Kubiak
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He wants to the NFL as an OC.... should Browns consider?
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He wants to the NFL as an OC.... should Browns consider?
Absolutely if he's willing to come here. Hue needs help on game planning and game day decisions. Kubiac is also excellent working with QBs in his offense. Many people do not understand his role as a player/unpaid QB coach on the sidelines with Elway to the Superbowls. Elway got it.
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He wants to the NFL as an OC.... should Browns consider?
Absolutely if he's willing to come here. Hue needs help on game planning and game day decisions. Kubiac is also excellent working with QBs in his offense. Many people do not understand his role as a player/unpaid QB coach on the sidelines with Elway to the Superbowls. Elway got it.
Absolutely if he's willing to come here. Hue needs help on game planning and game day decisions. Kubiac is also excellent working with QBs in his offense.
yeah he's the man. very smart offensive mind. Idk if Hue would agree to give up some power though.
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Absolutely if he's willing to come here. Hue needs help on game planning and game day decisions. Kubiac is also excellent working with QBs in his offense.
yeah he's the man. very smart offensive mind. Idk if Hue would agree to give up some power though.
yeah he's the man. very smart offensive mind. Idk if Hue would agree to give up some power though.
If it saves his job his tune would change quickly.
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yeah he's the man. very smart offensive mind. Idk if Hue would agree to give up some power though.
If it saves his job his tune would change quickly.
If it saves his job his tune would change quickly.
True that AG, he's trying anything possible to save his butt now. Sad thing is everything is not his fault. With more talent and an offensive coordinator we'd be much better. Or maybe Hue should of just been OC all along and we needed a guy like Kubiak to coach us.....
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Sign him now, please. Anyway, he retired due to health issues, how does going to the Browns help anyone's health?
Sign him now, please. Anyway, he retired due to health issues, how does going to the Browns help anyone's health?
It doesn't but I guess the thought would be that being an OC or just an offense consultant as opposed to head coach would be easier on his health. Its something similiar that I read about McVey in LA. He focuses solely on the offense and the playcalling. He has Wade Phillips working on the defense, hes got John Fassell coaching special teams and in charge of timeouts and clock management. This is what Hue needs. Someone like Kubiak could help with the game plan during the week and then just sit in the booth and handle clock management and timeouts and challenges and Hue just focuses on the play calling and working with Kizer when the defense is on the field. Leave Williams alone to run the defense.
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He wants to the NFL as an OC.... should Browns consider?
As OC...or as HC?
Only question about him is his health. Didn't he have some heart issues? He may not want the stress that comes with an HC job.
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As OC...or as HC?
Only question about him is his health. Didn't he have some heart issues? He may not want the stress that comes with an HC job.
Our guess is as OC.
EDIT: Here's the source https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/former-broncos-head-coach-gary-kubiak-open-to-a-return-as-an-offensive-coordinator/
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If it saves his job his tune would change quickly.
True that AG, he's trying anything possible to save his butt now. Sad thing is everything is not his fault. With more talent and an offensive coordinator we'd be much better. Or maybe Hue should of just been OC all along and we needed a guy like Kubiak to coach us.....
True that AG, he's trying anything possible to save his butt now. Sad thing is everything is not his fault. With more talent and an offensive coordinator we'd be much better. Or maybe Hue should of just been OC all along and we needed a guy like Kubiak to coach us.....
"Everything is not his fault". True statement. But a high enough percentage of "things" IS his fault.....and that is why we question him. On his poor play calling, poor clock/game management; failure to field a disciplined team; failure to focus properly...he is often distracted it seems.
It is why, as far as I am concerned, he is on tenuous ground.
I am also of the opinion that his poor coaching decisions/maneuvers have likely cost the Browns 3 wins this year.
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'The rigors of head coaching and the stress and strain from being the daily face of the franchise are not appealing to him at this point, but the opportunity to work with the right quarterback and help an offense for a contending team would have allure, the sources maintain.'
Well, there go all our hopes...
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'The rigors of head coaching and the stress and strain from being the daily face of the franchise are not appealing to him at this point, but the opportunity to work with the right quarterback and help an offense for a contending team would have allure, the sources maintain.'
Well, there go all our hopes...
'The rigors of head coaching and the stress and strain from being the daily face of the franchise are not appealing to him at this point, but the opportunity to work with the right quarterback and help an offense for a contending team would have allure, the sources maintain.'
Well, there go all our hopes...
Ah, but he is an Aggie and so is Garrett. And he worked with the other great Aggie defender Von Miller in Denver as his HC. Never underestimate those factors as a part of his decision if asked to come to Cleveland.
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'The rigors of head coaching and the stress and strain from being the daily face of the franchise are not appealing to him at this point, but the opportunity to work with the right quarterback and help an offense for a contending team would have allure, the sources maintain.'
Well, there go all our hopes...
Ah, but he is an Aggie and so is Garrett. And he worked with the other great Aggie defender Von Miller in Denver as his HC. Never underestimate those factors as a part of his decision if asked to come to Cleveland.
Ah, but he is an Aggie and so is Garrett. And he worked with the other great Aggie defender Von Miller in Denver as his HC. Never underestimate those factors as a part of his decision if asked to come to Cleveland.
So? I went to Cleveland State. So did Manute Bol. That doesn't make me a skinny 7'5" African.
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Ah, but he is an Aggie and so is Garrett. And he worked with the other great Aggie defender Von Miller in Denver as his HC. Never underestimate those factors as a part of his decision if asked to come to Cleveland.
So? I went to Cleveland State. So did Manute Bol. That doesn't make me a skinny 7'5" African.
So? I went to Cleveland State. So did Manute Bol. That doesn't make me a skinny 7'5" African.
If Von asked Kubiac to go to Cleveland to help out his good buddy Myles Garrett, he just might do it after sitting down and seeing what the chances were with a young team that lacks an effective QB and OC. Especially with JG and Coleman coming back with all those high draft choices coming up. That might also tempt a really good QB to come out early.
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oh my flippin god. what? hue would never give up OC or QB decisions.........i'm sure he'd quit or (per contract) bleed the browns for another 3 years.
Shmuck kubiak and anyone ever associated with the broncos.
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So? I went to Cleveland State. So did Manute Bol. That doesn't make me a skinny 7'5" African.
If Von asked Kubiac to go to Cleveland to help out his good buddy Myles Garrett, he just might do it after sitting down and seeing what the chances were with a young team that lacks an effective QB and OC. Especially with JG and Coleman coming back with all those high draft choices coming up. That might also tempt a really good QB to come out early.
If Von asked Kubiac to go to Cleveland to help out his good buddy Myles Garrett, he just might do it after sitting down and seeing what the chances were with a young team that lacks an effective QB and OC. Especially with JG and Coleman coming back with all those high draft choices coming up. That might also tempt a really good QB to come out early.
A. Why would Von ask someone to go help out another team in the AFC? B. What makes you think Garrett and Miller are "good buddies"...just because they attended the same college? C. What makes you think that Hue Jackson wants any part of having an OC. I mean, I think he needs it...but he thinks that only he can run the offense that he has designed (though it seems like a troglodyte could probably do it just as badly)
This sort of thing.....refusing to hire on an OC etc. at the GM or owners demands...has gotten more than a few HC's fired....including a few Brown's HCs. And Hue just may be too arrogant and proud to admit that he needs help.
Fair to say?
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Ah, but he is an Aggie and so is Garrett. And he worked with the other great Aggie defender Von Miller in Denver as his HC. Never underestimate those factors as a part of his decision if asked to come to Cleveland.
So? I went to Cleveland State. So did Manute Bol. That doesn't make me a skinny 7'5" African.
So? I went to Cleveland State. So did Manute Bol. That doesn't make me a skinny 7'5" African.
Manute Bol was the GOAT Center of all time
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Did Sashi hire Hue, or did Haslam do it? Because if Haslam did, I don't know how blind you can be to not let anyone join your staff if your offense is not working, independently to the talent it has. If Sashi did, he should put someone there for Hue's own good.
If Hue loses this job he would better forget getting another shot as HC in the NFL.
He wasn't given a good team, OK, offense is the worst and he precisely is running it, OK. But you have to work with the tools you've been given. If your wide receivers suck, adapt the system so the tight ends and backs get more involved. Head coaches complain to the FO when they don't get what they don't want, but coordinators have to make it work at any cost. That's why an OC-HQ combination doesn't work that often. The best coach of all time has always had both OC and DC.
Hiring an OC was not in the Process, but any process which is not flexible is sentenced to death.
And for Kubiak, the only attractive thing that I would use to bring him to the Browns would be that no matter how the story ends, he has more to win. It won't affect him if he fails as OC, because well, the team already sucked. And if for some reason everything works out, he can be considered a genius. I would use that and money, lol.
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