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  • Maybe next year when he's back to 100% garrett can make me forget all about 17 sack joey

    NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    Maybe next year when he's back to 100% garrett can make me forget all about 17 sack joey

    Have you seen Ingram? The Chargers have the best defensive end couple in the entire league. One feeds the other. 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Maybe next year when he's back to 100% garrett can make me forget all about 17 sack joey

    Have you seen Ingram? The Chargers have the best defensive end couple in the entire league. One feeds the other. 

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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    @nero said:

    Have you seen Ingram? The Chargers have the best defensive end couple in the entire league. One feeds the other. 

    Our 3 blind mice QB's with a Crow will be smothered in front of 35K.. but were packing Flash Gordon 🙂 

  • @nero said:

    Have you seen Ingram? The Chargers have the best defensive end couple in the entire league. One feeds the other. 

    Our 3 blind mice QB's with a Crow will be smothered in front of 35K.. but were packing Flash Gordon 🙂 

    NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    Our 3 blind mice QB's with a Crow will be smothered in front of 35K.. but were packing Flash Gordon 🙂 

    Watching the Chargers annihilate the Cowboys, Gordon is the only hope I have left for that game... 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Maybe next year when he's back to 100% garrett can make me forget all about 17 sack joey

    Have you seen Ingram? The Chargers have the best defensive end couple in the entire league. One feeds the other. 

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @nero said:

    Have you seen Ingram? The Chargers have the best defensive end couple in the entire league. One feeds the other. 

    Yeah those two are sick. But overall that chargers d has prob stopping the run, why they're 4-6. Joey and melvin seem to be solid as Shmuck on the edge. Especially joey i saw him stack tyrone smith straight up, just stonewalled him. It says alot when the dallas has o line feels they have to double a guy in order to move him in the run game

  • Geeezzzus not really that bad at all! Little brother plays in "The Game" Saturday at 12 on FOX.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Geeezzzus not really that bad at all! Little brother plays in "The Game" Saturday at 12 on FOX.

    So anyone watching "The Game"?  And regardless of records or anything else it's a big deal.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    Auburn-Alabama?😁

  • Auburn-Alabama?😁

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Auburn-Alabama?😁

    I had never been to Bryant-Denny. Some buddies are alums so I went down for the homecoming game against Arkansas. Game day in the south, especially Tuscaloosa, was a different animal all together.

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    The Chargers looked like they could crush us on Thanksgiving.  And they can......if they don't fall asleep like last year...

  • GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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    Fr better than Zumba boy.

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
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    Obviously, Ingram and Bosa are quite good. But - it's a quite reasonable question to ask HOW MUCH better they are than Ogbah and Garrett. It should shock nobody that LAC has nobody behind them or next to them.. thanks to their FO being much less competent than ours.

    Overall Cleveland DL is SIGNIFICANTLY better than LAC -- LAC is second-to-last in avg run against (4.9) while we remain #1 (3.1).

    So what exactly is the point here? That Rivers and Allen and the wasted years of Melvin Gordon are better than Coleman? Shocking.

    This isn't hard: Get the #1QB and either a #1 WR or #1 CB this year along with a #2 LB and #2 SS. Get one of the top4 DL and a #1 RB next year.. and Browns blow out the Chargers as well as half the AFC in 2 seasons.

  • Obviously, Ingram and Bosa are quite good. But - it's a quite reasonable question to ask HOW MUCH better they are than Ogbah and Garrett. It should shock nobody that LAC has nobody behind them or next to them.. thanks to their FO being much less competent than ours.

    Overall Cleveland DL is SIGNIFICANTLY better than LAC -- LAC is second-to-last in avg run against (4.9) while we remain #1 (3.1).

    So what exactly is the point here? That Rivers and Allen and the wasted years of Melvin Gordon are better than Coleman? Shocking.

    This isn't hard: Get the #1QB and either a #1 WR or #1 CB this year along with a #2 LB and #2 SS. Get one of the top4 DL and a #1 RB next year.. and Browns blow out the Chargers as well as half the AFC in 2 seasons.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @unsympathetic said:

    Obviously, Ingram and Bosa are quite good. But - it's a quite reasonable question to ask HOW MUCH better they are than Ogbah and Garrett. It should shock nobody that LAC has nobody behind them or next to them.. thanks to their FO being much less competent than ours.

    Overall Cleveland DL is SIGNIFICANTLY better than LAC -- LAC is second-to-last in avg run against (4.9) while we remain #1 (3.1).

    So what exactly is the point here? That Rivers and Allen and the wasted years of Melvin Gordon are better than Coleman? Shocking.

    This isn't hard: Get the #1QB and either a #1 WR or #1 CB this year along with a #2 LB and #2 SS. Get one of the top4 DL and a #1 RB next year.. and Browns blow out the Chargers as well as half the AFC in 2 seasons.

    Their interior lineman are on oar with ours. I would give the edge tho to the browns. The DE's thi there is no comparison. They're run weakness is more on the lb'ing corp than the d line. Their DT's arent block eaters like danny and meder are, so they require better lb'ing play. Bosa and ingram are solid edge defenders. Only nassib right now is as goid a run defender as they are

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
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    Ogbah is better than both of their DE's against the run and isn't elite but is good and was getting more consistent against the pass. Shelton and Coley are both better.. even with Meder [the previous starter] out for the season.  Garrett is a push. Nassib is far,far better than their backups.

    We actually lost our #1 LB and #2 DT for the season and performance didn't drop when the backups stepped in -- this is in fact the entire damn point.. our backup LB who replaced Collins was the #2 performer on the entire team last game.

    McCourty isn't far behind PB level and Taylor/BBC are average-to-great.  have you people forgotten already the Trail of Tearful Pass Interference Penalties that was buster skrine and leon mcfadden and bademosi and dmitri patterson and every incompetent twatwaffle who trotted out there across from haden?

  • Ogbah is better than both of their DE's against the run and isn't elite but is good and was getting more consistent against the pass. Shelton and Coley are both better.. even with Meder [the previous starter] out for the season.  Garrett is a push. Nassib is far,far better than their backups.

    We actually lost our #1 LB and #2 DT for the season and performance didn't drop when the backups stepped in -- this is in fact the entire damn point.. our backup LB who replaced Collins was the #2 performer on the entire team last game.

    McCourty isn't far behind PB level and Taylor/BBC are average-to-great.  have you people forgotten already the Trail of Tearful Pass Interference Penalties that was buster skrine and leon mcfadden and bademosi and dmitri patterson and every incompetent twatwaffle who trotted out there across from haden?

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @unsympathetic said:

    Ogbah is better than both of their DE's against the run 

    Im sorry wut? Ogbah is awful against the run. He's been getting seal blocked all season, its been a personal peeve of mone watching one run after another break around his edge all fukking season long. That deficiency on the left edge has been minimized by our lb'ing play but rest assured teams have been targeting him when he's in there. Nassib is head and shoulders above ogbah at this point in edge duscipline, its not even close. 

    And u want to compare ogbah to joey? Joey bosa? The guy who was stacking double teams against the dallas cowboys offensive line just this past thursday on short rest from another dominating performance against the bills? Im all ears on whatever metric u have in mind where igbah can be mentioned in the same paragraph as bosa and ingram. Cause those guys might be the two best DE's in all of football

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Auburn-Alabama?😁

    I had never been to Bryant-Denny. Some buddies are alums so I went down for the homecoming game against Arkansas. Game day in the south, especially Tuscaloosa, was a different animal all together.

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    @logicisforsquares said:

    I had never been to Bryant-Denny. Some buddies are alums so I went down for the homecoming game against Arkansas. Game day in the south, especially Tuscaloosa, was a different animal all together.

    It's sick. Ever seen big 10 fans with "F*** [opponent's name here]" buttons on? In Alabama they take offense to the fact that your team would even show up for the game.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    I had never been to Bryant-Denny. Some buddies are alums so I went down for the homecoming game against Arkansas. Game day in the south, especially Tuscaloosa, was a different animal all together.

    It's sick. Ever seen big 10 fans with "F*** [opponent's name here]" buttons on? In Alabama they take offense to the fact that your team would even show up for the game.

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    It's sick. Ever seen big 10 fans with "F*** [opponent's name here]" buttons on? In Alabama they take offense to the fact that your team would even show up for the game.

    We got to our seats and were commenting on how quiet everyone was being. Young or old they were all glued to their phones. They didn’t have to announce that LSU had beat Auburn on the stadium boards. As soon as they all saw it on their phones, a roar and applause went through the stadium. 

    They take it serious.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by jiggins7919
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    This might sound crazy, but Rivers is actually somewhat difficult to sack at times. He's very slow but he's adept at getting rid of the ball quickly. Gregg will need to check his blitz count because Rivers WILL make you pay if you don't disguise your rushes. For example, I believe Jacksonville leads the league in sacks, but I don't believe they got one on Rivers. That being said, they definitely made him uncomfortable and forced him into bad throws or tossing it away. Myles Garrett will have his chances, and I'm ready to see him take over a game. 

    I obviously don't expect us to win this game, and even though I'm excited about seeing Gordon, I'm not expecting big things from him...yet. But I will say this:  The Chargers are "that team" that has been known to lay the occasional egg and really stink up the Joint. Rivers WILL put the ball in harm's way, and he'll give us chances at making picks. Now, we traditionally haven't MADE those, but no time like the present!  We could very easily get blown out, but I can envision a way they screw it up too. 

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    I had never been to Bryant-Denny. Some buddies are alums so I went down for the homecoming game against Arkansas. Game day in the south, especially Tuscaloosa, was a different animal all together.

    It's sick. Ever seen big 10 fans with "F*** [opponent's name here]" buttons on? In Alabama they take offense to the fact that your team would even show up for the game.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    It's sick. Ever seen big 10 fans with "F*** [opponent's name here]" buttons on? In Alabama they take offense to the fact that your team would even show up for the game.

    Extremely mild compared to Baton Rouge.

  • This might sound crazy, but Rivers is actually somewhat difficult to sack at times. He's very slow but he's adept at getting rid of the ball quickly. Gregg will need to check his blitz count because Rivers WILL make you pay if you don't disguise your rushes. For example, I believe Jacksonville leads the league in sacks, but I don't believe they got one on Rivers. That being said, they definitely made him uncomfortable and forced him into bad throws or tossing it away. Myles Garrett will have his chances, and I'm ready to see him take over a game. 

    I obviously don't expect us to win this game, and even though I'm excited about seeing Gordon, I'm not expecting big things from him...yet. But I will say this:  The Chargers are "that team" that has been known to lay the occasional egg and really stink up the Joint. Rivers WILL put the ball in harm's way, and he'll give us chances at making picks. Now, we traditionally haven't MADE those, but no time like the present!  We could very easily get blown out, but I can envision a way they screw it up too. 

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @jiggins7919 said:

    This might sound crazy, but Rivers is actually somewhat difficult to sack at times. He's very slow but he's adept at getting rid of the ball quickly. Gregg will need to check his blitz count because Rivers WILL make you pay if you don't disguise your rushes. For example, I believe Jacksonville leads the league in sacks, but I don't believe they got one on Rivers. That being said, they definitely made him uncomfortable and forced him into bad throws or tossing it away. Myles Garrett will have his chances, and I'm ready to see him take over a game. 

    I obviously don't expect us to win this game, and even though I'm excited about seeing Gordon, I'm not expecting big things from him...yet. But I will say this:  The Chargers are "that team" that has been known to lay the occasional egg and really stink up the Joint. Rivers WILL put the ball in harm's way, and he'll give us chances at making picks. Now, we traditionally haven't MADE those, but no time like the present!  We could very easily get blown out, but I can envision a way they screw it up too. 

    Earlier in the season i mught have agreed lac might be our huckleberries again. But they're progressing. 

     If they had a better o line they could potentially be SB bound. I think they've had multiple injuries, not sure. But with a better run blocking line for gordon, they'd be sick

  • S SD_Tom wrote on last edited by
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    Chargers are  playing great football. I think they're pretty healthy for once. 

    Offense is clicking,  defense is tough. Bosa and Ingram will get to Kizer plenty 

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    Kizers head gon hurt at halftime again