Sashi fired
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Besides Human Nature, in that you can't put 5 people in a room and get them to agree on anything, I don't see why it's such a major problem to get the general manager and the coaching staff at least on the same page?
WSS
Besides Human Nature, in that you can't put 5 people in a room and get them to agree on anything, I don't see why it's such a major problem to get the general manager and the coaching staff at least on the same page?
WSS
Only problem Steve is who will have the major input in the 2018 draft? I don't trust Hue's QB acumen at all, (were RG II and Kessler really his idea) ? It's damn critical to get it right for once. OR, OTOH- Hue wanted Wentz and Watson, and the anal-itics guys crammed Kizer down his throat?
Hue is certainly a "nice guy" players coach, but we've documented his gameday shortcomings ad nauseum.
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The aj mccarron deal was a desperation move on hues part cause he was saddled in the offseason with ossweiler, kessler, hogan and kizer. Think about that. Peyton manning wouldnt even contemplate having anything to do with cleveland with "that" qb situation.
Hue wants mccarron as someone to play fir the team while the #1 pick next year studies under him.
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Jimmy Haslem is about to find out why the raiders fired Hue Jackson, Should be a pretty fun time. Also It was me who called out sashi brown being a fall guy for hue when he was hired. Expect an OC in the offseason and a short leash for Hue Jackson in 2018 IF he makes it to the season that is. Cant really trust anything Jimmy is saying anyway. We'll know how the analytics have been affected at the end of season if/when more people are released and further at the draft and Free Agency period through the various data sets that come from it. I'm holding out hope that they fire Hue at the end of season if we go 0-16 which for the betterment of the team I've been hoping for since the season opener. Thanks for the Future Sashi
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The aj mccarron deal was a desperation move on hues part cause he was saddled in the offseason with ossweiler, kessler, hogan and kizer. Think about that. Peyton manning wouldnt even contemplate having anything to do with cleveland with "that" qb situation.
Hue wants mccarron as someone to play fir the team while the #1 pick next year studies under him.
The aj mccarron deal was a desperation move on hues part cause he was saddled in the offseason with ossweiler, kessler, hogan and kizer. Think about that. Peyton Manning wouldn't even contemplate having anything to do with Cleveland with "that" qb situation.
Hue wants mccarron as someone to play fir the team while the #1 pick next year studies under him.
I suppose that's OK- but AJ is a RFA next year- and the Bengals can tender him, they certainly won't just let him walk away for nothing. If they put a second round tender on him- no thanks. Right now that would mean the Browns would have to give up the #33 pick for him. Too much, IMHO. (You have to give up your pick- I'd have no problems giving them the second rounder we have from the Eagles, which is going to be at the bottom of the second round. )
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I give up with Haslam, this organisation is going nowhere.
So Hue is a great coach and it’s the players that are all bad. Got it.
I give up with Haslam, this organisation is going nowhere.
So Hue is a great coach and it’s the players that are all bad. Got it.
Couldn't agree more. There is enough talent on this team to be a 5- 11 6 - 10 club. Hue blows. Haslam Blows. What the hell is a new exec going to do in 1 year?
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The aj mccarron deal was a desperation move on hues part cause he was saddled in the offseason with ossweiler, kessler, hogan and kizer. Think about that. Peyton Manning wouldn't even contemplate having anything to do with Cleveland with "that" qb situation.
Hue wants mccarron as someone to play fir the team while the #1 pick next year studies under him.
I suppose that's OK- but AJ is a RFA next year- and the Bengals can tender him, they certainly won't just let him walk away for nothing. If they put a second round tender on him- no thanks. Right now that would mean the Browns would have to give up the #33 pick for him. Too much, IMHO. (You have to give up your pick- I'd have no problems giving them the second rounder we have from the Eagles, which is going to be at the bottom of the second round. )
I suppose that's OK- but AJ is a RFA next year- and the Bengals can tender him, they certainly won't just let him walk away for nothing. If they put a second round tender on him- no thanks. Right now that would mean the Browns would have to give up the #33 pick for him. Too much, IMHO. (You have to give up your pick- I'd have no problems giving them the second rounder we have from the Eagles, which is going to be at the bottom of the second round. )
Yeah i agree thats too much.
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I give up with Haslam, this organisation is going nowhere.
So Hue is a great coach and it’s the players that are all bad. Got it.
Couldn't agree more. There is enough talent on this team to be a 5- 11 6 - 10 club. Hue blows. Haslam Blows. What the hell is a new exec going to do in 1 year?
Couldn't agree more. There is enough talent on this team to be a 5- 11 6 - 10 club.
How do win 5 games in the nfl with a qb that routinely shts the bed in the endzone and wr's that cant catch? Ur here every week bemoaning our lack of talent at multiple positions offense and defense, yet now claim this collection of camp trade me downs are good for 5-6 games? Ummm no, they're not.
How does this brand new claim of urs gel with ur very recent assertion that our defense is worse than last years? Where are u pulling these 5-6 wins from if everything across the board is worse than last year?
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I give up with Haslam, this organisation is going nowhere.
So Hue is a great coach and it’s the players that are all bad. Got it.
Couldn't agree more. There is enough talent on this team to be a 5- 11 6 - 10 club. Hue blows. Haslam Blows. What the hell is a new exec going to do in 1 year?
Couldn't agree more. There is enough talent on this team to be a 5- 11 6 - 10 club. Hue blows. Haslam Blows. What the hell is a new exec going to do in 1 year?
I would sincerely hope Tom- at least get us a Pro Bowl level QB. If Gordon can stay out of trouble, the Browns have offensive talent similar to the Texans- and we saw what they did when Watson started throwing the rock. Derek Anderson was a one season fluke. Since the 50s it's been Otto and Bernie- and that's about it.
Question is just how patient is Jimmy going to be with this "X" version of a rebuild? There is some talent in place- and I agree, Hue doesn't know how to use it.
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Couldn't agree more. There is enough talent on this team to be a 5- 11 6 - 10 club.
How do win 5 games in the nfl with a qb that routinely shts the bed in the endzone and wr's that cant catch? Ur here every week bemoaning our lack of talent at multiple positions offense and defense, yet now claim this collection of camp trade me downs are good for 5-6 games? Ummm no, they're not.
How does this brand new claim of urs gel with ur very recent assertion that our defense is worse than last years? Where are u pulling these 5-6 wins from if everything across the board is worse than last year?
How do win 5 games in the nfl with a qb that routinely shts the bed in the endzone and wr's that cant catch?
How does this brand new claim of urs gel with ur very recent assertion that our defense is worse than last years? Where are u pulling these 5-6 wins from if everything across the board is worse than last year?
MHO is I think he's wrong about the defense- but spell Red Zone follies K-I-Z-E-R.
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Good.
I do wish they would can Hue, or at the very least, get him an OC because he is awful.DePodesta needs to go to next...
These analytic douches set us up with draft picks, no doubt about it.
But we can't keep shooting ourselves in the foot with these stupid draft blunders.
Hire a GM who can draft well,
Get this fixed because it is a dumpster fire
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Does anyone think the term "Dumpster Fire" has about been played out?
How about being a bit more creative:
We have here a Cacophony of Clowns running this team.
This place is one big Fuyuckupalooza
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"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
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After watching hue's latest press conference I don't think I'm going to be following this team until he is fired. Take care everyone and cya later hopefully soon lol.
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How stupid do you have to be to announce you're keeping your coach... your crappy coach...?
Why couldnt Haslam just say he's firing Sashi and reevaluating Hue at the end of the year? He constantly puts his foot in his mouth when he makes these moves... Let the new guy pick the coach. If he doesnt want Hue, then get somebody new. It shouldn't be ths owner's decision...
Pretty sure Haslam is just cheap and doesnt want to pay Hue for 2 years after firing him...
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Does anyone think the term "Dumpster Fire" has about been played out?
How about being a bit more creative:
We have here a Cacophony of Clowns running this team.
This place is one big Fuyuckupalooza
Does anyone think the term "Dumpster Fire" has about been played out?
How about being a bit more creative:
We have here a Cacophony of Clowns running this team.
This place is one big Fuyuckupalooza
In case you forgot Gip...
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If you sack the GM but GAUARANTEE the HC his job, you’re telling all the players here they should never have been on this roster.
The Browns today went back five years. Again.
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The aj mccarron deal was a desperation move on hues part cause he was saddled in the offseason with ossweiler, kessler, hogan and kizer. Think about that. Peyton Manning wouldn't even contemplate having anything to do with Cleveland with "that" qb situation.
Hue wants mccarron as someone to play fir the team while the #1 pick next year studies under him.
I suppose that's OK- but AJ is a RFA next year- and the Bengals can tender him, they certainly won't just let him walk away for nothing. If they put a second round tender on him- no thanks. Right now that would mean the Browns would have to give up the #33 pick for him. Too much, IMHO. (You have to give up your pick- I'd have no problems giving them the second rounder we have from the Eagles, which is going to be at the bottom of the second round. )
I suppose that's OK- but AJ is a RFA next year- and the Bengals can tender him, they certainly won't just let him walk away for nothing. If they put a second round tender on him- no thanks. Right now that would mean the Browns would have to give up the #33 pick for him. Too much, IMHO. (You have to give up your pick- I'd have no problems giving them the second rounder we have from the Eagles, which is going to be at the bottom of the second round. )
They are absolutely going to do this. Haslam has said Hue stays and he gets his QB in McCarron. You can bank on this.
A 2nd rounder for a previously 5th rounder that can’t beat out Andy Dalton
Shmuck Haslam and Shmuck Hue Jackson.
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I suppose that's OK- but AJ is a RFA next year- and the Bengals can tender him, they certainly won't just let him walk away for nothing. If they put a second round tender on him- no thanks. Right now that would mean the Browns would have to give up the #33 pick for him. Too much, IMHO. (You have to give up your pick- I'd have no problems giving them the second rounder we have from the Eagles, which is going to be at the bottom of the second round. )
They are absolutely going to do this. Haslam has said Hue stays and he gets his QB in McCarron. You can bank on this.
A 2nd rounder for a previously 5th rounder that can’t beat out Andy Dalton
Shmuck Haslam and Shmuck Hue Jackson.
They are absolutely going to do this. Haslam has said Hue stays and he gets his QB in McCarron. You can bank on this.
A 2nd rounder for a previously 5th rounder that can’t beat out Andy Dalton
Shmuck Haslam and Shmuck Hue Jackson.
Jimmy is giving Hue enough rope to hang himself...
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