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Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam knew about sales scheme: former Pilot exec

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  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    https://sports.yahoo.com/cleveland-browns-owner-jimmy-haslam-191700615.html?src=rss

    I've been saying for years, "Of course he knew about it.  He probably TAUGHT it.".  - I mean really, if he DIDN'T know about what was going on right under his nose he'd have to be about the dumbest company owner ever.  No?

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    jimmy better hope and prey they believe he is that stupid or it's bye bye and good riddance see ya hope you enjoyed your millions enjoy all those bars and no drinks

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    When the FBI opens an investigation into you or your company, you are in a world of Sheet.

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    I've gotta admit....I'm incredibly surprised that he's been shielded from this for all of this time.  I was ALMOST about to believe that maybe he WAS the dumbest company owner ever.

    The thing is, he was quite involved with the Browns.  It would seem like he'd just HAVE to have his hands involved in everything.  

    ...and frankly, he's always struck me as the conniving sort.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    I wouldn't be surprised if he skates on this.

    You want to know why Bernie Madoff did serious time? Because he was stupid enough to rip off rich people.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    sounds to me like he wants a plea deal and is willing to dump on Haslam. Haslam was plenty successful and rich enough

    without resorting to the dumb stuff.

  • sounds to me like he wants a plea deal and is willing to dump on Haslam. Haslam was plenty successful and rich enough

    without resorting to the dumb stuff.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    sounds to me like he wants a plea deal and is willing to dump on Haslam. Haslam was plenty successful and rich enough

    without resorting to the dumb stuff.

    Never underestimate human greed though Cal.  Remember- Haslam didn't build Pilot from scratch, he inherited it. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    sounds to me like he wants a plea deal and is willing to dump on Haslam. Haslam was plenty successful and rich enough

    without resorting to the dumb stuff.

    Never underestimate human greed though Cal.  Remember- Haslam didn't build Pilot from scratch, he inherited it. 

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Never underestimate human greed though Cal.  Remember- Haslam didn't build Pilot from scratch, he inherited it. 

    Right on. And then he thought that all those dollar bills magically turned into brain cells. 

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by flyingfooldoug
    #9

    So it turns out that Freeman  is on tape saying that haslam loved the scam to rip off truckers out of their earned rebates. And here I was thinking that he is all innocent of crime but guilty of being a sucker. So now my first thoughts are like.... I wonder what Jimmah thinks of BBC? And, Do they serve Papa John's Pizza in a federal prison?

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    If it's true that our beloved Browns owner is guilty of being a theif, would the NFL find him too immoral to own a NFL team? Forced sale? That could mean an ownership group including Bernie Kosar and some other Ohio guys.  Football people that know the game. Not  a bunch of crooks. The analytics are showing analprobes for jimmah and competent ownership for the Browns! He can take his numerology bullcrap and shove it where the sun don't shine...anally.

  • https://sports.yahoo.com/cleveland-browns-owner-jimmy-haslam-191700615.html?src=rss

    I've been saying for years, "Of course he knew about it.  He probably TAUGHT it.".  - I mean really, if he DIDN'T know about what was going on right under his nose he'd have to be about the dumbest company owner ever.  No?

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/cleveland-browns-owner-jimmy-haslam-191700615.html?src=rss

    I've been saying for years, "Of course he knew about it.  He probably TAUGHT it.".  - I mean really, if he DIDN'T know about what was going on right under his nose he'd have to be about the dumbest company owner ever.  No?

    I was on the dumbest ever side. But it turns out he's a thief. Will the NFL force him to sell?  Will Buffett get stiffed in all this?  Selling flying J to him makes more sense now. What a freaking soap opera.  

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    "The Knoxville News Sentinel reports the jury in the federal fraud trial of former Pilot Flying J executives and sales representatives heard a recording of former vice president John "Stick" Freeman saying Haslam was aware of the scheme to deprive trucking customers of the diesel discounts they had negotiated.

    In Freeman's words: "He knew — absolutely."

    This is a recording of "hearsay evidence" not a recording of Jimmy himself. It means absolutely nothing in a court of law unless witnesses in Jimmy's trial attest that he "knew everything". You'd think one or more who knew would have turned on him in a plea bargain by now.

  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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    I would give away all of our draft picks if we could get a new owner.

  • "The Knoxville News Sentinel reports the jury in the federal fraud trial of former Pilot Flying J executives and sales representatives heard a recording of former vice president John "Stick" Freeman saying Haslam was aware of the scheme to deprive trucking customers of the diesel discounts they had negotiated.

    In Freeman's words: "He knew — absolutely."

    This is a recording of "hearsay evidence" not a recording of Jimmy himself. It means absolutely nothing in a court of law unless witnesses in Jimmy's trial attest that he "knew everything". You'd think one or more who knew would have turned on him in a plea bargain by now.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    "The Knoxville News Sentinel reports the jury in the federal fraud trial of former Pilot Flying J executives and sales representatives heard a recording of former vice president John "Stick" Freeman saying Haslam was aware of the scheme to deprive trucking customers of the diesel discounts they had negotiated.

    In Freeman's words: "He knew — absolutely."

    This is a recording of "hearsay evidence" not a recording of Jimmy himself. It means absolutely nothing in a court of law unless witnesses in Jimmy's trial attest that he "knew everything". You'd think one or more who knew would have turned on him in a plea bargain by now.

    If Haslam was Italian guy from Brooklyn he would already had major RICO charges slapped against him.

  • "The Knoxville News Sentinel reports the jury in the federal fraud trial of former Pilot Flying J executives and sales representatives heard a recording of former vice president John "Stick" Freeman saying Haslam was aware of the scheme to deprive trucking customers of the diesel discounts they had negotiated.

    In Freeman's words: "He knew — absolutely."

    This is a recording of "hearsay evidence" not a recording of Jimmy himself. It means absolutely nothing in a court of law unless witnesses in Jimmy's trial attest that he "knew everything". You'd think one or more who knew would have turned on him in a plea bargain by now.

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    "The Knoxville News Sentinel reports the jury in the federal fraud trial of former Pilot Flying J executives and sales representatives heard a recording of former vice president John "Stick" Freeman saying Haslam was aware of the scheme to deprive trucking customers of the diesel discounts they had negotiated.

    In Freeman's words: "He knew — absolutely."

    This is a recording of "hearsay evidence" not a recording of Jimmy himself. It means absolutely nothing in a court of law unless witnesses in Jimmy's trial attest that he "knew everything". You'd think one or more who knew would have turned on him in a plea bargain by now.

    Jury got to hear it, it means something. Did you see where they wanted to rip off the firm run by the Gambino family too? Brilliant!

  • @texasag1969 said:

    "The Knoxville News Sentinel reports the jury in the federal fraud trial of former Pilot Flying J executives and sales representatives heard a recording of former vice president John "Stick" Freeman saying Haslam was aware of the scheme to deprive trucking customers of the diesel discounts they had negotiated.

    In Freeman's words: "He knew — absolutely."

    This is a recording of "hearsay evidence" not a recording of Jimmy himself. It means absolutely nothing in a court of law unless witnesses in Jimmy's trial attest that he "knew everything". You'd think one or more who knew would have turned on him in a plea bargain by now.

    If Haslam was Italian guy from Brooklyn he would already had major RICO charges slapped against him.

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    If Haslam was Italian guy from Brooklyn he would already had major RICO charges slapped against him.

    May happen yet. He was messing with the Gambino's too

  • @texasag1969 said:

    "The Knoxville News Sentinel reports the jury in the federal fraud trial of former Pilot Flying J executives and sales representatives heard a recording of former vice president John "Stick" Freeman saying Haslam was aware of the scheme to deprive trucking customers of the diesel discounts they had negotiated.

    In Freeman's words: "He knew — absolutely."

    This is a recording of "hearsay evidence" not a recording of Jimmy himself. It means absolutely nothing in a court of law unless witnesses in Jimmy's trial attest that he "knew everything". You'd think one or more who knew would have turned on him in a plea bargain by now.

    Jury got to hear it, it means something. Did you see where they wanted to rip off the firm run by the Gambino family too? Brilliant!

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Jury got to hear it, it means something. Did you see where they wanted to rip off the firm run by the Gambino family too? Brilliant!

    For Jimmy's sake I hope it was a fish company or else he sleeps with 'em.😉

  • @dutch-oven said:

    If Haslam was Italian guy from Brooklyn he would already had major RICO charges slapped against him.

    May happen yet. He was messing with the Gambino's too

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @flyingfooldoug said:

    May happen yet. He was messing with the Gambino's too

    Dumb hillbilly was bringing a knife to a gunfight.

    As someone whose family one way or another has been involved in trucking since the 40s, when my grandfather started his trucking business, Haslam can rot in a jail cell. 

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    May happen yet. He was messing with the Gambino's too

    Dumb hillbilly was bringing a knife to a gunfight.

    As someone whose family one way or another has been involved in trucking since the 40s, when my grandfather started his trucking business, Haslam can rot in a jail cell. 

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by flyingfooldoug
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Dumb hillbilly was bringing a knife to a gunfight.

    As someone whose family one way or another has been involved in trucking since the 40s, when my grandfather started his trucking business, Haslam can rot in a jail cell. 

    I've just been reading more on this. Try this number. $450,000a month is what they were defrauding truckers out of on their fuel.  And emails were sent from execs to Jimmy StupidShmuckinghillbilly informing him.  If he loves the analytics he set in place for the Browns, I wonder what he'll think of the analprobing he can get in the federal lockup.BBC anyone? 

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Jury got to hear it, it means something. Did you see where they wanted to rip off the firm run by the Gambino family too? Brilliant!

    For Jimmy's sake I hope it was a fish company or else he sleeps with 'em.😉

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    For Jimmy's sake I hope it was a fish company or else he sleeps with 'em.😉

    Nope....trucking