Rumors. Harbaugh, others to Browns??

Clevfan4life

I think pettines interviewing with the redskins as DC

Westside Steve

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/14/talk-of-a-jon-gruden-return-heats-up-in-tampa/

Did somebody say Gruden?

WSS

The Gipper

@westside-steve said:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/14/talk-of-a-jon-gruden-return-heats-up-in-tampa/

Did somebody say Gruden?

WSS

No, nobody cursed.

Errr...wait a minute....I thought that was a curse worse.

Gruden you.

Up your Gruden.

I Grudened my pants.

Suck my Gruden.

You Son of a Gruden.

That's a bunch of Gruden

You mothergruden grudenhole you.

Kiss my Gruden.

Gruden you and the horse you came in on.

flyingfooldoug

There's a gruden in the punch bowl!

Orion

@the-gipper said:

Precisely. And prestige. Again....there are only 32 of those jobs.

31. And if ya can't get one of those then ya wait 'til next year....rather than go to football's Siberia.

Canton Dawg

@hoorta said:

Yup, we're still paying him. What a life.

And as of last summer, still living in Westlake.

BaconHound

@jcam222 said:

Competitive guys with huge egos want to show they are IT. Imagine if you are THE coach who turns it around for the Browns. You are a legend who can write your own ticket. Add in a text n of young talent and draft picks, why wouldn't you is a better question.

We've been saying this since 1999 and we've got....

11	Chris Palmer*	1999–2000	32	5	27	.156	—	—	—	—	^[24]
12	Butch Davis*	2001–2004	58	24	34	.414	1	0	1	.000	^[25]
13	Terry Robiskie	2004	6	1	5	.167	—	—	—	—	^[26]
14	Romeo Crennel	2005–2008	64	24	40	.375	—	—	—	—	^[27]
15	Eric Mangini	2009–2010	32	10	22	.313	—	—	—	—	^[28]
16	Pat Shurmur	2011–2012	32	9	23	.281	—	—	—	—	^[29]
17	Rob Chudzinski*	2013	16	4	12	.250	—	—	—	—	^[30]
18	Mike Pettine*	2014–2015	32	10	22	.313	—	—	—	—	^[31]
19	Hue Jackson	2016–present	24	1	23	.042	—	—	—

BaconHound

@boo-fagley said:

A team loaded with untapped talent, a rabid NFL city and fanbase, the draft board set up for success if you know what youre doing.

Yeah, why.

I'll hit you with the awesome names recruited to the NFL city with a rabid fanbase

11	Chris Palmer*	1999–2000	32	5	27	.156	—	—	—	—	^[24]
12	Butch Davis*	2001–2004	58	24	34	.414	1	0	1	.000	^[25]
13	Terry Robiskie	2004	6	1	5	.167	—	—	—	—	^[26]
14	Romeo Crennel	2005–2008	64	24	40	.375	—	—	—	—	^[27]
15	Eric Mangini	2009–2010	32	10	22	.313	—	—	—	—	^[28]
16	Pat Shurmur	2011–2012	32	9	23	.281	—	—	—	—	^[29]
17	Rob Chudzinski*	2013	16	4	12	.250	—	—	—	—	^[30]
18	Mike Pettine*	2014–2015	32	10	22	.313	—	—	—	—	^[31]
19	Hue Jackson	2016–present	24	1	23	.042	—	—	—

BaconHound

Once again the team stinks and everyone is convinced it's not that the talent is missing it's the coaches fault.

wargograw

@orion said:

31. And if ya can't get one of those then ya wait 'til next year....rather than go to football's Siberia.

Egggggsactly.

Mark O

@wargograw said:

Egggggsactly.

Why is that? You think that because it's the Browns that they could never get the highly sought after candidate?

BaconHound

@boo-fagley said:

Still doesnt change the fact that the city is a football town.

If Belichick looked at the cast of misfits who coached the Patriots before him, he would have turned around at the state line and gone home. The Browns are due for something good.

You mean Pete Carroll and Bill Parcells?

You might want to delete this nonsense

Orion

@mark-o said:

Why is that? You think that because it's the Browns that they could never get the highly sought after candidate?

umm...in a word...YES

Have you not seen what's been going on around here since Jimmuh took over? The man fired the coach and FO when he got here. Then he fired the new coach & FO the very next year. Two more years and fired another coach & GM. And now he's got the Harvard Think Tank making all of the decisions...and they've made the team incapable of winning a single game while supplying OTHER teams with their franchise QB's. And we JUST recently had the coach's daughter and the owner's wife blasting the FO. - WTF - Who in their right mind would wanna come here?

How 'bout this? If a coach came out and said, "I want to coach the Cleveland Browns"....I wouldn't hire him, because he'd have to be phucked in the head!

Ghoolie

@the-gipper said:

Or Gruden? You never know:

https://247sports.com/college/tennessee/Article/ESPN-analyst-Jon-Gruden-on-returning-to-coaching-You-never-know-110265673

This says he may be a candidate for the newly opened Univ. of Tennessee job.

But he is a Sandusky native? Come home?

Fauhk Gruden. He is more boring than a toilet brush.

Mark O

@orion said:

umm...in a word...YES

Have you not seen what's been going on around here since Jimmuh took over? The man fired the coach and FO when he got here. Then he fired the new coach & FO the very next year. Two more years and fired another coach & GM. And now he's got the Harvard Think Tank making all of the decisions...and they've made the team incapable of winning a single game while supplying OTHER teams with their franchise QB's. And we JUST recently had the coach's daughter and the owner's wife blasting the FO. - WTF - Who in their right mind would wanna come here?

How 'bout this? If a coach came out and said, "I want to coach the Cleveland Browns"....I wouldn't hire him, because he'd have to be phucked in the head!

You do realize however that the guy coaching the Browns was considered the hot and highly sought after candidate right? He was the guy that was interviewing in other places and he choose the Browns. The same Browns were recognized as getting the best of the new coaching hires (i've already posted the links in another thread so i'm not looking it up again), he was the guy...the man...the guy that was being talked about all throughout the end of the 2015 season as the guy that would be a HC the next season and he came here. So.....I guess the point would be that the Browns have already gotten that guy once, I don't think it has turned out well and he should be replaced, so there's no reason to think they can't get the next great NFL head coach to come to Cleveland. We don't know who that guy is...and we won't know till whoever it is comes here and starts winning games.

Orion

@mark-o said:

You do realize however

Yes, I do. And he can't do squat with what the Harvard Think Tank lets him have. And when / if his butt gets shown the door at season's end HIS name will be mud just like everyone else that coached under Haslam.

Mark O

@orion said:

Yes, I do. And he can't do squat with what the Harvard Think Tank lets him have. And when / if his butt gets shown the door at season's end HIS name will be mud just like everyone else that coached under Haslam.

You're contradicting yourself...you said the Browns can't get the highly sought after candidate and then agree with me when I tell you we already got that guy once. So which is it? Can the Browns get the highly sought after candidate or not? I'd say they certainly can....money plus the fact that it's 1 of 32 of these jobs in the world will make a young hot coordinator ready to take that next step to be a head coach. If they don't want the challenge or whatever of working in Cleveland..then fuck em...they aren't the guy for the challenge anyways.

SD_Tom

Not tired enough of drafting missagain players that never pan out? Now it's their coaches too?

(only half kidding)

Dawgs89

@clevfan4life said:

jesus Christ.

Not sure if even Jesus would want to coach this bunch.

mjp28

@hoorta said:

They'll have to pay him Belichick money Gip. College coaches get paid way better than NFL coaches. No one knows what Bill actually makes, but Sean Payton was getting $8 million. Nick Saban makes $11.5 at Alabama. Plus top college guys have damn near lifetime job security.

Gruden isn't coming. Tressel isn't coming. I doubt Harbaugh is.

Harbaugh (about $9M) makes more than BB now and it's not always about money (in their neighborhood), more ego, control etc. Plus Gruden probably no, Tressel no.

I think these numbers are pretty current:

Pete Carroll	Seattle Seahawks	$8,000,000
Sean Payton	New Orleans Saints	$8,000,000
Bill Belichick	New England Patriots	$7,500,000
Andy Reid	Kansas City Chiefs	$7,500,000
John Harbaugh	Baltimore Ravens	$7,000,000
Mike Tomlin	Pittsburgh Steelers	$7,000,000
Mike McCarthy	Green Bay Packers	$6,000,000
Jason Garrett	Dallas Cowboys	$6,000,000
Bruce Arians	Arizona Cardinals	$6,000,000
Jay Gruden	Washington Redskins	$5,000,000
Bill O’Brien	Houston Texans	$5,000,000
Chuck Pagano	Indianapolis Colts	$4,500,000
Dan Quinn	Atlanta Falcons	$4,500,000
Marvin Lewis	Cincinnati Bengals	$4,500,000
John Fox	Chicago Bears	$4,250,000
Mike Zimmer	Minnesota Vikings	$4,000,000
Ron Rivera	Carolina Panthers	$4,000,000
Todd Bowles	New York Jets	$4,000,000
Jim Caldwell	Detroit Lions	$4,000,000
Jack Del Rio	Oakland Raiders	$3,500,000