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  • PoeticG PoeticGP Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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    This week we are back healthy and ready to go and get a victory. Who starts at QB now that Hogan's ribs have healed?

    Kizer is struggling with passes beyond 5 yards and he also has thrown for one less TD than Hogan has. 

    With the WR group about to go super sayian I think it's best if we get Hogan going early. I feel that by week 13 the plug will have been pulled from Kizer anyway so we might as well start getting Hogan warmed up and ready to blow the top off the Chargers! 

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      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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      Wow.

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        I voted Kizer and a big fat no....... 0-16 with a possible 1-15 due to a surprise win in December. 

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          NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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          I hope we could get 4 W, but in the other thread I analyzed the rest of the schedule and being optimist I got 5-6 winnable games, which is already a huge leap. 

          Winning 66% of those? I don't believe it if there isn't a major turnaround of events. 

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            Flip coins on the QBs.

            No to the second question.

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              This week we are back healthy and ready to go and get a victory. Who starts at QB now that Hogan's ribs have healed?

              Kizer is struggling with passes beyond 5 yards and he also has thrown for one less TD than Hogan has. 

              With the WR group about to go super sayian I think it's best if we get Hogan going early. I feel that by week 13 the plug will have been pulled from Kizer anyway so we might as well start getting Hogan warmed up and ready to blow the top off the Chargers! 

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              hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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              @poeticg said:

              This week we are back healthy and ready to go and get a victory. Who starts at QB now that Hogan's ribs have healed?

              Kizer is struggling with passes beyond 5 yards and he also has thrown for one less TD than Hogan has. 

              With the WR group about to go super sayian I think it's best if we get Hogan going early. I feel that by week 13 the plug will have been pulled from Kizer anyway so we might as well start getting Hogan warmed up and ready to blow the top off the Chargers! 

              Po, with the aborted trade for McCarron, Kizer's plug has already been pulled. But you know- Deshone has that great arm and all.....

              Gordon & Coleman might win us a game or two....  

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                @poeticg said:

                This week we are back healthy and ready to go and get a victory. Who starts at QB now that Hogan's ribs have healed?

                Kizer is struggling with passes beyond 5 yards and he also has thrown for one less TD than Hogan has. 

                With the WR group about to go super sayian I think it's best if we get Hogan going early. I feel that by week 13 the plug will have been pulled from Kizer anyway so we might as well start getting Hogan warmed up and ready to blow the top off the Chargers! 

                Po, with the aborted trade for McCarron, Kizer's plug has already been pulled. But you know- Deshone has that great arm and all.....

                Gordon & Coleman might win us a game or two....  

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                @hoorta said:

                Gordon & Coleman might win us a game or two....  

                Which is why the last 5 games are the ones to really gauge by. Next 3 not so much other than seeing how the D functions. Not sure how many with limited practice will play this week.

                http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-vs-Lions-injury-report---118/2ae6efe4-7153-4010-afec-76edeeffdd54

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                  Gordon & Coleman might win us a game or two....  

                  Which is why the last 5 games are the ones to really gauge by. Next 3 not so much other than seeing how the D functions. Not sure how many with limited practice will play this week.

                  http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-vs-Lions-injury-report---118/2ae6efe4-7153-4010-afec-76edeeffdd54

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                  @texasag1969 said:

                  Which is why the last 5 games are the ones to really gauge by. Next 3 not so much other than seeing how the D functions. Not sure how many with limited practice will play this week.

                  http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-vs-Lions-injury-report---118/2ae6efe4-7153-4010-afec-76edeeffdd54

                  I don't expect much from these next two games. 

                  And having most of the secondary on the injury report doesn't help me with this Sunday's game.

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                    Like last season, I'll be happy with 1 win at this point, just so the Browns don't go down in infamy.

                    Will be interesting to see Gordon and Coleman back on the field, though.

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                      Like last season, I'll be happy with 1 win at this point, just so the Browns don't go down in infamy.

                      Will be interesting to see Gordon and Coleman back on the field, though.

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                      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      Like last season, I'll be happy with 1 win at this point, just so the Browns don't go down in infamy.

                      Will be interesting to see Gordon and Coleman back on the field, though.

                      Oh yeah flash Gordon back 😆 well it will give the announcers and sports world something else to discuss about Cleveland Browns football besides the QB Derby, 0-fer ever and who they will pick again.

                      America is this a great country or what! 

                      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        It is ignorant to keep asking who should start at QB for this team...for a variety of reasons:  A. A revolving door at QB is a sure fire way to have a team totally have no consistency.  B. It don't matter which of these suckotash QB starts and C. Because it is just ignorant.

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                          It is ignorant to keep asking who should start at QB for this team...for a variety of reasons:  A. A revolving door at QB is a sure fire way to have a team totally have no consistency.  B. It don't matter which of these suckotash QB starts and C. Because it is just ignorant.

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                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                          @the-gipper said:

                          It is ignorant to keep asking who should start at QB for this team...for a variety of reasons:  A. A revolving door at QB is a sure fire way to have a team totally have no consistency.  B. It don't matter which of these suckotash QB starts and C. Because it is just ignorant.

                          True. This is a selfinflicted  historical mess of epic proportions that rivals the original Tampa Bay fiasco (slightly different rules back then). No current starting QB today in the NFL could just step in and turn this around quickly it will take several successful drafts and good FA picks to do that......not a bunch of newbie QBs with no decent WRs to make a difference. 

                          GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                            Wow, 14 people voted for Kizer, must be gluttons for punishment. Kizer is really bad, how bad exactly? The absolute worst QB in the NFL. Those wanting another #1 overall are clamoring for Kizer to start. The ones that actually want to win are seeing what is really going on here. As I said before, Hogan should have the chance to redeem himself in another start. He's going to be a FA at the end of the year and we need to know what we have in him. Kessler and Kizer have combined for 15 starts and have won ZERO games over that time. Hogan has one start, and not a single one of us knows what he's truly capable of. Kizer is not getting better, he's just climbing deeper into a hole and playing scared. They are going to run, run, run and Kizer is going to throw shorter and shorter safer passes, he nearly had 3 balls picked the last time he played. You can belittle Hogan if you want, just to spite me but that doesn't mean he still isn't the best option NOW and going forward. Nearly everyone was on board with starting Hogan over Kizer against the Texans... one bad game(quarter) is not a death sentence in the NFL, it takes consistent lack of talent and poor decision making- kinda like what we've seen from Kizer all season. 😎

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                              Hogan has more TDs than Kizer has, period. If that isn't a wake up call I guess you plan on sleeping in. 

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                                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                When Hogan isn't brought back by the Browns for the 2018 season, who is doing the first shift of PoG's suicide watch?

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                                  When Hogan isn't brought back by the Browns for the 2018 season, who is doing the first shift of PoG's suicide watch?

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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  When Hogan isn't brought back by the Browns for the 2018 season, who is doing the first shift of PoG's suicide watch?

                                  Him not being brought back isn't even an option. Don't you know he's the future of this franchise?

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    When Hogan isn't brought back by the Browns for the 2018 season, who is doing the first shift of PoG's suicide watch?

                                    Him not being brought back isn't even an option. Don't you know he's the future of this franchise?

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                                    @the-user-from-cleveland said:

                                    Him not being brought back isn't even an option. Don't you know he's the future of this franchise?

                                    The future of the franchise?

                                    I heard that the stadium is being renamed for him, and in front of it will be a 5 story statue of his noodle arm.

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                                      Wow, 14 people voted for Kizer, must be gluttons for punishment. Kizer is really bad, how bad exactly? The absolute worst QB in the NFL. Those wanting another #1 overall are clamoring for Kizer to start. The ones that actually want to win are seeing what is really going on here. As I said before, Hogan should have the chance to redeem himself in another start. He's going to be a FA at the end of the year and we need to know what we have in him. Kessler and Kizer have combined for 15 starts and have won ZERO games over that time. Hogan has one start, and not a single one of us knows what he's truly capable of. Kizer is not getting better, he's just climbing deeper into a hole and playing scared. They are going to run, run, run and Kizer is going to throw shorter and shorter safer passes, he nearly had 3 balls picked the last time he played. You can belittle Hogan if you want, just to spite me but that doesn't mean he still isn't the best option NOW and going forward. Nearly everyone was on board with starting Hogan over Kizer against the Texans... one bad game(quarter) is not a death sentence in the NFL, it takes consistent lack of talent and poor decision making- kinda like what we've seen from Kizer all season. 😎

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                                      @poeticg said:

                                      Wow, 14 people voted for Kizer, must be gluttons for punishment. Kizer is really bad, how bad exactly? The absolute worst QB in the NFL......

                                      I want Kizer because he has to prove he is not the QB of the future, just as much as he is the QB of the future...... Either way, the Browns have to know so they can open the vault for Cousins, or God forbid, draft another QB next year.

                                      We're going 0-16 or 1-15 no matter which QB starts..... 

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                                        Wow, 14 people voted for Kizer, must be gluttons for punishment. Kizer is really bad, how bad exactly? The absolute worst QB in the NFL. Those wanting another #1 overall are clamoring for Kizer to start. The ones that actually want to win are seeing what is really going on here. As I said before, Hogan should have the chance to redeem himself in another start. He's going to be a FA at the end of the year and we need to know what we have in him. Kessler and Kizer have combined for 15 starts and have won ZERO games over that time. Hogan has one start, and not a single one of us knows what he's truly capable of. Kizer is not getting better, he's just climbing deeper into a hole and playing scared. They are going to run, run, run and Kizer is going to throw shorter and shorter safer passes, he nearly had 3 balls picked the last time he played. You can belittle Hogan if you want, just to spite me but that doesn't mean he still isn't the best option NOW and going forward. Nearly everyone was on board with starting Hogan over Kizer against the Texans... one bad game(quarter) is not a death sentence in the NFL, it takes consistent lack of talent and poor decision making- kinda like what we've seen from Kizer all season. 😎

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                                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                        @poeticg said:

                                        Wow, 14 people voted for Kizer, must be gluttons for punishment. Kizer is really bad, how bad exactly? The absolute worst QB in the NFL. Those wanting another #1 overall are clamoring for Kizer to start. The ones that actually want to win are seeing what is really going on here. As I said before, Hogan should have the chance to redeem himself in another start. He's going to be a FA at the end of the year and we need to know what we have in him. Kessler and Kizer have combined for 15 starts and have won ZERO games over that time. Hogan has one start, and not a single one of us knows what he's truly capable of. Kizer is not getting better, he's just climbing deeper into a hole and playing scared. They are going to run, run, run and Kizer is going to throw shorter and shorter safer passes, he nearly had 3 balls picked the last time he played. You can belittle Hogan if you want, just to spite me but that doesn't mean he still isn't the best option NOW and going forward. Nearly everyone was on board with starting Hogan over Kizer against the Texans... one bad game(quarter) is not a death sentence in the NFL, it takes consistent lack of talent and poor decision making- kinda like what we've seen from Kizer all season. 😎

                                        PO Kizer is going to get at least 4 more games to see if in the unlikely event he can improve.  FWIW, I didn't want Deshone before the draft, and he's showing the world why my opinion is probably correct. Hue's probably said it a dozen times- he's in the business of winning games. LOL, if the McCarron trade had gone through- (I'm glad it didn't) you can about bet Hogan would have been cut.

                                        Regardless I doubt Hogan will be on the roster 2018 because we're for sure drafting the highest rated QB with our first pick.  

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                                          Hoorta, I'm with you on the McCarron trade, I'm also glad it didn't work out. But the fact that they even tried is scary. 

                                          I guess Kessler is the backup again... smh, I thought Hogan had proved himself and earned more of an opportunity. It's whatever though. It's just not his time yet. 

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