Houston Astros...food for thought perhaps
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The Houston Astros just won their first World Series after recently suffering three straight 100+ loss seasons from 2011-2013 under GM Jeff Luhnow. Rather than fire him he was given a new contract in 2014 and three years later here they are.
I found a screenshot of his wiki page on twitter rather interesting....which will not doubt annoy some of you (most of whom can’t @ me for discussion rather they call me names buried in other threads, pathetic) as this isn’t baseball etc etc blah blah analytics doesn’t work. Despite vast amounts of data proving otherwise and every nfl organisation having an analytics department.
Anyhoo, here’s the passage I found interesting, especially the bottom paragraph.....get your pitchforks ready
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The Houston Astros just won their first World Series after recently suffering three straight 100+ loss seasons from 2011-2013 under GM Jeff Luhnow. Rather than fire him he was given a new contract in 2014 and three years later here they are.
I found a screenshot of his wiki page on twitter rather interesting....which will not doubt annoy some of you (most of whom can’t @ me for discussion rather they call me names buried in other threads, pathetic) as this isn’t baseball etc etc blah blah analytics doesn’t work. Despite vast amounts of data proving otherwise and every nfl organisation having an analytics department.
Anyhoo, here’s the passage I found interesting, especially the bottom paragraph.....get your pitchforks ready
The Houston Astros just won their first World Series after recently suffering three straight 100+ loss seasons from 2011-2013 under GM Jeff Luhnow. Rather than fire him he was given a new contract in 2014 and three years later here they are.
I found a screenshot of his wiki page on twitter rather interesting....which will not doubt annoy some of you (most of whom can’t @ me for discussion rather they call me names buried in other threads, pathetic) as this isn’t baseball etc etc blah blah analytics doesn’t work. Despite vast amounts of data proving otherwise and every nfl organisation having an analytics department.
Anyhoo, here’s the passage I found interesting, especially the bottom paragraph.....get your pitchforks ready
Altuve isn't a corey coleman. George Springer isn't a Peppers. Morton is more skilled then Njoku, but you can't compare baseball and football. Good for the Astros.
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Yep they alluded to it last night in talking about the 3 100 loss seasons in a row while accumulating a lot of young high draft choices. Big Papi in particular spoke of those highly drafted young kids who developed into the great players they thought and then they went and dropped in baseball's equivalent to a QB, Verlander.. But they also talked about the presence their old veteran on the team even though he wasn't used much in the playoffs-Carlos Beltran. Now how did we spell McCown?
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He also has a baseball background. We have a math professor running a football team. Maybe lumberjacks should pilot airliners too?
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Baseball =/= Football
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I am sure that GM also had some people in house who could ID talent. I don't think anyone has an issue with the idea of accumulating picks to acquire young talent. The IDing of the talent due to the lack of a good scouting dept is the problem. They got lots of swings and turned them into lots of misses.
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When people make the moneyball reference, I wonder if they’ve actually seen the movie. A good chunk of that film is dedicated to the fans and media pissing and moaning about how math doesn’t belong in sports. We’re right on track
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When people make the moneyball reference, I wonder if they’ve actually seen the movie. A good chunk of that film is dedicated to the fans and media pissing and moaning about how math doesn’t belong in sports. We’re right on track
When people make the moneyball reference, I wonder if they’ve actually seen the movie. A good chunk of that film is dedicated to the fans and media pissing and moaning about how math doesn’t belong in sports. We’re right on track
Math can help. But it can't account for human nature and gut instinct.
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I think that exact quote is in the movie...
I think that exact quote is in the movie...
Really? Never saw the movie. Did they say that having a math guy from Harvard run a football team is akin to a lumberjack piloting a 747 too? Lol
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I think that exact quote is in the movie...
Really? Never saw the movie. Did they say that having a math guy from Harvard run a football team is akin to a lumberjack piloting a 747 too? Lol
Really? Never saw the movie. Did they say that having a math guy from Harvard run a football team is akin to a lumberjack piloting a 747 too? Lol
You’ve totally seen the movie to be able to quote it word for word.
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Really? Never saw the movie. Did they say that having a math guy from Harvard run a football team is akin to a lumberjack piloting a 747 too? Lol
You’ve totally seen the movie to be able to quote it word for word.
You’ve totally seen the movie to be able to quote it word for word.
Nope, not really a movie guy. I have read where that line was spoken by Doug MacArthur early 1940s. Maybe the movie quoted him?
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I’m just goofin’ the movie says nothing about a lumberjack flying a 747
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I am sure that GM also had some people in house who could ID talent. I don't think anyone has an issue with the idea of accumulating picks to acquire young talent. The IDing of the talent due to the lack of a good scouting dept is the problem. They got lots of swings and turned them into lots of misses.
I am sure that GM also had some people in house who could ID talent. I don't think anyone has an issue with the idea of accumulating picks to acquire young talent. The IDing of the talent due to the lack of a good scouting dept is the problem. They got lots of swings and turned them into lots of misses.
Solution: let’s get a bunch of new talent IDers who we know will just jump at the chance to get fire in two years! Right?
Baseball =/= Football
You would’ve been one of the guys deriding moneyball when it was first come up with.
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He also has a baseball background. We have a math professor running a football team. Maybe lumberjacks should pilot airliners too?
He also has a baseball background. We have a math professor running a football team. Maybe lumberjacks should pilot airliners too?
I still say, if given the opportunity I can be the captain of a nuclear submarine.
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He also has a baseball background. We have a math professor running a football team. Maybe lumberjacks should pilot airliners too?
He also has a baseball background. We have a math professor running a football team. Maybe lumberjacks should pilot airliners too?
Some skills are transferable in certain managerial positions others are not. The more specific the tasks (like evaluating college to professional talent in a specific sport) the more specialized the managers must be.
Another example would be a specific computer skill or engineering requirement you can NOT just throw anyone in there and expect top notch results just because they might be book smart.
Time to get it right in Cleveland, Ohio.
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Don’t forget SI had a “meet your 2017 World Series champs” issue in 2014. They could do that for us with 2020 but none of you have the patience to see it through that far.
So instead, we can just pat ourselves on the back because we win 4 games/year. Sweet!
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Don’t forget SI had a “meet your 2017 World Series champs” issue in 2014. They could do that for us with 2020 but none of you have the patience to see it through that far.
So instead, we can just pat ourselves on the back because we win 4 games/year. Sweet!
So instead, we can just pat ourselves on the back because we win 4 games/year. Sweet!
4 games a year? When will be that good again?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Don’t forget SI had a “meet your 2017 World Series champs” issue in 2014. They could do that for us with 2020 but none of you have the patience to see it through that far.
So instead, we can just pat ourselves on the back because we win 4 games/year. Sweet!
Don’t forget SI had a “meet your 2017 World Series champs” issue in 2014. They could do that for us with 2020 but none of you have the patience to see it through that far.
So instead, we can just pat ourselves on the back because we win 4 games/year. Sweet!
Because theres no fucking way in hell this team is even a playoff contender in 2020 the way things are going. Improvement and building is one thing. From where I sit. This team isn't any better than last years team, not significantly enough to let these assclowns continue to make decisions. They don't make good decisions. They pass on playmakers in order to get more future draft picks.
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Don’t forget SI had a “meet your 2017 World Series champs” issue in 2014. They could do that for us with 2020 but none of you have the patience to see it through that far.
So instead, we can just pat ourselves on the back because we win 4 games/year. Sweet!
Because theres no fucking way in hell this team is even a playoff contender in 2020 the way things are going. Improvement and building is one thing. From where I sit. This team isn't any better than last years team, not significantly enough to let these assclowns continue to make decisions. They don't make good decisions. They pass on playmakers in order to get more future draft picks.
Because theres no Shmucking way in hell this team is even a playoff contender in 2020 the way things are going. Improvement and building is one thing. From where I sit. This team isn't any better than last years team, not significantly enough to let these assclowns continue to make decisions. They don't make good decisions. They pass on playmakers in order to get more future draft picks.
Even if you were right about that, which you’re not whatsoever, there is zero evidence that scrapping everything would produce better results.
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