueless that"?
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From what I read about it, he's keeping everyone, which I don't necessarily object to at all. I think people need to be added (such as an OC for Hue). However, everyone will look like fools if we end up winning 1-3 games in 2018.
If we win 3 games in '18 with everyone still in place, War will organize an "I Told U So" parade while declaring the season a total success.
If we win 3 games in '18 with everyone still in place, War will organize an "I Told U So" parade while declaring the season a total success.
Obsession noted
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I think I'd rather add Cousins because he's actually had some success in the NFL. I guess I am just a battered Browns fan (I shudder to think about what that makes everyone else here), but I think you need a guy who's already been developed elsewhere because our fans run every game out of town that doesn't kill it in his first few games.
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I think I'd rather add Cousins because he's actually had some success in the NFL. I guess I am just a battered Browns fan (I shudder to think about what that makes everyone else here), but I think you need a guy who's already been developed elsewhere because our fans run every game out of town that doesn't kill it in his first few games.
I think I'd rather add Cousins because he's actually had some success in the NFL. I guess I am just a battered Browns fan (I shudder to think about what that makes everyone else here), but I think you need a guy who's already been developed elsewhere because our fans run every game out of town that doesn't kill it in his first few games.
Cousins would demand high money and I doubt our FO would budge. Plus he's pushing 30, and I think we're looking for a 21-24 year old that can play the position.
Needless to say, if we go into next season with Kessler, Hogan, and Kizer next year again only, please hand me a shotgun so I can blow my head off....
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If we win 3 games in '18 with everyone still in place, War will organize an "I Told U So" parade while declaring the season a total success.
i don't know, if anyone is alright with 3-13 in 2018, they must be delusional. If the point is to break the roster down and rebuild it to go from 5-11 seasons to 3-13 seasons then that's insanity.
I won't be happy unless we get at least 6 wins in 2018. If we get zero next year, and people are still defending Sashi and the process, i'll stop posting.
i don't know, if anyone is alright with 3-13 in 2018, they must be delusional. If the point is to break the roster down and rebuild it to go from 5-11 seasons to 3-13 seasons then that's insanity.
I won't be happy unless we get at least 6 wins in 2018. If we get zero next year, and people are still defending Sashi and the process, i'll stop posting.
If they go 1-31 they should ALL BE FIRED.
This stupid process didn’t work. 3 years of this garbage should be illegal
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I think I'd rather add Cousins because he's actually had some success in the NFL. I guess I am just a battered Browns fan (I shudder to think about what that makes everyone else here), but I think you need a guy who's already been developed elsewhere because our fans run every game out of town that doesn't kill it in his first few games.
Cousins would demand high money and I doubt our FO would budge. Plus he's pushing 30, and I think we're looking for a 21-24 year old that can play the position.
Needless to say, if we go into next season with Kessler, Hogan, and Kizer next year again only, please hand me a shotgun so I can blow my head off....
Cousins would demand high money and I doubt our FO would budge. Plus he's pushing 30, and I think we're looking for a 21-24 year old that can play the position.
Needless to say, if we go into next season with Kessler, Hogan, and Kizer next year again only, please hand me a shotgun so I can blow my head off....
Don’t waste the ammo on yourself.
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I guess the owners of the Browns weren't told that they should expect to lose all but a single game in the first two years of The Process? War should set 'em straight.......
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/11/jason_mccourty_says_haslams_ad.html
Who did expect this? Not me, but in retrospect when McC left for the Jets, I shoulda seen the possibility comin'... and so should have the Organization. Too much faith in Kessler... how could I fall for that?
But now that it's here... now that a second, consecutive #1 overall is a strong possibility with Josh Rosen waiting a "With the first pick" announcement, I am staying the course.
At least it appears the Haslam's are still on board... or at least I do not know what else to takeaway from this:
Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet
#Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam met with players this week to discuss rebuilding, while offering perspective & support during a winless season:
Since the meeting reportedly took place wit the entire team, we shouldn't have to wait too long to learn the tone and flavor of it.Who did expect this? Not me, but in retrospect when McC left for the Jets, I shoulda seen the possibility comin'... and so should have the Organization. Too much faith in Kessler... how could I fall for that?
But now that it's here... now that a second, consecutive #1 overall is a strong possibility with Josh Rosen waiting a "With the first pick" announcement, I am staying the course.
At least it appears the Haslam's are still on board... or at least I do not know what else to takeaway from this:
Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet
#Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam met with players this week to discuss rebuilding, while offering perspective & support during a winless season:
Since the meeting reportedly took place with the entire team, we shouldn't have to wait too long to learn the tone and flavor of it.Sounds like Jimmy is going to "stay the course". He doesn't have much choice after he married into "The Plan".
good question from #Browns- If you lose a game and nobody is there to see it does it still count as a loss?
Yep, I like the proven vet QB plus a top prospect, vs another rookie QB prospect, even though I like Rosen too..... I'm guessing that has something to do with the Browns' draft track history at QB.
3 wins in year 3 after back to back 1 win seasons (God I can only hope we win a game this year) might technically be considered progress, but I'll liken that 'progress' to adding sugar to my bowl of fresh, steaming poop..... simply can't hide the fact it's poop.
Still beat me to it- but Cousins isn't in the plans for all he mentioned, plus have a loyal Redskins fan I converse with on a regular basis- and his 0.02 is Cousins isn't worth anywhere near the kind of money he's going to demand.... He's already getting franchise qb cash, and I doubt he's going to be willing to take a pay cut.
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