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Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam knew about sales scheme: former Pilot exec

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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    When the FBI opens an investigation into you or your company, you are in a world of Sheet.

    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on
    #46

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    When the FBI opens an investigation into you or your company, you are in a world of Sheet.

    Um, ah...yeah................. they sure burned Hillary, didn't they?

    The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
    😂
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I've just been reading more on this. Try this number. $450,000a month is what they were defrauding truckers out of on their fuel.  And emails were sent from execs to Jimmy StupidShmuckinghillbilly informing him.  If he loves the analytics he set in place for the Browns, I wonder what he'll think of the analprobing he can get in the federal lockup.BBC anyone? 

    They put people like Haslam in a Federal Prison Camp.  He would never go to a maximum security prison.  

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #47

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    They put people like Haslam in a Federal Prison Camp.  He would never go to a maximum security prison.  

    I don't really care where they put him as long as he can't ruin the team any longer

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    Those on tril have been saying that from the beginning, yet he  hasn't been indicted.

    Why is that?  I'll tell you why.  It's not about what you think.  It's about what you can prove.

    I am not saying he didn't know.  I just find it pretty strong in Haslams favor that the DA hasn't brought charges, no matter how thin.  You have to have some proof, and proof isn't a bunch of people who plead guilty to the fraud saying that he had to know.  You have to have more than that.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #48

    @ballpeen said:

    Those on tril have been saying that from the beginning, yet he  hasn't been indicted.

    Why is that?  I'll tell you why.  It's not about what you think.  It's about what you can prove.

    I am not saying he didn't know.  I just find it pretty strong in Haslams favor that the DA hasn't brought charges, no matter how thin.  You have to have some proof, and proof isn't a bunch of people who plead guilty to the fraud saying that he had to know.  You have to have more than that.

    And Ballpeen should know.   Russ is a retired Federal Hearing officer.  (Is that right, Russ?)

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @nickers said:

    That won't happen .. Dee Haslam is our new owner.. Let that sink a minute.. An Emo broad who went "Nuclear".. Now owns our team.. My worst fear just became a reality...

    Pretty sure the last (and only?) woman to own an NFL franchise won a SB.

    Just sayin'...

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #49

    @tour2ma said:

    Pretty sure the last (and only?) woman to own an NFL franchise won a SB.

    Just sayin'...

    That woman had a bonafide HC in Dickey Vermiel and potential HOF QB Kurt Warner..Dee has Sheet...

    Just sayin'..

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • OrionO Orion wrote on
    #50

    ballpeen is probably right.  Jimmuh seems like he'll skate.  

    HaSlammer   -  for a name if he goes up the river.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
  • nickersN nickers

    @tour2ma said:

    Pretty sure the last (and only?) woman to own an NFL franchise won a SB.

    Just sayin'...

    That woman had a bonafide HC in Dickey Vermiel and potential HOF QB Kurt Warner..Dee has Sheet...

    Just sayin'..

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #51

    @nickers said:

    That woman had a bonafide HC in Dickey Vermiel and potential HOF QB Kurt Warner..Dee has Sheet...

    Just sayin'..

    That woman hired Vermiel and Kurt... she did not inherit them...

    Just sayin'...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
    nickersN 1 Reply
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #52

    Pretty sure....

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @jrb12711 said:

    The simple truth is that while you're responsible for a company you lead, your hands as a CEO aren't in every cookie jar. 

    While true this was a company wide program with major implications for the bottom line meaning costs projections were done. While I grant you that upside surprises garner less scrutiny than shortfalls, the less-than-expected cost of this program would be apparent to any engaged CEO.

    If Jimmah dis not know, then it was because he was he either did not want to know or simply was curious enough.

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #53

    @tour2ma said:

    While true this was a company wide program with major implications for the bottom line meaning costs projections were done. While I grant you that upside surprises garner less scrutiny than shortfalls, the less-than-expected cost of this program would be apparent to any engaged CEO.

    If Jimmah dis not know, then it was because he was he either did not want to know or simply was curious enough.

    And either way does not say too much about his business savvy. He inherited his money from the family and now he thinks all those dollar bills turned into brain cells. He believes in magic too, hence numerology. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @nickers said:

    That woman had a bonafide HC in Dickey Vermiel and potential HOF QB Kurt Warner..Dee has Sheet...

    Just sayin'..

    That woman hired Vermiel and Kurt... she did not inherit them...

    Just sayin'...

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #54

    @tour2ma said:

    That woman hired Vermiel and Kurt... she did not inherit them...

    Just sayin'...

    I'm very sure her GM was responsible for guiding her...what has our GM done.. "WAIT".. we don't have one,, We have two harvard lawyers running the show...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #55

    Owners generally get very involved in HC hirings... I threw Kurt in just for grins.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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