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  • So even if he does the same next year?  I doubt that.

  • Hire a new FO guy and saddle him with Hue Jackson who is the polar opposite of his own philosophies on so many levels. Only Jimmy. The sleeping giant of Browns football unleashed alright.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Better for who?  Him maybe, not for us.  If he had left instead of sabotaging the deal, then WE or, i.e. the Browns, would have been left making an absolute piss poor deal.  Tis a far far better thing that he had done than he had ever done before.

    Better for him. Why should he give a phuck about you? or Gunga Din?

    @tour2ma said:

    Better for him. Why should he give a phuck about you? or Gunga Din?

    Us?   Do I need to remind you who "Us" is? Who "We" are. 

    Do you think you are the only Browns fan on the planet? 

  • Hire a new FO guy and saddle him with Hue Jackson who is the polar opposite of his own philosophies on so many levels. Only Jimmy. The sleeping giant of Browns football unleashed alright.

    @hempman said:

    Hire a new FO guy and saddle him with Hue Jackson who is the polar opposite of his own philosophies on so many levels. Only Jimmy. The sleeping giant of Browns football unleashed alright.

    What evidence or insight do YOU have that Jackson has the polar opposite philosophy than John Dorsey.

    Please.  Enlighten us with all your inner knowledge of the details.  (for I have heard the exact opposite...that Dorsey and Jackson are far more compatible than he ever was with Sashi.)

  • @wargograw said:

    Yeah. You, the last year and a half. 

    Man, just because you were wrong about the Browns sticking with their awesome Process for the long haul, you don't have to be such a meanie.... 

    @d-bone said:

    Man, just because you were wrong about the Browns sticking with their awesome Process for the long haul, you don't have to be such a meanie.... 

    Where did I ever say we were going to stick with it? Tour has said that, not me. In fact my great fear was fan pressure would be so great Jimmy would pull the plug and I argued with everyone here say after day week after week in hopes they’d calm down and it wouldn’t happen. 

    So wrong again bucko. 

  • @d-bone said:

    Man, just because you were wrong about the Browns sticking with their awesome Process for the long haul, you don't have to be such a meanie.... 

    Where did I ever say we were going to stick with it? Tour has said that, not me. In fact my great fear was fan pressure would be so great Jimmy would pull the plug and I argued with everyone here say after day week after week in hopes they’d calm down and it wouldn’t happen. 

    So wrong again bucko. 

    @wargograw said:

    Where did I ever say we were going to stick with it? Tour has said that, not me. In fact my great fear was fan pressure would be so great Jimmy would pull the plug and I argued with everyone here say after day week after week in hopes they’d calm down and it wouldn’t happen. 

    So wrong again bucko. 

    war's narrative changes more frequently than The Process stacks up losses. 

  • @d-bone said:

    Man, just because you were wrong about the Browns sticking with their awesome Process for the long haul, you don't have to be such a meanie.... 

    Where did I ever say we were going to stick with it? Tour has said that, not me. In fact my great fear was fan pressure would be so great Jimmy would pull the plug and I argued with everyone here say after day week after week in hopes they’d calm down and it wouldn’t happen. 

    So wrong again bucko. 

    @wargograw said:

    Where did I ever say we were going to stick with it? Tour has said that, not me. In fact my great fear was fan pressure would be so great Jimmy would pull the plug and I argued with everyone here say after day week after week in hopes they’d calm down and it wouldn’t happen. 

    So wrong again bucko. 

    will you stop with all this 'fan pressure' nonsense.  There is no evidence of any kind anywhere that's a factor in jimmy's decisions....

    our fans are *great*.  Most of them still support the team, despite unprecedented losing.  the fans are the least of our problems. 

  • @wargograw said:

    Where did I ever say we were going to stick with it? Tour has said that, not me. In fact my great fear was fan pressure would be so great Jimmy would pull the plug and I argued with everyone here say after day week after week in hopes they’d calm down and it wouldn’t happen. 

    So wrong again bucko. 

    will you stop with all this 'fan pressure' nonsense.  There is no evidence of any kind anywhere that's a factor in jimmy's decisions....

    our fans are *great*.  Most of them still support the team, despite unprecedented losing.  the fans are the least of our problems. 

    @tacosman said:

    will you stop with all this 'fan pressure' nonsense.  There is no evidence of any kind anywhere that's a factor in jimmy's decisions....

    our fans are *great*.  Most of them still support the team, despite unprecedented losing.  the fans are the least of our problems. 

    Haven't you heard? The entire Browns organization is on TBB reading all of our posts and basing every decision they make on them.....

    ..... Hi Jimmy! Hi Dee! I hope you both have a Merry Christmas ❤ xoxo

  • @tacosman said:

    will you stop with all this 'fan pressure' nonsense.  There is no evidence of any kind anywhere that's a factor in jimmy's decisions....

    our fans are *great*.  Most of them still support the team, despite unprecedented losing.  the fans are the least of our problems. 

    Haven't you heard? The entire Browns organization is on TBB reading all of our posts and basing every decision they make on them.....

    ..... Hi Jimmy! Hi Dee! I hope you both have a Merry Christmas ❤ xoxo

    @d-bone said:

    Haven't you heard? The entire Browns organization is on TBB reading all of our posts and basing every decision they make on them.....

    ..... Hi Jimmy! Hi Dee! I hope you both have a Merry Christmas ❤ xoxo

    Justin Gilbert is still trying to reach the million Likes so he can become an average DB.

  • @d-bone said:

    Haven't you heard? The entire Browns organization is on TBB reading all of our posts and basing every decision they make on them.....

    ..... Hi Jimmy! Hi Dee! I hope you both have a Merry Christmas ❤ xoxo

    Justin Gilbert is still trying to reach the million Likes so he can become an average DB.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Justin Gilbert is still trying to reach the million Likes so he can become an average DB.

    The little fella never did have a fair chance..... Won't somebody please think of the children!!! 

  • It'll be interesting to see lineup/roster changes the next four weeks ... should tell us who Sashi was personally invested in but Hue didn't want and vice versa.

    Z

  • It'll be interesting to see lineup/roster changes the next four weeks ... should tell us who Sashi was personally invested in but Hue didn't want and vice versa.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    It'll be interesting to see lineup/roster changes the next four weeks ... should tell us who Sashi was personally invested in but Hue didn't want and vice versa.

    Z

    Could you imagine that? 

    The Browns could be the first NFL team playing a game without a quaterback!

  • It'll be interesting to see lineup/roster changes the next four weeks ... should tell us who Sashi was personally invested in but Hue didn't want and vice versa.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    It'll be interesting to see lineup/roster changes the next four weeks ... should tell us who Sashi was personally invested in but Hue didn't want and vice versa.

    Z

    Already started.   Britt...AUFED!!

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Dorsey said that he looks forward to working with Hue. Its a done deal. The Browns would not let him make that statement if they have plans to send Hue packing.

    Why I dont like it is that everything is riding on 2018. Hue has to show marked improvement or its another season wasted and Daorsey will bring his own guy in which is what he should do now.

    They say Hue is an old school style coach, and Dorsey is old school in that he spends tons of time in the film room studying players. It may work but Hue is no doubt on thin ice. 

  • Zombo said:

    It'll be interesting to see lineup/roster changes the next four weeks ... should tell us who Sashi was personally invested in but Hue didn't want and vice versa.

    Z

    Already started.   Britt...AUFED!!

    @the-gipper said:

    Already started.   Britt...AUFED!!

    There ya go ... I knew Hue hated that fucker but Sashi wanted to stubbornly stand behind the money he spent on him.

    Anlytics liked his career path ... but Kenny just wanted to get paid.

    Z

  • @the-gipper said:

    Already started.   Britt...AUFED!!

    There ya go ... I knew Hue hated that fucker but Sashi wanted to stubbornly stand behind the money he spent on him.

    Anlytics liked his career path ... but Kenny just wanted to get paid.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    There ya go ... I knew Hue hated that Shmucker but Sashi wanted to stubbornly stand behind the money he spent on him.

    Anlytics liked his career path ... but Kenny just wanted to get paid.

    Z

    Dwayne Bowe 2.0

  • @stillmotion said:

    Haslam said absolutely Hue Jackson will be back in 2018 no matter what happens in final four games this season and Haslam added we plan on Hue being the coach for a long time ter.com)

    Via nate ulrichAlso, Jackson Depo and Dorsey all report to ownership separately

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Andrew_Gribble/status/939171612393385984?ref_src=twsrc^twitterkit

    Haslam's idea of a "long time" is around 8 games of next season... Don't like the separate reporting part...  

    @the-gipper said:

    What evidence or insight do YOU have that Jackson has the polar opposite philosophy than John Dorsey.

    Please.  Enlighten us with all your inner knowledge of the details.  (for I have heard the exact opposite...that Dorsey and Jackson are far more compatible than he ever was with Sashi.)

    Yup, Gip. Dorsey was obviously asked his opinion of Jackson. He wouldn't have taken the job (or requested Hue get fired as a condition) to join the Browns, if he thought they couldn't work together. 

  • After watching the Haslam/Dorsey interview I got the impression that Jimmy did not believe enough talent was being brought into the organization.  I don't think he took issue with Sashi's strategy of accumulating picks but wanted someone on the room that could evaluate talent.  If Jimmy doesn't feel that the talent level is there I don't think he's going to blame the coach.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Already started.   Britt...AUFED!!

    There ya go ... I knew Hue hated that fucker but Sashi wanted to stubbornly stand behind the money he spent on him.

    Anlytics liked his career path ... but Kenny just wanted to get paid.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    There ya go ... I knew Hue hated that Shmucker but Sashi wanted to stubbornly stand behind the money he spent on him.

    Anlytics liked his career path ... but Kenny just wanted to get paid.

    Z

    There was nothing that analytics liked about Britt's career path.  An 8th or whatever year wide reciever who finally managed to catch significant over 50% over his targets and had decentcounting stats the year before(but in his whole career before that been underwhelming given his targets and appearances) is not an analytical favorite.  the exaa ct opposite actually.

    Analytics are NOT to blame for some of the bad picks and the britt signing.  Sashi is to blame for those.  But we need to use data driven methodology going forward with scouting....to abandon data driven approach(looking at the right data) would be a huge mistake.  Some would say we need to actually start doing it rather than talking about it.